[U2] Job: Hampshire College
We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an asset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you in industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great benefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). https://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 Hampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution and member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is accepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its Information Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator providing a variety of technical and user support for the college’s Colleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment vendor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position analyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative software enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports and providing application training. The developer creates new applications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions to end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in information systems and software design or equivalent training and experience. Application programming and analysis experience in the design, development and implementation of administrative application functions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records and Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of experience with at least one relational database, using a query language and with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also required. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web programming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and experience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a competitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your cover letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional references via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- Jeff Butera Hampshire College jbut...@hampshire.edu 413-559-5556 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers typing in Unidata ? -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- eff Butera ampshire College but...@hampshire.edu 13-559-5556 ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
Well, it is pretty impressive that Jeff (aka Dr. Butera) actually knows that his ERP system is running on U2/MultiValue/PICK while many Datatel administrators think of themselves as Datatel developers or Colleague developers or Envision programmers or, at a stretch, possibly even UniData developers. I doubt that (m)any Datatel developers would search for a new position using U2 in spite of some efforts to make that term more visible. There are a ton of Datatel positions out there and you do not see many come through here, so I would not shoot the messenger on this one, K? smiles --dawn P.S. Jeff, sadly I do not qualify for the position as I do not have a degree in Computer Science (there was no such degree at my college back when I attended), although I have taught the subject. cheers! On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers typing in Unidata ? -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- eff Butera ampshire College but...@hampshire.edu 13-559-5556 ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
If a job seeker is looking for Unidata, which is a rare to unique term, they will never see this job. Yet that is the very skill for which the organization is looking. That Jeff knows it, is not material, if no one else can even find the job. -Original Message- From: Dawn Wolthuis dw...@tincat-group.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:31 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College Well, it is pretty impressive that Jeff (aka Dr. Butera) actually knows hat his ERP system is running on U2/MultiValue/PICK while many Datatel dministrators think of themselves as Datatel developers or Colleague evelopers or Envision programmers or, at a stretch, possibly even niData developers. I doubt that (m)any Datatel developers would search for new position using U2 in spite of some efforts to make that term more isible. There are a ton of Datatel positions out there and you do not see many come hrough here, so I would not shoot the messenger on this one, K? smiles --dawn .S. Jeff, sadly I do not qualify for the position as I do not have a egree in Computer Science (there was no such degree at my college back hen I attended), although I have taught the subject. cheers! On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers typing in Unidata ? -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- eff Butera ampshire College but...@hampshire.edu 13-559-5556 ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- awn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an asset (*unidata preferred*). Emphasis Mine. Seems pretty specific to me. Wjhonson wrote: Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers typing in Unidata ? -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA jschasny at gmail dot com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
To this list. Then the job description ITSELF does not mention Unidata whatsoever. To me that says that posting this job anywhere other than this list, for example Dice or Monster is NOT going to mention Unidata Since it's not going to say Hi I'm Jeff Butera chatting here and I'm going to make an offhand remark and THEN post the specific job description. The specific job description itself, without Jeff's offhand starting remark does NOT mention Unidata. It's practically blasphemy. -Original Message- From: Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:33 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be n asset (*unidata preferred*). Emphasis Mine. Seems pretty specific to me. Wjhonson wrote: Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers typing n Unidata ? -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- --- eff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA schasny at gmail dot com --- __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
I was going to write a polite well structured response pointing out that Colleague is a special skill set above and beyond U2 but you know what, for my own personal satisfaction and that of the whole group, Shut the fuck up Will. Wjhonson wrote: To this list. Then the job description ITSELF does not mention Unidata whatsoever. To me that says that posting this job anywhere other than this list, for example Dice or Monster is NOT going to mention Unidata Since it's not going to say Hi I'm Jeff Butera chatting here and I'm going to make an offhand remark and THEN post the specific job description. The specific job description itself, without Jeff's offhand starting remark does NOT mention Unidata. It's practically blasphemy. -Original Message- From: Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:33 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be n asset (*unidata preferred*). Emphasis Mine. Seems pretty specific to me. Wjhonson wrote: Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers typing n Unidata ? -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA jschasny at gmail dot com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
