[U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread Robert Frailey

Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power supply.
They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year i've 
fixed 9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power supply.
I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf 10v, 
i put in a 470uf at 25v.
Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side job in 
the future, everyone will have a couple.


Robert 


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Re: [U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread Charlie Noah

Hi Robert,

Are you talking about LCD monitors or LCD/plasma TVs?

Charlie

On 05-07-2013 4:05 PM, Robert Frailey wrote:

Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power 
supply.
They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year 
i've fixed 9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power 
supply.
I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf 
10v, i put in a 470uf at 25v.
Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side 
job in the future, everyone will have a couple.


Robert
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Re: [U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread Bob Rasmussen
Were these capacitors visibly bulging on top? The story goes that a few 
years ago, a cap provider in China got their mix wrong for the dielectric, 
and tens of thousands (maybe more) of these caps got put in all kinds of 
devices. They didn't fail immediately, but a well after the warranty had 
run out.


On Tue, 7 May 2013, Robert Frailey wrote:


Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power supply.
They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year i've fixed 
9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power supply.
I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf 10v, i 
put in a 470uf at 25v.
Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side job in 
the future, everyone will have a couple.


Robert 
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Re: [U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread Robert Frailey

LCD
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Hi Robert,

Are you talking about LCD monitors or LCD/plasma TVs?

Charlie

On 05-07-2013 4:05 PM, Robert Frailey wrote:

Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power 
supply.
They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year 
i've fixed 9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power 
supply.
I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf 
10v, i put in a 470uf at 25v.
Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side 
job in the future, everyone will have a couple.


Robert
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Re: [U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread Robert Frailey
sounds about right, most caps the cover was shrinking due to overheating, 
the one today was a 1000uf ar 10 volts, the top wrap was sightly pulling 
away.
The screen had not totally failed but had a 60hrz ripple running to to 
bottom. most of the caps looked good but I changed all the output, isolated 
side to be safe.

Screen looks great now
Robert
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Subject: Re: [U2] FYI off topic


Were these capacitors visibly bulging on top? The story goes that a few 
years ago, a cap provider in China got their mix wrong for the dielectric, 
and tens of thousands (maybe more) of these caps got put in all kinds of 
devices. They didn't fail immediately, but a well after the warranty had 
run out.


On Tue, 7 May 2013, Robert Frailey wrote:


Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power 
supply.
They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year i've 
fixed 9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power supply.
I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf 
10v, i put in a 470uf at 25v.
Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side job 
in the future, everyone will have a couple.


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Re: [U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread George Gallen
Better be careful, the division of stopping people from fixing things will be 
after you!

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sounds about right, most caps the cover was shrinking due to overheating, 
the one today was a 1000uf ar 10 volts, the top wrap was sightly pulling 
away.
The screen had not totally failed but had a 60hrz ripple running to to 
bottom. most of the caps looked good but I changed all the output, isolated 
side to be safe.
Screen looks great now
Robert
- Original Message - 
From: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] FYI off topic


 Were these capacitors visibly bulging on top? The story goes that a few 
 years ago, a cap provider in China got their mix wrong for the dielectric, 
 and tens of thousands (maybe more) of these caps got put in all kinds of 
 devices. They didn't fail immediately, but a well after the warranty had 
 run out.

 On Tue, 7 May 2013, Robert Frailey wrote:

 Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
 I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power 
 supply.
 They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year i've 
 fixed 9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power supply.
 I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf 
 10v, i put in a 470uf at 25v.
 Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side job 
 in the future, everyone will have a couple.

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   voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time)
 fax: (US) 503-624-0760
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Re: [U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread Robert Frailey
If everyone learned how to fix something, and did it a couple days every 
week. Maybe we wouldn't throw so much away.
Fixing things is how I relax, I hate computers after work. I won't throw 
something away if it still has value and I can fix it.

Rob
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Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:36 PM
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Better be careful, the division of stopping people from fixing things will 
be after you!


