Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-08 Thread Robert
And nowadays we are lucky to have additional choices, like UniVerse 
allowing you to key a space in and after pressing ENTER it gets 
removed and we have the same thing.


I like this technique better sometimes because in some versions of 
PICK/BASIC, control characters show up as a '.' in the Editor. You look 
at it, and without typing some more commands, you cannot differentiate 
between a control character and an actual period. But it's good to know 
multiple techniques in case we have to work on multiple systems.


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On 2/5/2014 4:07 PM, Martin Scholl wrote:

The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going,
The same I use dots in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the
top and do R/.//50 to remove the dot.

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What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
Did you try removing those?



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Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that
field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want to
make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th field.
Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting, instead,
then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

Martin:

This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.
Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

Bill
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UniVerse.

I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1

I thought

1.   I
2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
3.   .
4.   .
5.   1L
6.   S


Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?


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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-07 Thread Colin Alfke
I got this from him a number of years ago:

  And thank you for the appreciation of AE! I really worked on that 
  program, determined to get the best of the Pick and Prime Information 
  editors together in one place, plus some innovations of my own, such as 
  the EditValues (EV) command. UniData was just getting started and I 
  wrote the program without pay, on speculation, asking for generous 
  payment if UniData succeeded. They succeeded and honored the agreement. 
  David Brunel proved himself to be a man of unusually high integrity.

  Leif Smith
  I was the author of AE back when (started when UniData was Ming Yue, 
  David Brunel, and 5 chinese programmers in a basement in a home in 
  Aurora, Colorado. I'm out of the MV programming business now and 
  expected that AE would have long ago been completely supplanted by more 
  powerful products. By the way, I never was a UniData employee, just a 
  free-lance programmer playing a wild card. The whole deal was a 
  handshake and a few notes on scraps of paper.

-Original Message-
From: McGowan, Ian
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 6:26 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

http://www.linkedin.com/in/leifsmith - an interesting guy. Not sure if
anyone
remembers the old comp.databases.pick days, but Leif reminds me of Henry
Eggers - I only understood 10% of what he said, but it was always
interesting.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin King
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:02 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

AE is the brainchild of one Leif Smith as I recall.  Haven't seen him in
years, but he used to stomp around here in Denver.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:53 PM, McGowan, Ian wrote:

 It's well worth spending some time reading the AE help pages.  One of 
 my favorites is help + which ends with the gem We could go on and 
 on about this, but you probably get it.  I'm a huge fan of AE, even 
 though I spend most of my programming time inside a visual editor (I 
 like joe [ http://joe-editor.sourceforge.net/], not to start a 
 religious debate).  I don't use AE prestores with the wild abandon of 
 my misspent youth, but they're still a handy thing to know.  If anyone 
 knows the author of AE, let me know - I owe him or her several drinks...
[snip]


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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-07 Thread McGowan, Ian
That's brilliant!  Colin, would you mind if I steal that for www.pickwiki.com?

Ian

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Colin Alfke
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:14 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

I got this from him a number of years ago:

  And thank you for the appreciation of AE! I really worked on that
  program, determined to get the best of the Pick and Prime Information
  editors together in one place, plus some innovations of my own, such as
  the EditValues (EV) command. UniData was just getting started and I
  wrote the program without pay, on speculation, asking for generous
  payment if UniData succeeded. They succeeded and honored the agreement. 
  David Brunel proved himself to be a man of unusually high integrity.

  Leif Smith
  I was the author of AE back when (started when UniData was Ming Yue,
  David Brunel, and 5 chinese programmers in a basement in a home in
  Aurora, Colorado. I'm out of the MV programming business now and
  expected that AE would have long ago been completely supplanted by more
  powerful products. By the way, I never was a UniData employee, just a
  free-lance programmer playing a wild card. The whole deal was a
  handshake and a few notes on scraps of paper.

-Original Message-
From: McGowan, Ian
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 6:26 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

http://www.linkedin.com/in/leifsmith - an interesting guy. Not sure if anyone 
remembers the old comp.databases.pick days, but Leif reminds me of Henry Eggers 
- I only understood 10% of what he said, but it was always interesting.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin King
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:02 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

AE is the brainchild of one Leif Smith as I recall.  Haven't seen him in years, 
but he used to stomp around here in Denver.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:53 PM, McGowan, Ian wrote:

 It's well worth spending some time reading the AE help pages.  One of 
 my favorites is help + which ends with the gem We could go on and 
 on about this, but you probably get it.  I'm a huge fan of AE, even 
 though I spend most of my programming time inside a visual editor (I 
 like joe [ http://joe-editor.sourceforge.net/], not to start a 
 religious debate).  I don't use AE prestores with the wild abandon of 
 my misspent youth, but they're still a handy thing to know.  If anyone 
 knows the author of AE, let me know - I owe him or her several drinks...
[snip]


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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-07 Thread Colin
I don't - but of course, I didn't actually write it :)
Colin

 From: James.McGowan
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:57:35 -0800
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
 That's brilliant!  Colin, would you mind if I steal that for www.pickwiki.com?
 
