RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

2007-06-15 Thread brian
'Scuse me, there's nowt wrong with .Net.

So long as you've got UniObjects ...

It's all stolen from Delphi anyway.



Brian

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RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

2007-06-14 Thread Ross Ferris
Ahhh - you want to get to the REAL programming language, then you will
have to access the COBOL submerged in the bowels of ABAP !

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage > Better by Design!

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>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen E. Elwood
>Sent: Friday, 15 June 2007 2:13 AM
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>Subject: RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts
>
>As someone who bought a copy of ABAP/4 programming for the SAP system
>just
>to see what it was all about, I can answer a emphatic NO!  It's the
>worst
>thing I've ever seen in my life.  They may be able to make more money,
>but
>this is NOT programming as you and I know it.
>
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of will
>Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 08:07
>To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>Subject: [U2] List of MV Database Experts
>
>
>   Is there a list of MV experts reachable via the Internet?
>   I am thinking that such list would give name or company name and
>contact
>   information along with number of years with MV and perhaps flavors
as
>well
>   as applications.  This would provide an on-line source for help,
>especially
>   in geographical areas where that help is sparse.
>   If the number of MV users in rising as indicated in some of the
>messages
>on
>   this list, we might all gain new business.  If the reverse is true,
>then
>we
>   can see that it is time to jump ship and learn SAP (Are the Germans
>winning
>   the software wars?).
>   Such  a  list  of  course  raises the fear that employers will see
>the
>   competition between us and try to drive down consulting fees and
>wages
>(can
>   they get any lower?).  However, I think that the difficulties
>managing
>   off-shore programming and poor quality may have taught some of the
>employers
>   a bitter lesson as to what "cheap" really means.   Of course there
>will
>   always be those whose attitude is similar to the man with a brain
>tumor
>who
>   found a "certified" surgeon who would remove it for $29.95/hour
>including
>   travel time.
>   Comments are invited directly and I will report them to all
>   Patrick "Will" Williams
>
> Patrick J. Williams, President
> AMERICAN COMPUTER TECHNICS, INC.
> www.americancomputertechnics.com
> Raleigh, NC
> 919 567-0042
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Re: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

2007-06-14 Thread Moderator

All,
  This is useful, but not technical. That sounds like the ideal topic 
for U2-Community. Please continue it there.


  - Charles Barouch, Moderator
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Re: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

2007-06-14 Thread will
Maby Kevin's list was pre-Internet, at any rate it didn't even make an 
indelible mark with the "listees" . 

An effective list would need to be advertised, on-line and in front of 
all vendors of MV database/development software and related production, 
systemic or applications software.


Will

Colin Jennings wrote:

  Is there a list of MV experts reachable via the Internet?
  I am thinking that such list would give name or company name and 
contact
  information along with number of years with MV and perhaps flavors 
as well
  as applications.  This would provide an on-line source for help, 
especially

  in geographical areas where that help is sparse.



Kevin King had a list somewhere, I can't remember whether it was for 
MV or SB+ professionals, but I was definitely on it and it raised a 
few calls - though no money unfortunately!


Col.
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RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

2007-06-14 Thread George R Smith
Ben there, done that !!

Trying to escape the dark side 

grs


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Re: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

2007-06-14 Thread Colin Jennings

  Is there a list of MV experts reachable via the Internet?
  I am thinking that such list would give name or company name and contact
  information along with number of years with MV and perhaps flavors as 
well
  as applications.  This would provide an on-line source for help, 
especially

  in geographical areas where that help is sparse.



Kevin King had a list somewhere, I can't remember whether it was for MV or 
SB+ professionals, but I was definitely on it and it raised a few calls - 
though no money unfortunately!


Col.
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Re: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

2007-06-14 Thread Don Kibbey

Embrace the dark side

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RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

2007-06-14 Thread Allen E. Elwood
As someone who bought a copy of ABAP/4 programming for the SAP system just
to see what it was all about, I can answer a emphatic NO!  It's the worst
thing I've ever seen in my life.  They may be able to make more money, but
this is NOT programming as you and I know it.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of will
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 08:07
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] List of MV Database Experts


   Is there a list of MV experts reachable via the Internet?
   I am thinking that such list would give name or company name and contact
   information along with number of years with MV and perhaps flavors as
well
   as applications.  This would provide an on-line source for help,
especially
   in geographical areas where that help is sparse.
   If the number of MV users in rising as indicated in some of the messages
on
   this list, we might all gain new business.  If the reverse is true, then
we
   can see that it is time to jump ship and learn SAP (Are the Germans
winning
   the software wars?).
   Such  a  list  of  course  raises the fear that employers will see the
   competition between us and try to drive down consulting fees and wages
(can
   they get any lower?).  However, I think that the difficulties managing
   off-shore programming and poor quality may have taught some of the
employers
   a bitter lesson as to what "cheap" really means.   Of course there will
   always be those whose attitude is similar to the man with a brain tumor
who
   found a "certified" surgeon who would remove it for $29.95/hour including
   travel time.
   Comments are invited directly and I will report them to all
   Patrick "Will" Williams

 Patrick J. Williams, President
 AMERICAN COMPUTER TECHNICS, INC.
 www.americancomputertechnics.com
 Raleigh, NC
 919 567-0042
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[U2] List of MV Database Experts

2007-06-14 Thread will
   Is there a list of MV experts reachable via the Internet?
   I am thinking that such list would give name or company name and contact
   information along with number of years with MV and perhaps flavors as well
   as applications.  This would provide an on-line source for help, especially
   in geographical areas where that help is sparse.
   If the number of MV users in rising as indicated in some of the messages on
   this list, we might all gain new business.  If the reverse is true, then we
   can see that it is time to jump ship and learn SAP (Are the Germans winning
   the software wars?).
   Such  a  list  of  course  raises the fear that employers will see the
   competition between us and try to drive down consulting fees and wages (can
   they get any lower?).  However, I think that the difficulties managing
   off-shore programming and poor quality may have taught some of the employers
   a bitter lesson as to what "cheap" really means.   Of course there will
   always be those whose attitude is similar to the man with a brain tumor who
   found a "certified" surgeon who would remove it for $29.95/hour including
   travel time.
   Comments are invited directly and I will report them to all
   Patrick "Will" Williams

 Patrick J. Williams, President
 AMERICAN COMPUTER TECHNICS, INC.
 www.americancomputertechnics.com
 Raleigh, NC
 919 567-0042
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