Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-31 Thread Kevin King
I for one am absolutely blown away at the price/performance of QM.  Just
getting started with it here but looking forward to seeing how far I can
push this.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Bob McGrath  wrote:

> Symeon Breen  gmail.com> writes:
>
> Under these circumstances, another alternative is to migrate to OpenQM,
> which is
> very mature, low cost, and very feature rich.
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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-31 Thread Bob McGrath
Symeon Breen  gmail.com> writes:

Under these circumstances, another alternative is to migrate to OpenQM, which is
very mature, low cost, and very feature rich.

bobm...




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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-29 Thread Symeon Breen
Thanks everyone, as always invaluable information.





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I concur with Rich completely.

On 5/28/2011 4:51 AM, Richard A. Wilson wrote:
> I believe it would be quicker for you to pick up UV then converting to UD
>
> The little differences will take much more time to deal with.
>
> Rich

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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-28 Thread Charles Stevenson

I concur with Rich completely.

On 5/28/2011 4:51 AM, Richard A. Wilson wrote:

I believe it would be quicker for you to pick up UV then converting to UD

The little differences will take much more time to deal with.

Rich


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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-28 Thread Richard A. Wilson

I believe it would be quicker for you to pick up UV then converting to UD

The little differences will take much more time to deal with.

Rich

Symeon Breen wrote:

Here is a strange one - i have a friend with a uv system that he cannot
maintain - so he has asked me to do this. It needs transferring to a new
machine and some changes making and maintained over the coming years.
However my team has worked exclusively in ud for 10 years, so uv is rather
rusty to say the least, and would not fit with our existing portfolio- what
would people recommend, stick with it on uv and hopefully not make too many
mistakes and try to learn fast, or convert the app to run on ud ?  His uv
livence is long out of maintenance so there is no financial reason to stick
with uv.

 

 


Thanks

 


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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-28 Thread Symeon Breen
Anyone from rocket prepared to enlighten us with an opinion ?  I will only
call you direct if you don't on here ;)



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+1 Convert.
 


Here is a strange one - i have a friend with a uv system that he cannot
maintain - so he has asked me to do this. It needs transferring to a new
machine and some changes making and maintained over the coming years.
However my team has worked exclusively in ud for 10 years, so uv is rather
rusty to say the least, and would not fit with our existing portfolio- what
would people recommend, stick with it on uv and hopefully not make too many
mistakes and try to learn fast, or convert the app to run on ud ?  His uv
livence is long out of maintenance so there is no financial reason to stick
with uv.

 

 


 

 

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To: 'U2 Users List' 
Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 8:47 am
Subject: [U2] uv 2 ud


Here is a strange one - i have a friend with a uv system that he cannot
maintain - so he has asked me to do this. It needs transferring to a new
machine and some changes making and maintained over the coming years.
However my team has worked exclusively in ud for 10 years, so uv is rather
rusty to say the least, and would not fit with our existing portfolio- what
would people recommend, stick with it on uv and hopefully not make too many
mistakes and try to learn fast, or convert the app to run on ud ?  His uv
livence is long out of maintenance so there is no financial reason to stick
with uv.

 

 

Thanks

 

Symeon.

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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-28 Thread Symeon Breen
I am a u2 var so getting licences is no problem - it is the comfort level of
supporting a uv system v converting it to ud i am wondering about.

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On 27/05/11 16:53, Israel, John R. wrote:
> As long as the customer has no preference, and there are not a bunch of
funky things that only work with UV, I would go with what you know.
Completing the project SHOULD be quicker and thus cheaper.  Maintenance
would also be quicker and cheaper.
> 
> But that is just the 10,000 foot view/opinion.

Actually, providing the underlying architecture is unchanged, completing
the project should be very quick by sticking with UV.

Can you get hold of a temporary licence?

Assuming it's on x86, copying accounts between widely different systems
is a doddle (I've done it between SCO, linux and Windows), and I'd guess
it's the same for others.

Even if you're going from an old SCO system to a new 2008 system, I'd be
inclined as a first attempt to copy the IBM directory and the account
across, "re-install" UV over the old system, and see if it works.
There's a good chance it will ...

Are you in the uk? Contact me off-line and we can discuss it...

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-27 Thread fft2001
+1 Convert.
 


Here is a strange one - i have a friend with a uv system that he cannot
maintain - so he has asked me to do this. It needs transferring to a new
machine and some changes making and maintained over the coming years.
However my team has worked exclusively in ud for 10 years, so uv is rather
rusty to say the least, and would not fit with our existing portfolio- what
would people recommend, stick with it on uv and hopefully not make too many
mistakes and try to learn fast, or convert the app to run on ud ?  His uv
livence is long out of maintenance so there is no financial reason to stick
with uv.

