RE: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron
We've had similar issues and found that it isn't a UniVerse issue. It was processes using UniRPC connections (InterCall, UniObjects, UniCall/OBDC, etc.) still being active during the shutdown. These processes keep their socket connections open. This can prevent UniRPC from starting back up. The problem sounds like that you may have a process(es) using UniRPC when you shutdown UniVerse. If this is the case, under Sun Solaris and UV 9.1.4 we would see processes still using UniRPC go into FIN_WAIT_2 state for their still open TCP socket connection. If that was the case, we could guarantee that the UVRPC daemon (has it was called before UV 9.5.x) wouldn't start back up. Once those TCP connections cleared (went away), it was okay to start back up...sometimes it took awhile to clear though. Check what connections you have active, by issusing a: $ netstat -a | grep uvrpc *.uvrpc *.*0 0 49152 0 LISTEN If nothing is connected, you're safe to shutdown (like the above example). If you got processed connect - it may be bad. Strangely, under UV 10.1.12 and Solaris 9, we can now happily stop UV and start it up again...UniRPC *seems* to come backup -- even if processes are connected with open sockets. Could be wrong or just plain lucky, of course. We deal with this situation by adding to the uv.rc script, our own uv_kill_processes script which looks for UV processes and the shared memory segments. It loops until all are UV processes are killed (up to 4 attempts). This also deals with the UV shutdown process aborting if shared memory segments aren't released. Hopefully, this should help you out in some way. Regards, David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:02 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron Hello, We have a cron job which does the following: 1- Uses Universe's uv.rc script to stop Universe and unirpc daemon 2- Make a backup of the Production account into a different filesystem on the production machine. 3- Restart Universe unirps using the uv.rc script 4- Start the backup to tape of the copy of the production environment. When Universe is re-started along with the unirpc daemon within the cron job, Universe works but the unirpc daemon doesn't work correctly. It must be stopped manually from the uv menu and re-started. Has anyone here encountered a similar problem ? I've tried to get support help from IBM but I get the run-around. I'm told that IBM won't debug my companies script even though I've repeatedly told them that the script we are using the uv.rc script that was written by IBM. We are running Universe 10.1.8 on a HP.UX 11i machine. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron
Hmmm...I just realized... Had the same type of issue with UV 9.6 on AIX 5.2 so we had a similar kill process, often telnet connections would not release especially if the user had shelled out to perform a process (most notably to go to SMIT), along with samba sessions...the spooler would also be stopped. Then uv.rc would be executed to restart universe, and the spooler restarted If the shutdown was performed out-of-sync it would at times result in a memory segment error and the shutdown and system up process would have to be executed over. (this was fun cross-eyed at 3AM) If you aren't doing so already, I would suggest capturing all cron errors to a log file you can easily review -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hona, David S Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:15 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron We've had similar issues and found that it isn't a UniVerse issue. It was processes using UniRPC connections (InterCall, UniObjects, UniCall/OBDC, etc.) still being active during the shutdown. These processes keep their socket connections open. This can prevent UniRPC from starting back up. The problem sounds like that you may have a process(es) using UniRPC when you shutdown UniVerse. If this is the case, under Sun Solaris and UV 9.1.4 we would see processes still using UniRPC go into FIN_WAIT_2 state for their still open TCP socket connection. If that was the case, we could guarantee that the UVRPC daemon (has it was called before UV 9.5.x) wouldn't start back up. Once those TCP connections cleared (went away), it was okay to start back up...sometimes it took awhile to clear though. Check what connections you have active, by issusing a: $ netstat -a | grep uvrpc *.uvrpc *.*0 0 49152 0 LISTEN If nothing is connected, you're safe to shutdown (like the above example). If you got processed connect - it may be bad. Strangely, under UV 10.1.12 and Solaris 9, we can now happily stop UV and start it up again...UniRPC *seems* to come backup -- even if processes are connected with open sockets. Could be wrong or just plain lucky, of course. We deal with this situation by adding to the uv.rc script, our own uv_kill_processes script which looks for UV processes and the shared memory segments. It loops until all are UV processes are killed (up to 4 attempts). This also deals with the UV shutdown process aborting if shared memory segments aren't released. Hopefully, this should help you out in some way. Regards, David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:02 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron Hello, We have a cron job which does the following: 1- Uses Universe's uv.rc script to stop Universe and unirpc daemon 2- Make a backup of the Production account into a different filesystem on the production machine. 3- Restart Universe unirps using the uv.rc script 4- Start the backup to tape of the copy of the production environment. When Universe is re-started along with the unirpc daemon within the cron job, Universe works but the unirpc daemon doesn't work correctly. It must be stopped manually from the uv menu and re-started. Has anyone here encountered a similar problem ? I've tried to get support help from IBM but I get the run-around. I'm told that IBM won't debug my companies script even though I've repeatedly told them that the script we are using the uv.rc script that was written by IBM. We are running Universe 10.1.8 on a HP.UX 11i machine. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron
As above, LANG=C (or similar) must be set for rpcd to work correctly. other uv services work fine with LANG set to anything, rpc needs it tho ... Rgds On 10/05/06, Lembit Pirn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the LANG setting correct (C) ? Senn, Bruce wrote: FWIW, you can't always be sure of the environment when running something from cron. You might be missing something in the PATH variable or some other environment variable. I guess a question is whether this has worked in the past or is something new that you are trying to do? HTH. Bruce. Bruce J. SennPhone: (518) 388-6664 Senior System ManagerFAX:(518) 388-6458 Union CollegeE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schenectady, NY 12308WWW: http://www1.union.edu/~sennb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:02 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron Hello, We have a cron job which does the following: 1- Uses Universe's uv.rc script to stop Universe and unirpc daemon 2- Make a backup of the Production account into a different filesystem on the production machine. 3- Restart Universe unirps using the uv.rc script 4- Start the backup to tape of the copy of the production environment. When Universe is re-started along with the unirpc daemon within the cron job, Universe works but the unirpc daemon doesn't work correctly. It must be stopped manually from the uv menu and re-started. Has anyone here encountered a similar problem ? I've tried to get support help from IBM but I get the run-around. I'm told that IBM won't debug my companies script even though I've repeatedly told them that the script we are using the uv.rc script that was written by IBM. We are running Universe 10.1.8 on a HP.UX 11i machine. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Lembit Pirn 7+7 Software Mustamde tee 4 Tallinn 10621 Estonia phone: +372 6566 232 GSM: +372 5028707 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron
I guess a question is whether this has worked in the past or is something new that you are trying to do? This is something new. This client is our first client to make use of web services for our application. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron
As above, LANG=C (or similar) must be set for rpcd to work correctly. other uv services work fine with LANG set to anything, rpc needs it tho ... How can I check for the setting of LANG both on my current Universe setup and what its value is within the cron job ? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron
Now... Wouldn't the uv.rc default to the setting within UV.CONFIG? I don't recall having to reset it -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:17 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron As above, LANG=C (or similar) must be set for rpcd to work correctly. other uv services work fine with LANG set to anything, rpc needs it tho ... How can I check for the setting of LANG both on my current Universe setup and what its value is within the cron job ? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron
I was doing a similar routine 1. Check the documentaton for any missing files 2. Doublecheck uv.rc to make sure nothing is commented out 3. In uv.admin doublecheck the entries in the host file 4. Check if you are using the -stop option -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:02 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron Hello, We have a cron job which does the following: 1- Uses Universe's uv.rc script to stop Universe and unirpc daemon 2- Make a backup of the Production account into a different filesystem on the production machine. 3- Restart Universe unirps using the uv.rc script 4- Start the backup to tape of the copy of the production environment. When Universe is re-started along with the unirpc daemon within the cron job, Universe works but the unirpc daemon doesn't work correctly. It must be stopped manually from the uv menu and re-started. Has anyone here encountered a similar problem ? I've tried to get support help from IBM but I get the run-around. I'm told that IBM won't debug my companies script even though I've repeatedly told them that the script we are using the uv.rc script that was written by IBM. We are running Universe 10.1.8 on a HP.UX 11i machine. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron
FWIW, you can't always be sure of the environment when running something from cron. You might be missing something in the PATH variable or some other environment variable. I guess a question is whether this has worked in the past or is something new that you are trying to do? HTH. Bruce. Bruce J. Senn Phone: (518) 388-6664 Senior System Manager FAX:(518) 388-6458 Union College E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schenectady, NY 12308 WWW: http://www1.union.edu/~sennb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:02 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron Hello, We have a cron job which does the following: 1- Uses Universe's uv.rc script to stop Universe and unirpc daemon 2- Make a backup of the Production account into a different filesystem on the production machine. 3- Restart Universe unirps using the uv.rc script 4- Start the backup to tape of the copy of the production environment. When Universe is re-started along with the unirpc daemon within the cron job, Universe works but the unirpc daemon doesn't work correctly. It must be stopped manually from the uv menu and re-started. Has anyone here encountered a similar problem ? I've tried to get support help from IBM but I get the run-around. I'm told that IBM won't debug my companies script even though I've repeatedly told them that the script we are using the uv.rc script that was written by IBM. We are running Universe 10.1.8 on a HP.UX 11i machine. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron
Is the LANG setting correct (C) ? Senn, Bruce wrote: FWIW, you can't always be sure of the environment when running something from cron. You might be missing something in the PATH variable or some other environment variable. I guess a question is whether this has worked in the past or is something new that you are trying to do? HTH. Bruce. Bruce J. Senn Phone: (518) 388-6664 Senior System Manager FAX:(518) 388-6458 Union College E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schenectady, NY 12308 WWW: http://www1.union.edu/~sennb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:02 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] unirpc daemon, stopping and re-starting it from cron Hello, We have a cron job which does the following: 1- Uses Universe's uv.rc script to stop Universe and unirpc daemon 2- Make a backup of the Production account into a different filesystem on the production machine. 3- Restart Universe unirps using the uv.rc script 4- Start the backup to tape of the copy of the production environment. When Universe is re-started along with the unirpc daemon within the cron job, Universe works but the unirpc daemon doesn't work correctly. It must be stopped manually from the uv menu and re-started. Has anyone here encountered a similar problem ? I've tried to get support help from IBM but I get the run-around. I'm told that IBM won't debug my companies script even though I've repeatedly told them that the script we are using the uv.rc script that was written by IBM. We are running Universe 10.1.8 on a HP.UX 11i machine. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Lembit Pirn 7+7 Software Mustamde tee 4 Tallinn 10621 Estonia phone: +372 6566 232 GSM: +372 5028707 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