 Ian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Colin Alfke
 Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:14 PM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
 I got this from him a number of years ago:
 
   And thank you for the appreciation of AE! I really worked on that
   program, determined to get the best of the Pick and Prime Information
   editors together in one place, plus some innovations of my own, such as
   the EditValues (EV) command. UniData was just getting started and I
   wrote the program without pay, on speculation, asking for generous
   payment if UniData succeeded. They succeeded and honored the agreement. 
   David Brunel proved himself to be a man of unusually high integrity.
 
   Leif Smith
   I was the author of AE back when (started when UniData was Ming Yue,
   David Brunel, and 5 chinese programmers in a basement in a home in
   Aurora, Colorado. I'm out of the MV programming business now and
   expected that AE would have long ago been completely supplanted by more
   powerful products. By the way, I never was a UniData employee, just a
   free-lance programmer playing a wild card. The whole deal was a
   handshake and a few notes on scraps of paper.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: McGowan, Ian
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 6:26 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/leifsmith - an interesting guy. Not sure if anyone 
 remembers the old comp.databases.pick days, but Leif reminds me of Henry 
 Eggers - I only understood 10% of what he said, but it was always interesting.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin King
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:02 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
 AE is the brainchild of one Leif Smith as I recall.  Haven't seen him in 
 years, but he used to stomp around here in Denver.
 
 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:53 PM, McGowan, Ian wrote:
 
  It's well worth spending some time reading the AE help pages.  One of 
  my favorites is help + which ends with the gem We could go on and 
  on about this, but you probably get it.  I'm a huge fan of AE, even 
  though I spend most of my programming time inside a visual editor (I 
  like joe [ http://joe-editor.sourceforge.net/], not to start a 
  religious debate).  I don't use AE prestores with the wild abandon of 
  my misspent youth, but they're still a handy thing to know.  If anyone 
  knows the author of AE, let me know - I owe him or her several drinks...
 [snip]
 
 
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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-06 Thread Tom Whitmore
Hi,
I use a single space which is nulled out by the editor.
Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Noah
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 7:31 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

Well, I'll be a son of a biscuit eater! I never knew that. I've done it the 
same way Martin does for 35 years. I just checked it in Jbase and it works. You 
learn something new every day. Of course, I consider a day a total waste if I 
don't either learn something new or catch hell about something. As you can 
guess, I don't have many wasted days.

Thanks, Dan!
Charlie

Tiny Bear Wild Bird Store
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On 02-05-2014 6:15 PM, Daniel McGrath wrote:
 A tip my original mentor taught me on the first day was that in ED/AE, the 
 back tick (`) gets treated as an empty line so you can keep going in insert 
 mode and not need to worry about it.

 Regards,
 Dan


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin 
 Scholl
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:07 PM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

 The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going, The same I use dots 
 in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the top and do R/.//50 to 
 remove the dot.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


 What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
 Did you try removing those?



 -Original Message-
 From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


 Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that 
 field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want to 
 make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th field.
 Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting, instead, 
 then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill 
 Haskett
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

 Martin:

 This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.
 Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

 Bill
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 *Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
 *Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
 UniVerse.

 I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1

 I thought

 1.   I
 2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
 3.   .
 4.   .
 5.   1L
 6.   S


 Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?

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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-06 Thread McGowan, Ian
That's not true for me, at least in Unidata - it inserts a literal space. 
Either there's a system option that controls it, or your application doesn't 
care about spaces in the data ;-)  Try a CA/ /* after entering some spaces 
and see what you see?

BOTW_DEV2ae trin.temp test
Top of New TEST in TRIN.TEMP.
*--: i
001= 1
002= 2
003= 3
004=
005= 5
006= 6
*--: p
Top.
001: 1
002: 2
003: 3
004:
005: 5
006: 6
Bottom.
*--: ca/ /*
Changed all occurrences (1) of   to * in record.
*--: p
Top.
001: 1
002: 2
003: 3
004: *
005: 5
006: 6
Bottom.