On 04/25/2012 05:23 PM, Wjhonson wrote: Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers typing in Unidata ? I'm more interested in someone who knows academia and Datatel. But yes, if someone here spies the list I assume they know various things. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Buterajbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- Jeff Butera, PhD Manager of ERP Systems Hampshire College 413-559-5556 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
On 04/25/2012 05:30 PM, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: P.S. Jeff, sadly I do not qualify for the position as I do not have a degree in Computer Science (there was no such degree at my college back when I attended), although I have taught the subject. cheers! Note the reference to or equivalent experience/training. We'd hire you Dawn! But it's a long commute from Iowa. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Buterajbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- eff Butera ampshire College but...@hampshire.edu 13-559-5556 ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Jeff Butera, PhD Manager of ERP Systems Hampshire College 413-559-5556 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
So you're interested in someone who knows Datatel, and yet your ad does not mention Datatel. And that doesn't seem peculiar at all? Doesn't strike you that perhaps the ad itself is faulty in some way? That googling for datatel job unidata would not find this posting at all? That perhaps a dozen job seekers with exquisite datatel credentials would not apply simply because they can't find your ad? Doesn't it seem likely that 80% of Unidata programmers don't read this list whatsoever ? And they will only find the job if you specify Unidata or Datatel in the actual description? And yes I did look on your website, and it also does not specify Unidata, nor does it specify Datatel. And no one googles for colleague. So essentially you eliminate every qualified person, since they can't even find your job. -Original Message- From: Jeff Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 3:48 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College On 04/25/2012 05:23 PM, Wjhonson wrote: Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers typing n Unidata ? I'm more interested in someone who knows academia and Datatel. But yes, f someone here spies the list I assume they know various things. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Buterajbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu - eff Butera, PhD anager of ERP Systems ampshire College 13-559-5556 ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
LOL. Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jeff. Back atcha. smiles. --dawn On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Jeff Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu wrote: On 04/25/2012 05:30 PM, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: P.S. Jeff, sadly I do not qualify for the position as I do not have a degree in Computer Science (there was no such degree at my college back when I attended), although I have taught the subject. cheers! Note the reference to or equivalent experience/training. We'd hire you Dawn! But it's a long commute from Iowa. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Buterajbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.**orgu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/**index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164http://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- eff Butera ampshire College but...@hampshire.edu 13-559-5556 __**_ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Jeff Butera, PhD Manager of ERP Systems Hampshire College 413-559-5556 __**_ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/**mailman/listinfo/u2-usershttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
On 04/25/2012 05:37 PM, Wjhonson wrote: To this list. Then the job description ITSELF does not mention Unidata whatsoever. To me that says that posting this job anywhere other than this list, for example Dice or Monster is NOT going to mention Unidata Since it's not going to say Hi I'm Jeff Butera chatting here and I'm going to make an offhand remark and THEN post the specific job description. I'm going to pour some gas on the fire for Wil and say many of you on this list don't know crap about academia. Then again, I don't know much about working in the corporate side - but I don't try to tell you what to do. We NEVER advertise on Dice, Monster or other national sites - the quality of applicants from those sites is a horrible mismatch for us in academia. We have very targeted advertising for our positions, most of which are college-centric (higeredjobs.com, chronicle.com, etc). I chose to post it here as a courtesy for some who may have the U2 skillset and looking for work, even though they may not be familiar with a college environment. Yes, Wil, perhaps I would do better to put Unidata directly in the job description if I were seeking to pull in a super-qualified U2 programmer. Then again, perhaps I know more about the position and/or our 5 and 10 year plans that may have us out of the Unidata world (for various non-technical reasons - most here know I'm an ardent U2 supporter). Perhaps I know that Datatel (err, Ellucian's) toolkit is so damn proprietary that knowing U2 is only a small piece of he puzzle. The job doesn't mention Datatel because Datatel no longer exists and I just restructured so there's no split between Datatel and other non-ERP programming in this job. Likewise, see my 5- and 10- year comment above - we may not be with Datatel for long. Let's say that contrary to Wil's opinion, I actually know what I'm doing - the job description was carefully crafted with certain words left out on purpose. -- Jeff Butera, PhD Manager of ERP Systems Hampshire College 413-559-5556 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
