Re: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Well, it's Friday afternoon and this thread is already way off topic so. These are all good arguments in favor of (fanfare goes here) www.fairtax.org The European VAT system is pretty simple in concept ... Trade between two 'people' who pay VAT is tax-exempt (that effectively means business to business, tax on materials). If one party is not tax-registered, the tax payable is that due at the point of sale. In other words, as I'm in the UK ... if I buy from Germany, I pay German VAT. If I buy from the shop down the road, I pay UK VAT. If I were registered, I wouldn't pay my suppliers any tax. I would charge my customers UK VAT, and account to HMRC for it. The only exception to this is for people like Americans ... :-) If you have a non-EU passport, and get the correct paperwork at the point of purchase, you can reclaim the VAT when you leave the Union (I think you have to get the paperwork as you leave the relevant country, then the refund is sent to your home address). Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The man lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998 Visit the MaVerick web-site - http://www.maverick-dbms.org Open Source Pick --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
We have integrated Taxware into our Unidata Shims database, using CALLC. Rather than using the client software, we build data-entry screens to front-end their client side interface. State-to-state taxation is so complex (especially Illinois) that it is nearly impossible to manage without some sort of third party application. Vance Alspach J L Industrial Supply Tony Gravagno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/2006 09:06 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax Tom Dodds wrote: We interfaced to the Vertex package... There is a company called AdValorem which has an MV interface to Vertex, Taxware, and possibly other packages that specialize in identifying the right tax values among jurisdictions. See this link for contact info: http://www. removethisADVALOREM.us/index_files/Page508.htm The web pages look awful in IE6 but the info is readable. Someone please tell Stan - and tell him Tony sent you too. :) HTH --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
Illinois don't talk to me about Illinois :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 October 2006 13:34 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax We have integrated Taxware into our Unidata Shims database, using CALLC. Rather than using the client software, we build data-entry screens to front-end their client side interface. State-to-state taxation is so complex (especially Illinois) that it is nearly impossible to manage without some sort of third party application. Vance Alspach J L Industrial Supply Tony Gravagno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/2006 09:06 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax Tom Dodds wrote: We interfaced to the Vertex package... There is a company called AdValorem which has an MV interface to Vertex, Taxware, and possibly other packages that specialize in identifying the right tax values among jurisdictions. See this link for contact info: http://www. removethisADVALOREM.us/index_files/Page508.htm The web pages look awful in IE6 but the info is readable. Someone please tell Stan - and tell him Tony sent you too. :) HTH --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
Norman Morgan wrote: Starting in January of next year, we will be collecting sales tax for packages that we ship to Texas and was wondering if someone would be willing to share (off-topic would be fine) on how they figure out the correct tax for each city code. Unfortunately we cannot go by zip code and I was wondering what other people have done. Reason for that, in their PDF, they use the example of Kingwood, Texas (which we have 4 zip codes for) states that the tax collected should go to City of Houston and the Houston MTA, not to Kingwood. Outside of that explaination, I cannot find any other cross reference between the 2, to try to create some logic out of it. The software package we use has what they call tax jurisdictions. This makes the layered sales taxes like Texas easier. Each customer account can have up to 3 tax jurisdictions assigned. For example, one can be for the state portion, one for a county portion, a third for the city portion. === Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brake.com === A cynic is a person searching for an honest man with a stolen lantern. === --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ You will find that three tax codes are not enough in some jurisdictions. Then city I live in collects state, county, city and hospital district taxes. I suggest going to http://www.window.state.tx.us/taxinfo/local/ and downloading the pdf of Texas taxes. From this you can create a file that your program can retrieve the tax rates. If a company is outside of the incorporated limts of a city you would not collect city sales tax for that city. Keep this in mind when you design your tax file. HTH Ron White --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
Some Russian taxes depend on things like which currency the bill is in and what payment method is used to pay the bill. How they expect me to know how the bill will be paid when I'm generating it I haven't yet figured out :( I end up billing the tax and automatically adjusting the bill when it is paid Colin 'I can't believe they taxed THAT' Alfke Calgary Canada -Original Message- From: Bob Witney Illinois don't talk to me about Illinois :-) -Original Message- From: vance.alspach We have integrated Taxware into our Unidata Shims database, using CALLC. Rather than using the client software, we build data-entry screens to front-end their client side interface. State-to-state taxation is so complex (especially Illinois) that it is nearly impossible to manage without some sort of third party application. Vance Alspach J L Industrial Supply --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
