Re: [U2] question(s)

2008-02-10 Thread Ray Wurlod
Printer memory segment removed occurs when you attempt to attach to a printer 
shared memory segment that was formerly owned by a now logged-out process but 
insufficient time has gone by for it to be cleaned up.  It's an alert, and may 
be safely ignored.
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/


[U2] question(s)

2008-02-06 Thread Doug Chanco
Hey all,

I am back to re tooling my mind from jBASE to Universe (although
one question is not vendor specific)



1.  In universe how can I tell what type of pick file I am looking
at (type 2,3,4,5,6, etc )
2.  I am getting a few (very few) PRINTER MEMORY SEGMENT REMOVED
errors in root's emails but the few I am getting (roughly 3 a day) I
cannot seem to figure out what's causing them.  All our root cron jobs
are either using uvcron or PHANTOM to start the universe program.
3.  does anyone have a suggestion on RANDOMLY (or as random as
possible) a way to SELECT a file?  I am trying to get @ 500 RANDOM
records from a file with 850,000 items.  I have some ideas such as
selecting the entire file and then every x records do some math
operation and if even use this record but since I am a pup compared to
some of you I have been doing pick forever vets out there I thought I
would throw this out and see what comes back.



The keys look like



51037517

51037516

15312939

51037518

15312936

51037519

51037512

51037513

51037515

14137791

51037514

51037510



Thanks everyone!



dougc
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/


Re: [U2] question(s)

2008-02-06 Thread john reid
1.  we use ANALYZE.FILE FILE.NAME .. it gives the scoop on anything
not a directory and a little bit on dynamic files.
2. That's an indication of some type of memory leak or stack overflow
I think. I'm pretty sure its an abnormal condition.  You could
probably duplicate it in a sub calling itself until it gets either too
deep or too big maybe.  The 'printer segment removed' I think is a
symptom of the abnormal condition.

3. If you dont require specific key characteristics, you can use
'SAMPLED'.  SELECT FILE.NAME SAMPLED 2000 , will take every 2000th
record as they occur in the file I believe.
john

On 2/6/08, Doug Chanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey all,

I am back to re tooling my mind from jBASE to Universe (although
 one question is not vendor specific)



 1.  In universe how can I tell what type of pick file I am looking
 at (type 2,3,4,5,6, etc )
 2.  I am getting a few (very few) PRINTER MEMORY SEGMENT REMOVED
 errors in root's emails but the few I am getting (roughly 3 a day) I
 cannot seem to figure out what's causing them.  All our root cron jobs
 are either using uvcron or PHANTOM to start the universe program.
 3.  does anyone have a suggestion on RANDOMLY (or as random as
 possible) a way to SELECT a file?  I am trying to get @ 500 RANDOM
 records from a file with 850,000 items.  I have some ideas such as
 selecting the entire file and then every x records do some math
 operation and if even use this record but since I am a pup compared to
 some of you I have been doing pick forever vets out there I thought I
 would throw this out and see what comes back.



 The keys look like



 51037517

 51037516

 15312939

 51037518

 15312936

 51037519

 51037512

 51037513

 51037515

 14137791

 51037514

 51037510



 Thanks everyone!



 dougc
 ---
 u2-users mailing list
 u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/



-- 
john
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/


Re: [U2] question(s)

2008-02-06 Thread john reid
For number one, you could also open the file in BASIC and do a
VAR=FILEINFO(FILE.VAR,#) where number is any number between 1 and
about 15.  File type is returned with a var of 4 in our system.

On 2/6/08, john reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 1.  we use ANALYZE.FILE FILE.NAME .. it gives the scoop on anything
 not a directory and a little bit on dynamic files.
 2. That's an indication of some type of memory leak or stack overflow
 I think. I'm pretty sure its an abnormal condition.  You could
 probably duplicate it in a sub calling itself until it gets either too
 deep or too big maybe.  The 'printer segment removed' I think is a
 symptom of the abnormal condition.

