RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes
Yeah...something is probably weird with the configuration connecting the network printers. I had the same type of situation at a site in Wilkes-Barre PA. What I did was change the cron kickoff of the day end procedure to shut everything down and then restart everything, including restarting the printers prior to processing. This would kick everyone off, and clear any print jobs that hung. This happens alot if you use form queues set up to handle specialized printing along with funky print drivers (flipping from raw, pcl and pdf) Another culprit could be that there are printers assigned that are no longer active or changed, so check what printers are listed when checking uv.restart. Be forewarnedI had it become so bad sucking up sessions that there were memory issues making it difficult to restart uv! Glad to hear you settled in. As for me, I'm doing a 90 day try and buy at a spot where I did a JDE install as a Project manager...now I'm cleaning up crappy data, and re-engineering such simple things as validating addresses! Maybe even bringing them into this decade by utilizing something other than odbc (bleh!) Could it be uniobjects? intercall? brush the C cobwebs from my brain? Hopefully I'll return to my former status before the holidays... Debster ~~ www.infinite-systems.net "Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm". -Syrus Publilius Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Rodgers Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:44 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes Hi Debbie Nice to hear from you. I got me a 'real' job down here in Tampa. Thanks for the pointers. Our sysadmin (as usual) does not know UniVerse so there's a lot of "blind leading the blind" going on. The "cross-platform termination" sounds plausible but the name of the parent process (bin/usd /usr/opt/uv/spool/uv) seems to indicate that it is something to do with print jobs. Our development box uses UV.NET to share some files with production. That is not an issue where the production box does not use UV.NET for the same files. I'm just not sure how to identify the source of these processes. It's one of those situations where nobody really knows what is causing the problem and so no-one (including me ) wants to take ownership. I'm just hoping I can find some sort of clue to help figure out where to start looking. Cheers JR >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debster >Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:06 PM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes > >Hey John!! > >I have found > >Bad disconnect on telnet sessions (especially those dreaded closing X ) > >Branching out to NFS shares > >AIX it was coupled with Samba (users file not properly maintained) > >Check emulator settings > >Issues with phantom processes > >Check cross-platform processing terminations > > > >Debra A. Fedchin >~~ >H: 732.698.0499 >C: 732.233.3088 >www.infinite-systems.net > >"Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm". >-Syrus Publilius > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Rodgers >Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:37 AM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes > > >UniVerse 9.6.1.6 on HP-UX > > > >We have a mystery on our development box which causes it to crash (about >weekly). > > > >$ ps -ef > >Shows a lot (and I mean, A LOT) of lines like these: > > > >root 18105 20014 1 18:57:34 ? 0:00 > > >root 21633 20014 0 20:25:35 ? 0:00 > > >root 18553 20014 0 19:05:34 ? 0:00 > > > > >root 20014 1 0 Nov 6 ? 0:53 bin/usd /usr/opt/uv/spool/uv > > > > >the "20014" seems to be the parent. > > > >This does not happen on our production platform which is curious because >it should be a pretty close replication of our production environment. > > > >We think these are hangovers from print jobs initiated by the scheduler >? > >but that is as close as anyone has come to identifying the culprit. > > > >This seems to be a weekly phenomenon and we are investigating the >scheduler contents. > > > >Does anyone have any ideas where these might come from ? > > > > > >Cheers > > > > > > > >JR >--- --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes
Hi Debbie Nice to hear from you. I got me a 'real' job down here in Tampa. Thanks for the pointers. Our sysadmin (as usual) does not know UniVerse so there's a lot of "blind leading the blind" going on. The "cross-platform termination" sounds plausible but the name of the parent process (bin/usd /usr/opt/uv/spool/uv) seems to indicate that it is something to do with print jobs. Our development box uses UV.NET to share some files with production. That is not an issue where the production box does not use UV.NET for the same files. I'm just not sure how to identify the source of these processes. It's one of those situations where nobody really knows what is causing the problem and so no-one (including me ) wants to take ownership. I'm just hoping I can find some sort of clue to help figure out where to start looking. Cheers JR >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debster >Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:06 PM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes > >Hey John!! > >I have found > >Bad disconnect on telnet sessions (especially those dreaded closing X ) > >Branching out to NFS shares > >AIX it was coupled with Samba (users file not properly maintained) > >Check emulator settings > >Issues with phantom processes > >Check cross-platform processing terminations > > > >Debra A. Fedchin >~~ >H: 732.698.0499 >C: 732.233.3088 >www.infinite-systems.net > >"Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm". >-Syrus Publilius > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Rodgers >Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:37 AM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes > > >UniVerse 9.6.1.6 on HP-UX > > > >We have a mystery on our development box which causes it to crash (about >weekly). > > > >$ ps -ef > >Shows a lot (and I mean, A LOT) of lines like these: > > > >root 18105 20014 1 18:57:34 ? 0:00 > > >root 21633 20014 0 20:25:35 ? 0:00 > > >root 18553 20014 0 19:05:34 ? 0:00 > > > > >root 20014 1 0 Nov 6 ? 0:53 bin/usd /usr/opt/uv/spool/uv > > > > >the "20014" seems to be the parent. > > > >This does not happen on our production platform which is curious because >it should be a pretty close replication of our production environment. > > > >We think these are hangovers from print jobs initiated by the scheduler >? > >but that is as close as anyone has come to identifying the culprit. > > > >This seems to be a weekly phenomenon and we are investigating the >scheduler contents. > > > >Does anyone have any ideas where these might come from ? > > > > > >Cheers > > > > > > > >JR >--- --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes
Hey John!! I have found Bad disconnect on telnet sessions (especially those dreaded closing X ) Branching out to NFS shares AIX it was coupled with Samba (users file not properly maintained) Check emulator settings Issues with phantom processes Check cross-platform processing terminations Debra A. Fedchin ~~ H: 732.698.0499 C: 732.233.3088 www.infinite-systems.net "Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm". -Syrus Publilius -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Rodgers Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:37 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes UniVerse 9.6.1.6 on HP-UX We have a mystery on our development box which causes it to crash (about weekly). $ ps -ef Shows a lot (and I mean, A LOT) of lines like these: root 18105 20014 1 18:57:34 ? 0:00 root 21633 20014 0 20:25:35 ? 0:00 root 18553 20014 0 19:05:34 ? 0:00 root 20014 1 0 Nov 6 ? 0:53 bin/usd /usr/opt/uv/spool/uv the "20014" seems to be the parent. This does not happen on our production platform which is curious because it should be a pretty close replication of our production environment. We think these are hangovers from print jobs initiated by the scheduler ? but that is as close as anyone has come to identifying the culprit. This seems to be a weekly phenomenon and we are investigating the scheduler contents. Does anyone have any ideas where these might come from ? Cheers JR --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes
Thanks Mark I appreciate the suggestion but the question is really What is causing these things in the first place? As you say, we can clean up but I would much prefer to understand where they are coming from ... a) so I don't have to do the clean up b) so I can prevent them in the future c) because fixing something I don't understand is rarely successful d) just to satisfy my own curiosity Cheers JR >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Eastwood >Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 3:09 PM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes > >Just a guess...if you have a "Control" Phantom starting other Phantoms, >the Control should do a "JOBS" every so often to clean up the child >phantoms. > >Mark > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rodgers >Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:37 AM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes > >UniVerse 9.6.1.6 on HP-UX > >We have a mystery on our development box which causes it to crash (about >weekly). > >$ ps -ef > >Shows a lot (and I mean, A LOT) of lines like these: > >root 18105 20014 1 18:57:34 ? 0:00 >--- >u2-users mailing list >u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes
Just a guess...if you have a "Control" Phantom starting other Phantoms, the Control should do a "JOBS" every so often to clean up the child phantoms. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rodgers Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:37 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes UniVerse 9.6.1.6 on HP-UX We have a mystery on our development box which causes it to crash (about weekly). $ ps -ef Shows a lot (and I mean, A LOT) of lines like these: root 18105 20014 1 18:57:34 ? 0:00 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