Well, it's Friday afternoon and this thread is already way off topic so. These are all good arguments in favor of (fanfare goes here) www.fairtax.org Cheers JR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax Some Russian taxes depend on things like which currency the bill is in and what payment method is used to pay the bill. How they expect me to know how the bill will be paid when I'm generating it I haven't yet figured out :( I end up billing the tax and automatically adjusting the bill when it is paid Colin 'I can't believe they taxed THAT' Alfke Calgary Canada -Original Message- From: Bob Witney Illinois don't talk to me about Illinois :-) -Original Message- From: vance.alspach We have integrated Taxware into our Unidata Shims database, using CALLC. Rather than using the client software, we build data-entry screens to front-end their client side interface. State-to-state taxation is so complex (especially Illinois) that it is nearly impossible to manage without some sort of third party application. Vance Alspach J L Industrial Supply --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
As a lover of puns, I can say that I won't talk to you about that as obviously it'illnois you! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Witney Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 07:15 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax Illinois don't talk to me about Illinois :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 October 2006 13:34 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax We have integrated Taxware into our Unidata Shims database, using CALLC. Rather than using the client software, we build data-entry screens to front-end their client side interface. State-to-state taxation is so complex (especially Illinois) that it is nearly impossible to manage without some sort of third party application. Vance Alspach J L Industrial Supply Tony Gravagno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/2006 09:06 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax Tom Dodds wrote: We interfaced to the Vertex package... There is a company called AdValorem which has an MV interface to Vertex, Taxware, and possibly other packages that specialize in identifying the right tax values among jurisdictions. See this link for contact info: http://www. removethisADVALOREM.us/index_files/Page508.htm The web pages look awful in IE6 but the info is readable. Someone please tell Stan - and tell him Tony sent you too. :) HTH --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
Look at vertexinc.com. They should have a product called vertex for sales tax. Kevin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry is right, logic has nothing to do with taxes. Strategically, I've found the best way to do tax calculations is to first assign codes to different tax types and then group these codes into a collection for a specific spot on a map (i.e. geocode). Certain areas will have city, county, state, transportation, education, or even just-for-the-sport-of-it tax types and the boundary of which tax types apply to a given area could be separated by a dirt road that doesn't even appear on a map. There are also tax rules for specific products being sold to specific areas or specific types of customers in specific areas and every combination of madness extended from there. Making matters worse, boundaries, tax rates, eligibility, exemptions, exceptions, etc. change at a moments notice. The coding of the calculation is itself not rocket science, but the collection of data to support those calculations is excessive even by government standards. For this reason products like Vertex that manage this mind-numbing minutae will always be needed in a country whose government severely obfuscates the obvious and then prosecutes for non-compliance. -Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PrecisOnline.com ** Check out scheduled Connect! training courses at http://www.PrecisOnline.com/train.html. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2/min or less. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
Larry is right, logic has nothing to do with taxes. Strategically, I've found the best way to do tax calculations is to first assign codes to different tax types and then group these codes into a collection for a specific spot on a map (i.e. geocode). Certain areas will have city, county, state, transportation, education, or even just-for-the-sport-of-it tax types and the boundary of which tax types apply to a given area could be separated by a dirt road that doesn't even appear on a map. There are also tax rules for specific products being sold to specific areas or specific types of customers in specific areas and every combination of madness extended from there. Making matters worse, boundaries, tax rates, eligibility, exemptions, exceptions, etc. change at a moments notice. The coding of the calculation is itself not rocket science, but the collection of data to support those calculations is excessive even by government standards. For this reason products like Vertex that manage this mind-numbing minutae will always be needed in a country whose government severely obfuscates the obvious and then prosecutes for non-compliance. -Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PrecisOnline.com ** Check out scheduled Connect! training courses at http://www.PrecisOnline.com/train.html. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