 3. If you dont require specific key characteristics, you can use
 'SAMPLED'.  SELECT FILE.NAME SAMPLED 2000 , will take every 2000th
 record as they occur in the file I believe.
 john

 On 2/6/08, Doug Chanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey all,
 
 I am back to re tooling my mind from jBASE to Universe (although
  one question is not vendor specific)
 
 
 
  1.  In universe how can I tell what type of pick file I am looking
  at (type 2,3,4,5,6, etc )
  2.  I am getting a few (very few) PRINTER MEMORY SEGMENT REMOVED
  errors in root's emails but the few I am getting (roughly 3 a day) I
  cannot seem to figure out what's causing them.  All our root cron jobs
  are either using uvcron or PHANTOM to start the universe program.
  3.  does anyone have a suggestion on RANDOMLY (or as random as
  possible) a way to SELECT a file?  I am trying to get @ 500 RANDOM
  records from a file with 850,000 items.  I have some ideas such as
  selecting the entire file and then every x records do some math
  operation and if even use this record but since I am a pup compared to
  some of you I have been doing pick forever vets out there I thought I
  would throw this out and see what comes back.
 
 
 
  The keys look like
 
 
 
  51037517
 
  51037516
 
  15312939
 
  51037518
 
  15312936
 
  51037519
 
  51037512
 
  51037513
 
  51037515
 
  14137791
 
  51037514
 
  51037510
 
 
 
  Thanks everyone!
 
 
 
  dougc
  ---
  u2-users mailing list
  u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
 


 --
 john



-- 
john
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/


RE: [U2] question(s)

2008-02-06 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
1.  Any of the UniVerse file utilities should tell you type; FILE.STAT,
GROUP.STAT, HASH.HELP, etc.  Or LISTFL has a TYPE column and is quick.

3.  SELECT  FILE  SAMPLE  500  SAMPLED 1200  will select 500 records
from the file, picking every 1200th record.  Not truly random, but
probably close enough depending on your purposes.\

HTH,

Jeff Fitzgerald
Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Chanco
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:28 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] question(s)

Hey all,

I am back to re tooling my mind from jBASE to Universe (although
one question is not vendor specific)



1.  In universe how can I tell what type of pick file I am looking
at (type 2,3,4,5,6, etc )
2.  I am getting a few (very few) PRINTER MEMORY SEGMENT REMOVED
errors in root's emails but the few I am getting (roughly 3 a day) I
cannot seem to figure out what's causing them.  All our root cron jobs
are either using uvcron or PHANTOM to start the universe program.
3.  does anyone have a suggestion on RANDOMLY (or as random as
possible) a way to SELECT a file?  I am trying to get @ 500 RANDOM
records from a file with 850,000 items.  I have some ideas such as
selecting the entire file and then every x records do some math
operation and if even use this record but since I am a pup compared to
some of you I have been doing pick forever vets out there I thought I
would throw this out and see what comes back.



The keys look like



51037517

51037516

15312939

51037518

15312936

51037519

51037512

51037513

51037515

14137791

51037514

51037510



Thanks everyone!



dougc
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/


RE: [U2] question(s)

2008-02-06 Thread Brian Leach
Doug 
 1.In universe how can I tell what type of pick file I am looking
 at (type 2,3,4,5,6, etc )


PROGRAM FILEINFO

Get(Arg.) FileName Else
  Crt 'File : ':; Input FileName
  If FileName = '' Then STOP
End

Open FileName To FL Else
  Crt 'Cannot open ':FileName
  STOP
End
Status FStat From FL Else
  Crt 'Cannot stat ':FileName
  STOP
End

FileType = FStat21
FileMod  = FStat22
FileSep  = FStat23
FileSize = FStat6
Crt FileName, 'Type = ':FileType, 'Mod = ':FileMod, 'Sep = ':FileSep,'Size =
':FileSize
STOP


 3.does anyone have a suggestion on RANDOMLY (or as random as
 possible) a way to SELECT a file?  I am trying to get @ 500 

Are all the keys sequential?
If so, a simple program to do a Randomize then assemble a list of random
numbers between the min and max values of the key would be easiest. Just
write that list to SAVEDLISTS and then GET.LIST it.