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey

Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] FYI off topic

sounds about right, most caps the cover was shrinking due to overheating,
the one today was a 1000uf ar 10 volts, the top wrap was sightly pulling
away.
The screen had not totally failed but had a 60hrz ripple running to to
bottom. most of the caps looked good but I changed all the output, 
isolated

side to be safe.
Screen looks great now
Robert
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From: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com

To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] FYI off topic



Were these capacitors visibly bulging on top? The story goes that a few
years ago, a cap provider in China got their mix wrong for the 
dielectric,

and tens of thousands (maybe more) of these caps got put in all kinds of
devices. They didn't fail immediately, but a well after the warranty had
run out.

On Tue, 7 May 2013, Robert Frailey wrote:


Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power
supply.
They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year i've
fixed 9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power supply.
I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf
10v, i put in a 470uf at 25v.
Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side job
in the future, everyone will have a couple.

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Re: [U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread Bob Rasmussen
I know some people who fix a stiff drink after work. That relaxes them as 
well (or better).


On Tue, 7 May 2013, Robert Frailey wrote:

If everyone learned how to fix something, and did it a couple days every 
week. Maybe we wouldn't throw so much away.
Fixing things is how I relax, I hate computers after work. I won't throw 
something away if it still has value and I can fix it.

Rob
- Original Message - From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] FYI off topic


Better be careful, the division of stopping people from fixing things will 
be after you!


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey

Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 5:34 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] FYI off topic

sounds about right, most caps the cover was shrinking due to overheating,
the one today was a 1000uf ar 10 volts, the top wrap was sightly pulling
away.
The screen had not totally failed but had a 60hrz ripple running to to
bottom. most of the caps looked good but I changed all the output, isolated
side to be safe.
Screen looks great now
Robert
- Original Message - From: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] FYI off topic



Were these capacitors visibly bulging on top? The story goes that a few
years ago, a cap provider in China got their mix wrong for the dielectric,
and tens of thousands (maybe more) of these caps got put in all kinds of
devices. They didn't fail immediately, but a well after the warranty had
run out.

On Tue, 7 May 2013, Robert Frailey wrote:


Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power
supply.
They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year i've
fixed 9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power supply.
I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf
10v, i put in a 470uf at 25v.
Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side job
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Re: [U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread Allen Elwood (TW)


thanks for the heads up!

although i make recreations of vintage guitar tube amplifiers it never 
occurred to me to pop open a monitor and look for bad caps


the number one problem with vintage tube amps are the electrolytic caps 
in the power filter section.  the electrolyte drys up (or oozes out) and 
starts leaking DC into the AC section of the circuit.


i have one out in my shop right now that i'm gonna open up tonight!


On 5/7/2013 2:05 PM, Robert Frailey wrote:

Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power 
supply.
They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year 
i've fixed 9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power 
supply.
I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf 
10v, i put in a 470uf at 25v.
Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side 
job in the future, everyone will have a couple.


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Re: [U2] FYI off topic

2013-05-07 Thread Allen Elwood (TW)


ah, yes, the DOSPFFT

hate those guys

'NO USER SERVICEABLE PARTS INSIDE

yeah.   those guys.

On 5/7/2013 2:36 PM, George Gallen wrote:

Better be careful, the division of stopping people from fixing things will be 
after you!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 5:34 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] FYI off topic

sounds about right, most caps the cover was shrinking due to overheating,
the one today was a 1000uf ar 10 volts, the top wrap was sightly pulling
away.
The screen had not totally failed but had a 60hrz ripple running to to
bottom. most of the caps looked good but I changed all the output, isolated
side to be safe.
Screen looks great now
Robert
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Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] FYI off topic



Were these capacitors visibly bulging on top? The story goes that a few
years ago, a cap provider in China got their mix wrong for the dielectric,
and tens of thousands (maybe more) of these caps got put in all kinds of
devices. They didn't fail immediately, but a well after the warranty had
run out.

On Tue, 7 May 2013, Robert Frailey wrote:


Dont throw away those flat screens when they die.
I fixed one today, 30 minutes and 5 capacitors on the output power
supply.
They seem to be made with under rated caps. So far since last year i've
fixed 9 flat screen monitors, all capacitors in the output power supply.
I've change the caps but up'd the rated voltage on each so if it 470uf
10v, i put in a 470uf at 25v.
Easier than fixing tube monitors, takes about 30 minutes. Nice side job
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