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Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 5:10 AM
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Hi,
I use a single space which is nulled out by the editor.
Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Noah
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 7:31 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

Well, I'll be a son of a biscuit eater! I never knew that. I've done it the 
same way Martin does for 35 years. I just checked it in Jbase and it works. You 
learn something new every day. Of course, I consider a day a total waste if I 
don't either learn something new or catch hell about something. As you can 
guess, I don't have many wasted days.

Thanks, Dan!
Charlie

Tiny Bear Wild Bird Store
Home of Safety Net Shipping
http://www.TinyBearWildBirdStore.com
Toll Free: 1-855-TinyBear (855-846-9232)

On 02-05-2014 6:15 PM, Daniel McGrath wrote:
 A tip my original mentor taught me on the first day was that in ED/AE, the 
 back tick (`) gets treated as an empty line so you can keep going in insert 
 mode and not need to worry about it.

 Regards,
 Dan


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin 
 Scholl
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:07 PM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

 The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going, The same I use dots 
 in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the top and do R/.//50 to 
 remove the dot.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


 What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
 Did you try removing those?



 -Original Message-
 From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


 Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that 
 field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want to 
 make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th field.
 Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting, instead, 
 then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill 
 Haskett
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

 Martin:

 This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.
 Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

 Bill
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 *Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
 *Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
 UniVerse.

 I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1

 I thought

 1.   I
 2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
 3.   .
 4.   .
 5.   1L
 6.   S


 Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?

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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-05 Thread Martin Scholl
The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going,
The same I use dots in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the
top and do R/.//50 to remove the dot.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
Did you try removing those?



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From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that
field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want to
make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th field.
Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting, instead,
then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

Martin:

This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.  
Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

Bill
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*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
*Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
 UniVerse.

 I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1

 I thought

 1.   I
 2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
 3.   .
 4.   .
 5.   1L
 6.   S


 Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?

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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-05 Thread Daniel McGrath
A tip my original mentor taught me on the first day was that in ED/AE, the back 
tick (`) gets treated as an empty line so you can keep going in insert mode and 
not need to worry about it.

Regards,
Dan


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Scholl
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:07 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going, The same I use dots 
in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the top and do R/.//50 to 
remove the dot.

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
Did you try removing those?



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From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that field.  
Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want to make sure 
you're not looking for the first character of the 178th field.
Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting, instead, then 
we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

Martin:

This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.  
Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

Bill
Untitled Page



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*Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
*Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
 UniVerse.

 I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1

 I thought

 1.   I
 2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
 3.   .
 4.   .
 5.   1L
 6.   S


 Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?

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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-05 Thread Charlie Noah
Well, I'll be a son of a biscuit eater! I never knew that. I've done it 
the same way Martin does for 35 years. I just checked it in Jbase and it 
works. You learn something new every day. Of course, I consider a day a 
total waste if I don't either learn something new or catch hell about 
something. As you can guess, I don't have many wasted days.


Thanks, Dan!
Charlie

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On 02-05-2014 6:15 PM, Daniel McGrath wrote:

A tip my original mentor taught me on the first day was that in ED/AE, the back 
tick (`) gets treated as an empty line so you can keep going in insert mode and 
not need to worry about it.

Regards,
Dan


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Scholl
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:07 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going, The same I use dots 
in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the top and do R/.//50 to 
remove the dot.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
Did you try removing those?



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From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that field.  
Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want to make sure 
you're not looking for the first character of the 178th field.
Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting, instead, then 
we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

Martin:

This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.
Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

Bill
Untitled Page



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*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
*Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

UniVerse.

I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1

I thought

1.   I
2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
3.   .
4.   .
5.   1L
6.   S


Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?


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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-05 Thread Kevin King
Unreal.  This old dog just learnt a new trick.


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Daniel McGrath
dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.comwrote:

 A tip my original mentor taught me on the first day was that in ED/AE, the
 back tick (`) gets treated as an empty line so you can keep going in insert
 mode and not need to worry about it.

 Regards,
 Dan


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Scholl
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:07 PM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

 The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going, The same I use
 dots in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the top and do
 R/.//50 to remove the dot.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


 What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
 Did you try removing those?



 -Original Message-
 From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


 Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that
 field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want to
 make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th field.
 Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting, instead,
 then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

 Martin:

 This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.
 Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

 Bill
 Untitled Page


 
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 *From:* msch...@martinscholl.com
 *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 *Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
 *Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
  UniVerse.
 
  I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1
 
  I thought
 
  1.   I
  2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
  3.   .
  4.   .
  5.   1L
  6.   S
 
 
  Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?
 