Starting in January of next year, we will be collecting sales tax for packages that we ship to Texas and was wondering if someone would be willing to share (off-topic would be fine) on how they figure out the correct tax for each city code. Unfortunately we cannot go by zip code and I was wondering what other people have done. Reason for that, in their PDF, they use the example of Kingwood, Texas (which we have 4 zip codes for) states that the tax collected should go to City of Houston and the Houston MTA, not to Kingwood. Outside of that explaination, I cannot find any other cross reference between the 2, to try to create some logic out of it. The software package we use has what they call tax jurisdictions. This makes the layered sales taxes like Texas easier. Each customer account can have up to 3 tax jurisdictions assigned. For example, one can be for the state portion, one for a county portion, a third for the city portion. === Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brake.com === A cynic is a person searching for an honest man with a stolen lantern. === --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
you may want to talk to ROI, I believe they support the Vertex tax software www.roisyn.com Rich Caminiti, Marc wrote: This is totally off topic and apologize for this. Starting in January of next year, we will be collecting sales tax for packages that we ship to Texas and was wondering if someone would be willing to share (off-topic would be fine) on how they figure out the correct tax for each city code. Unfortunately we cannot go by zip code and I was wondering what other people have done. Reason for that, in their PDF, they use the example of Kingwood, Texas (which we have 4 zip codes for) states that the tax collected should go to City of Houston and the Houston MTA, not to Kingwood. Outside of that explaination, I cannot find any other cross reference between the 2, to try to create some logic out of it. Thanks in advance Marc Marc Caminiti Nashbar Direct, Inc IS Manager Bike Nashbar 330.533.1989, ext 336 6103 State Route 446 330.702.9733, fax Canfield, OH 44406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nashbar.com Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Richard A. Wilson Lakeside Systems Smithfield, RI, USA Voice 401-231-3959 Fax 206-202-2064 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lakeside-systems.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
There are probably lots of tax packages out there to do this. One that I was using (on a mainframe) was Vertex. I believe Vertex has software and databases for this. So, you basically call their routines with the proper parameters and they return the tax to you. Anthony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caminiti, Marc Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:34 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax This is totally off topic and apologize for this. Starting in January of next year, we will be collecting sales tax for packages that we ship to Texas and was wondering if someone would be willing to share (off-topic would be fine) on how they figure out the correct tax for each city code. Unfortunately we cannot go by zip code and I was wondering what other people have done. Reason for that, in their PDF, they use the example of Kingwood, Texas (which we have 4 zip codes for) states that the tax collected should go to City of Houston and the Houston MTA, not to Kingwood. Outside of that explaination, I cannot find any other cross reference between the 2, to try to create some logic out of it. Thanks in advance Marc Marc Caminiti Nashbar Direct, Inc IS Manager Bike Nashbar 330.533.1989, ext 336 6103 State Route 446 330.702.9733, fax Canfield, OH 44406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nashbar.com Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
We interfaced to the Vertex package at a client in Tulsa, OK. The contact name was/is: Matt Dailey Account Executive, Tax Technology Vertex Inc. Where Taxation Meets Innovation T: 972.385.7409 F: 972.385.7219 M:972.567.5684 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or Maybe Alice Carter Senior Training Coordinator Vertex Inc. Where Taxation Meets Innovation 1041 Old Cassatt Road Berwyn, PA 19312 Phone: 484.595.6224 Fax: 610.640.2761 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.vertexinc.com HTH Tom Dodds [EMAIL PROTECTED] 708-234-9608 Office 630-235-2975 Cell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard A. Wilson Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:13 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax you may want to talk to ROI, I believe they support the Vertex tax software www.roisyn.com Rich Caminiti, Marc wrote: This is totally off topic and apologize for this. Starting in January of next year, we will be collecting sales tax for packages that we ship to Texas and was wondering if someone would be willing to share (off-topic would be fine) on how they figure out the correct tax for each city code. Unfortunately we cannot go by zip code and I was wondering what other people have done. Reason for that, in their PDF, they use the example of Kingwood, Texas (which we have 4 zip codes for) states that the tax collected should go to City of Houston and the Houston MTA, not to Kingwood. Outside of that explaination, I cannot find any other cross reference between the 2, to try to create some logic out of it. Thanks in advance Marc Marc Caminiti Nashbar Direct, Inc IS Manager Bike Nashbar 330.533.1989, ext 336 6103 State Route 446 330.702.9733, fax Canfield, OH 44406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nashbar.com Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Richard A. Wilson Lakeside Systems Smithfield, RI, USA Voice 401-231-3959 Fax 206-202-2064 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lakeside-systems.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [OT] - Texas Sales Tax
Tom Dodds wrote: We interfaced to the Vertex package... There is a company called AdValorem which has an MV interface to Vertex, Taxware, and possibly other packages that specialize in identifying the right tax values among jurisdictions. See this link for contact info: http://www. removethisADVALOREM.us/index_files/Page508.htm The web pages look awful in IE6 but the info is readable. Someone please tell Stan - and tell him Tony sent you too. :) HTH Tony Gravagno Nebula RD TG@ removethisNebula-RnD.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