Otherwise you can use SAMPLE or SAMPLED but that's not really randomized as
such..

Brian
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/


RE: [U2] question(s)

2008-02-06 Thread Anthony Youngman
The one problem with SAMPLE and SAMPLED is that, afaik, they are pseudo-random. 
Unless your file is volatile, you are likely to get approximately the same 
result set every time (or exactly the same result set, if your file hasn't 
changed).

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john reid
Sent: 06 February 2008 15:23
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] question(s)

1.  we use ANALYZE.FILE FILE.NAME .. it gives the scoop on anything
not a directory and a little bit on dynamic files.
2. That's an indication of some type of memory leak or stack overflow
I think. I'm pretty sure its an abnormal condition.  You could
probably duplicate it in a sub calling itself until it gets either too
deep or too big maybe.  The 'printer segment removed' I think is a
symptom of the abnormal condition.

3. If you dont require specific key characteristics, you can use
'SAMPLED'.  SELECT FILE.NAME SAMPLED 2000 , will take every 2000th
record as they occur in the file I believe.
john

On 2/6/08, Doug Chanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey all,

I am back to re tooling my mind from jBASE to Universe (although
 one question is not vendor specific)



 1.  In universe how can I tell what type of pick file I am looking
 at (type 2,3,4,5,6, etc )
 2.  I am getting a few (very few) PRINTER MEMORY SEGMENT REMOVED
 errors in root's emails but the few I am getting (roughly 3 a day) I
 cannot seem to figure out what's causing them.  All our root cron jobs
 are either using uvcron or PHANTOM to start the universe program.
 3.  does anyone have a suggestion on RANDOMLY (or as random as
 possible) a way to SELECT a file?  I am trying to get @ 500 RANDOM
 records from a file with 850,000 items.  I have some ideas such as
 selecting the entire file and then every x records do some math
 operation and if even use this record but since I am a pup compared to
 some of you I have been doing pick forever vets out there I thought I
 would throw this out and see what comes back.



 The keys look like



 51037517

 51037516

 15312939

 51037518

 15312936

 51037519

 51037512

 51037513

 51037515

 14137791

 51037514

 51037510



 Thanks everyone!



 dougc
 ---
 u2-users mailing list
 u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/



--
john
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/


Re: [U2] question(s)

2008-02-06 Thread Jeffrey Butera
quote who='Anthony Youngman' date='Wednesday 06 February 2008'
 The one problem with SAMPLE and SAMPLED is that, afaik, they are
 pseudo-random. Unless your file is volatile, you are likely to get
 approximately the same result set every time (or exactly the same result
 set, if your file hasn't changed).

Correct - when we want psuedo-random, we create a i-desc which calls RND to 
generate a 6 digit integer.  Then you can select against it (either sort or 
pattern match or whatever) and the results will vary from run to run.  It's 
not truly random, but reasonable enough for most uses (far better than SAMPLE 
or SAMPLED).

For example, to randomly select approx 10% of records:
:GET.LIST SOMELIST (or SELECT...)
SELECT FILENAME WITH XRANDOM LIKE ...0

or:

:GET.LIST SOMELIST (or SELECT...)
SELECT FILENAME BY XRANDOM
SELECT FIELNAME SAMPLED 10

To randomly select 10 records:
:GET.LIST SOMELIST (or SELECT...)
SELECT FILENAME BY XRANDOM 
SELECT FIELNAME SAMPLE 10




-- 
Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
Administrative Systems
Hampshire College
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
413-559-5556

Where I'm from, we believe all sorts of
things that aren't true. We call it history.
   The Wizard, Wicked
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/


RE: [U2] question(s)

2008-02-06 Thread Doug Chanco
Thanks a million everyone!

Great answers/suggestions/thoughts!

dougc
---
u2-users mailing list
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/