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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-05 Thread McGowan, Ian
It's well worth spending some time reading the AE help pages.  One of my 
favorites is help + which ends with the gem We could go on and on about 
this, but you probably get it.  I'm a huge fan of AE, even though I spend most 
of my programming time inside a visual editor (I like joe 
[http://joe-editor.sourceforge.net/], not to start a religious debate).  I 
don't use AE prestores with the wild abandon of my misspent youth, but they're 
still a handy thing to know.  If anyone knows the author of AE, let me know - I 
owe him or her several drinks...

The backtick is just the default 'command delimiter'.  You can read more about 
it with:

*--: help delimiter
Command: CDelimiter (CD)

'CD' allows you to change the command delimiter to any single character.
When you enter the editor for the first time the command delimiter is
set to the ` (weirdmark, not single quote) character.

Examples:

 *--: CD   [displays the current command delimiter; no change]
 Command delimiter is `

 *--: CD#  [changes the command delimiter to '#']
 Command delimiter is now #

The Command Delimiter is a single character that separates multiple
editor commands when they are entered at a single editor prompt.

Valid command delimiters are:

` , ; # $ %  ~ | [ ] { } /  '

and then onto prestores
Example:

 *--: G10`G20`G30   [go to line 10, then to 20, then to 30]

A rather pointless command, but it illustrates the principle.

Multipart commands are very useful as prestored commands. They allow
processing many records with a single command. For example, suppose
you had a select list of 100 records, and each of them needs every
occurrence of '100' changed to '250'. You can do this with a multipart
prestored command.

First create the prestored command:

   =DOITALL CU/100/250`FI`=DOITALL

Then run the command '=DOITALL' by entering '=DOITALL' as a command.

The editor will then loop through the list of records, perform the
change for each of them, file each of them, and then run =DOITALL again
on the next record.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 4:33 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

Unreal.  This old dog just learnt a new trick.


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Daniel McGrath
dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.comwrote:

 A tip my original mentor taught me on the first day was that in ED/AE, 
 the back tick (`) gets treated as an empty line so you can keep going 
 in insert mode and not need to worry about it.

 Regards,
 Dan


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Scholl
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:07 PM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

 The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going, The same I 
 use dots in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the top and 
 do
 R/.//50 to remove the dot.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


 What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
 Did you try removing those?



 -Original Message-
 From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


 Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of 
 that field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified 
 I want to make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th 
 field.
 Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting, 
 instead, then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill 
 Haskett
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

 Martin:

 This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.
 Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

 Bill
 Untitled Page


 --
 --
 - Original Message -
 *From:* msch...@martinscholl.com
 *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 *Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
 *Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
  UniVerse.
 
  I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1
 
  I thought
 
  1.   I
  2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
  3.   .
  4.   .
  5.   1L
  6.   S
 
 
  Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?
 
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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-05 Thread Kevin King
AE is the brainchild of one Leif Smith as I recall.  Haven't seen him in
years, but he used to stomp around here in Denver.


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:53 PM, McGowan, Ian 
james.mcgo...@bankofthewest.com wrote:

 It's well worth spending some time reading the AE help pages.  One of my
 favorites is help + which ends with the gem We could go on and on about
 this, but you probably get it.  I'm a huge fan of AE, even though I spend
 most of my programming time inside a visual editor (I like joe [
 http://joe-editor.sourceforge.net/], not to start a religious debate).  I
 don't use AE prestores with the wild abandon of my misspent youth, but
 they're still a handy thing to know.  If anyone knows the author of AE, let
 me know - I owe him or her several drinks...

 The backtick is just the default 'command delimiter'.  You can read more
 about it with:

 *--: help delimiter
 Command: CDelimiter (CD)

 'CD' allows you to change the command delimiter to any single character.
 When you enter the editor for the first time the command delimiter is
 set to the ` (weirdmark, not single quote) character.

 Examples:

  *--: CD   [displays the current command delimiter; no change]
  Command delimiter is `

  *--: CD#  [changes the command delimiter to '#']
  Command delimiter is now #

 The Command Delimiter is a single character that separates multiple
 editor commands when they are entered at a single editor prompt.

 Valid command delimiters are:

 ` , ; # $ %  ~ | [ ] { } /  '

 and then onto prestores
 Example:

  *--: G10`G20`G30   [go to line 10, then to 20, then to 30]

 A rather pointless command, but it illustrates the principle.

 Multipart commands are very useful as prestored commands. They allow
 processing many records with a single command. For example, suppose
 you had a select list of 100 records, and each of them needs every
 occurrence of '100' changed to '250'. You can do this with a multipart
 prestored command.

 First create the prestored command:

=DOITALL CU/100/250`FI`=DOITALL

 Then run the command '=DOITALL' by entering '=DOITALL' as a command.