 

 


 

 

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From: Symeon Breen 
To: 'U2 Users List' 
Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 8:47 am
Subject: [U2] uv 2 ud


Here is a strange one - i have a friend with a uv system that he cannot
maintain - so he has asked me to do this. It needs transferring to a new
machine and some changes making and maintained over the coming years.
However my team has worked exclusively in ud for 10 years, so uv is rather
rusty to say the least, and would not fit with our existing portfolio- what
would people recommend, stick with it on uv and hopefully not make too many
mistakes and try to learn fast, or convert the app to run on ud ?  His uv
livence is long out of maintenance so there is no financial reason to stick
with uv.

 

 

Thanks

 

Symeon.

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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/05/11 16:53, Israel, John R. wrote:
> As long as the customer has no preference, and there are not a bunch of funky 
> things that only work with UV, I would go with what you know.  Completing the 
> project SHOULD be quicker and thus cheaper.  Maintenance would also be 
> quicker and cheaper.
> 
> But that is just the 10,000 foot view/opinion.

Actually, providing the underlying architecture is unchanged, completing
the project should be very quick by sticking with UV.

Can you get hold of a temporary licence?

Assuming it's on x86, copying accounts between widely different systems
is a doddle (I've done it between SCO, linux and Windows), and I'd guess
it's the same for others.

Even if you're going from an old SCO system to a new 2008 system, I'd be
inclined as a first attempt to copy the IBM directory and the account
across, "re-install" UV over the old system, and see if it works.
There's a good chance it will ...

Are you in the uk? Contact me off-line and we can discuss it...

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-27 Thread John Thompson
You better check to see if the customer has any Pick type dictionaries
or correlatives (ala A,F's etc.).  Universe DOES support these.  I
thought Unidata did NOT.  That will probably be one of your biggest
obstacles in converting them.

On 5/27/11, Israel, John R.  wrote:
> As long as the customer has no preference, and there are not a bunch of
> funky things that only work with UV, I would go with what you know.
> Completing the project SHOULD be quicker and thus cheaper.  Maintenance
> would also be quicker and cheaper.
>
> But that is just the 10,000 foot view/opinion.
>
>
> John Israel
> Senior Programmer/Analyst
> Dayton Superior Corporation
> 1125 Byers Road
> Miamisburg, OH  45342
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:47 AM
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: [U2] uv 2 ud
>
> Here is a strange one - i have a friend with a uv system that he cannot
> maintain - so he has asked me to do this. It needs transferring to a new
> machine and some changes making and maintained over the coming years.
> However my team has worked exclusively in ud for 10 years, so uv is rather
> rusty to say the least, and would not fit with our existing portfolio- what
> would people recommend, stick with it on uv and hopefully not make too many
> mistakes and try to learn fast, or convert the app to run on ud ?  His uv
> livence is long out of maintenance so there is no financial reason to stick
> with uv.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Symeon.
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Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-27 Thread Israel, John R.
As long as the customer has no preference, and there are not a bunch of funky 
things that only work with UV, I would go with what you know.  Completing the 
project SHOULD be quicker and thus cheaper.  Maintenance would also be quicker 
and cheaper.

But that is just the 10,000 foot view/opinion.


John Israel
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
1125 Byers Road
Miamisburg, OH  45342


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:47 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: [U2] uv 2 ud

Here is a strange one - i have a friend with a uv system that he cannot
maintain - so he has asked me to do this. It needs transferring to a new
machine and some changes making and maintained over the coming years.
However my team has worked exclusively in ud for 10 years, so uv is rather
rusty to say the least, and would not fit with our existing portfolio- what
would people recommend, stick with it on uv and hopefully not make too many
mistakes and try to learn fast, or convert the app to run on ud ?  His uv
livence is long out of maintenance so there is no financial reason to stick
with uv.

 

 

Thanks

 

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[U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-27 Thread Symeon Breen
Here is a strange one - i have a friend with a uv system that he cannot
maintain - so he has asked me to do this. It needs transferring to a new
machine and some changes making and maintained over the coming years.
However my team has worked exclusively in ud for 10 years, so uv is rather
rusty to say the least, and would not fit with our existing portfolio- what
would people recommend, stick with it on uv and hopefully not make too many
mistakes and try to learn fast, or convert the app to run on ud ?  His uv
livence is long out of maintenance so there is no financial reason to stick
with uv.

 

 

Thanks

 

Symeon.

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