Right so you get applicants who don't have a clue about the core software you are using. That's brilliant! -Original Message- From: Jeff Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 4:06 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College On 04/25/2012 05:37 PM, Wjhonson wrote: To this list. Then the job description ITSELF does not mention Unidata hatsoever. To me that says that posting this job anywhere other than this list, for xample Dice or Monster is NOT going to mention Unidata Since it's not going to say Hi I'm Jeff Butera chatting here and I'm going to ake an offhand remark and THEN post the specific job description. I'm going to pour some gas on the fire for Wil and say many of you on his list don't know crap about academia. Then again, I don't know much bout working in the corporate side - but I don't try to tell you what o do. We NEVER advertise on Dice, Monster or other national sites - he quality of applicants from those sites is a horrible mismatch for us n academia. We have very targeted advertising for our positions, most of which are ollege-centric (higeredjobs.com, chronicle.com, etc). I chose to post t here as a courtesy for some who may have the U2 skillset and looking or work, even though they may not be familiar with a college environment. Yes, Wil, perhaps I would do better to put Unidata directly in the job escription if I were seeking to pull in a super-qualified U2 rogrammer. Then again, perhaps I know more about the position and/or ur 5 and 10 year plans that may have us out of the Unidata world (for arious non-technical reasons - most here know I'm an ardent U2 upporter). Perhaps I know that Datatel (err, Ellucian's) toolkit is so amn proprietary that knowing U2 is only a small piece of he puzzle. The job doesn't mention Datatel because Datatel no longer exists and I ust restructured so there's no split between Datatel and other non-ERP rogramming in this job. Likewise, see my 5- and 10- year comment bove - we may not be with Datatel for long. Let's say that contrary to Wil's opinion, I actually know what I'm doing the job description was carefully crafted with certain words left out n purpose. - eff Butera, PhD anager of ERP Systems ampshire College 13-559-5556 ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
No.. one... searches... for... colleague. What part of English don't you get? No one is going to find a job by searching for the word colleague -Original Message- From: Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 4:20 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College I was going to write a polite well structured response pointing out that olleague is a special skill set above and beyond U2 but you know what, or my own personal satisfaction and that of the whole group, Shut the uck up Will. Wjhonson wrote: To this list. Then the job description ITSELF does not mention Unidata hatsoever. To me that says that posting this job anywhere other than this list, for xample Dice or Monster is NOT going to mention Unidata Since it's not going to say Hi I'm Jeff Butera chatting here and I'm going to ake an offhand remark and THEN post the specific job description. The specific job description itself, without Jeff's offhand starting remark oes NOT mention Unidata. It's practically blasphemy. -Original Message- From: Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:33 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be n asset (*unidata preferred*). Emphasis Mine. Seems pretty specific to me. Wjhonson wrote: Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers yping n Unidata ? -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [U2] Job: Hampshire College We have an opening and someone with good U2 skills could certainly be an sset (unidata preferred). While academia can't always compete dollar-for-dollar with those of you n industry, we offer a competitive salary for this market and great enefits (4 weeks paid vacation from day 1, among others). ttps://jobs.hampshire.edu/index.cgi?JA_m=JASDETJA_s=164 ampshire College, an independent, innovative liberal arts institution nd member of the Five College consortium in Amherst Massachusetts, is ccepting applications for a Database Systems Developer in its nformation Technology Department. The Database Systems Developer is the lead developer and administrator roviding a variety of technical and user support for the college’s olleague administrative computing system; develops programs to augment endor-supplied software; and enhance web-based services. This position nalyzes, develops, implements and documents custom administrative oftware enhancements, and supports end-users by creating ad-hoc reports nd providing application training. The developer creates new pplications, determines user needs, and implements efficient solutions o end-user concerns, questions and problems. A bachelor's degree in Computer Science is required with emphasis in nformation systems and software design or equivalent training and xperience. Application programming and analysis experience in the esign, development and implementation of administrative application unctions such as Finance, Human Resources, Student and Academic records nd Development or equivalent systems highly desirable. Five years of xperience with at least one relational database, using a query language nd with several programming languages, especially BASIC, is also equired. Previous experience with Colleague highly desirable. Prior web rogramming experience, knowledge of Java, PERL, Python or PHP, and xperience with MySQL also desirable. This full time, 12 month position begins July 2, 2012. We offer a ompetitive salary and excellent benefits program. Please submit your over letter, resume and names/phone numbers of three professional eferences via our website at http://jobs.hampshire.edu -- --- eff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA schasny at gmail dot com --- __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
Wouldn't it make more sense if you were a RocketSoftware U2 support? Ardent is old news... From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Butera [jbut...@hampshire.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:06 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College most here know I'm an ardent U2 supporter. Jeff Butera, PhD ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College
Doesn't it seem likely that 80% of Unidata programmers don't read this list whatsoever ? That is too bad. Those 80% are truly missing out on a (mostly) supportive, collegial and welcoming U2 community resource. On 4/25/2012 6:55 PM, Wjhonson wrote: So you're interested in someone who knows Datatel, and yet your ad does not mention Datatel. And that doesn't seem peculiar at all? Doesn't strike you that perhaps the ad itself is faulty in some way? That googling for datatel job unidata would not find this posting at all? That perhaps a dozen job seekers with exquisite datatel credentials would not apply simply because they can't find your ad? Doesn't it seem likely that 80% of Unidata programmers don't read this list whatsoever ? And they will only find the job if you specify Unidata or Datatel in the actual description? And yes I did look on your website, and it also does not specify Unidata, nor does it specify Datatel. And no one googles for colleague. So essentially you eliminate every qualified person, since they can't even find your job. -Original Message- From: Jeff Buterajbut...@hampshire.edu To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 3:48 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Job: Hampshire College On 04/25/2012 05:23 PM, Wjhonson wrote: Your ad doesn't even mention U2 (Universe or Unidata) You're assuming that Colleague will show up in searches for job seekers typing n Unidata ? I'm more interested in someone who knows academia and Datatel. But yes, f someone here spies the list I assume they know various things. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