 The editor will then loop through the list of records, perform the
 change for each of them, file each of them, and then run =DOITALL again
 on the next record.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 4:33 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

 Unreal.  This old dog just learnt a new trick.


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Daniel McGrath
 dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.comwrote:

  A tip my original mentor taught me on the first day was that in ED/AE,
  the back tick (`) gets treated as an empty line so you can keep going
  in insert mode and not need to worry about it.
 
  Regards,
  Dan
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
  u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Scholl
  Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:07 PM
  To: 'U2 Users List'
  Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
  The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going, The same I
  use dots in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the top and
  do
  R/.//50 to remove the dot.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
  [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
 
  What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
  Did you try removing those?
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
  To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
  Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
 
  Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of
  that field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified
  I want to make sure you're not looking for the first character of the
 178th field.
  Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting,
  instead, then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
  [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill
  Haskett
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
  To: U2 Users List
  Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
 
  Martin:
 
  This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.
  Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.
 
  Bill
  Untitled Page
 
 
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  - Original Message -
  *From:* msch...@martinscholl.com
  *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  *Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
  *Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
   UniVerse.
  
   I want to create

Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-05 Thread Clif Oliver
The UniVerse ED verb in input mode accepts a *single* space as a null line 
indicator.


Regards,

Clif


On Feb 5, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:

 A tip my original mentor taught me on the first day was that in ED/AE, the 
 back tick (`) gets treated as an empty line so you can keep going in insert 
 mode and not need to worry about it.
 
 Regards,
 Dan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Scholl
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:07 PM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
 The dots were just there to keep the numbered list going, The same I use dots 
 in the Editor to enter blank lines. Later I go to the top and do R/.//50 to 
 remove the dot.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:04 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
 
 What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
 Did you try removing those?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question
 
 
 Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that 
 field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want to 
 make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th field.
 Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting, instead, 
 then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
 
 Martin:
 
 This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.  
 Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.
 
 Bill
 Untitled Page
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 *From:* msch...@martinscholl.com
 *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 *Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
 *Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
 UniVerse.
 
 I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1
 
 I thought
 
 1.   I
 2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
 3.   .
 4.   .
 5.   1L
 6.   S
 
 
 Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?
 
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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-05 Thread McGowan, Ian
http://www.linkedin.com/in/leifsmith - an interesting guy. Not sure if anyone
remembers the old comp.databases.pick days, but Leif reminds me of Henry
Eggers - I only understood 10% of what he said, but it was always interesting.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 5:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

AE is the brainchild of one Leif Smith as I recall.  Haven't seen him in years, 
but he used to stomp around here in Denver.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:53 PM, McGowan, Ian  james.mcgo...@bankofthewest.com 
wrote:

 It's well worth spending some time reading the AE help pages.  One of 
 my favorites is help + which ends with the gem We could go on and 
 on about this, but you probably get it.  I'm a huge fan of AE, even 
 though I spend most of my programming time inside a visual editor (I 
 like joe [ http://joe-editor.sourceforge.net/], not to start a 
 religious debate).  I don't use AE prestores with the wild abandon of 
 my misspent youth, but they're still a handy thing to know.  If anyone 
 knows the author of AE, let me know - I owe him or her several drinks...
[snip]
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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-04 Thread Woodward, Bob
Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that
field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want
to make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th
field.  Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting,
instead, then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

Martin:

This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.  
Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

Bill
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- Original Message -
*From:* msch...@martinscholl.com
*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
*Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
 UniVerse.

 I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1

 I thought

 1.   I
 2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
 3.   .
 4.   .
 5.   1L
 6.   S


 Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?

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Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question

2014-02-04 Thread Wjhonson

What are the periods in 3 and 4 for?
Did you try removing those?



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From: Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary question


Just to make sure, you're wanting FIELD 178 and the first value of that
field.  Correct?  Because you have a length of 1, left justified I want
to make sure you're not looking for the first character of the 178th
field.  Maybe if you showed what you're wanting and what you're getting,
instead, then we'd be sure to give you an answer that makes sense.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:45 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston

Martin:

This is the only way to do accomplish the defined task in UniData.  
Maybe @RECORD178,1 is the preferred method in UV.

Bill
Untitled Page



- Original Message -
*From:* msch...@martinscholl.com
*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 2/4/2014 11:33 AM
*Subject:* [U2] UniVerse Dictionary queston
 UniVerse.

 I want to create a dictionary item that extract value 178,1

 I thought

 1.   I
 2.   EXTRACT(@RECORD,178,1,0)
 3.   .
 4.   .
 5.   1L
 6.   S


 Would do but it does not give me the desired result. Any suggestions?

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