RE: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?

2004-06-21 Thread Karl L Pearson
On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 01:06, Ken Wallis wrote:
> Karl Pearson wrote:
> 
> > Try putting two \\ so the escape will be used as it was meant
> > to be, to
> > keep special characters from being treated like special characters.
> > 
> > I.e. \* \? \\ etc.
> 
> The difficulty is in doing this.  Once the shell has the value with the '\'
> in it, it becomes very hard to manipulate it.
> 
> You might get away with doing a 'tr' or a 'sed' in between the 'find ...
> -print' and the 'while read', but you'd have to be very clever with the
> escaping of your escapes in the sed script or the tr strings.
> 

One other option on Unix is the difference between " and ' quotes. To
force an absolute, use 'TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF' rather than "...". Unix
allows special characters and variables to be 'checked' withint double
quotes, but uses strict string representation within single quotes.

Karl

> Cheers,
> 
> Ken
> 
> > LeRoi Keiller wrote:
> 
> >> Cutdown example of what I'm trying to do (ksh):
> >> 
> >> $ ls TRAN*
> >> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF
> >> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\5-DF
> >>  (note the '\' in the file names)
> >> $ find TRAN* -print | while read file
> >> do
> >>ls -l $file"
> >> done
> >> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF not found
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RE: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?

2004-06-19 Thread Ken Wallis
Karl Pearson wrote:

> Try putting two \\ so the escape will be used as it was meant
> to be, to
> keep special characters from being treated like special characters.
> 
> I.e. \* \? \\ etc.

The difficulty is in doing this.  Once the shell has the value with the '\'
in it, it becomes very hard to manipulate it.

You might get away with doing a 'tr' or a 'sed' in between the 'find ...
-print' and the 'while read', but you'd have to be very clever with the
escaping of your escapes in the sed script or the tr strings.

Cheers,

Ken

> LeRoi Keiller wrote:

>> Cutdown example of what I'm trying to do (ksh):
>> 
>> $ ls TRAN*
>> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF
>> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\5-DF
>>  (note the '\' in the file names)
>> $ find TRAN* -print | while read file
>> do
>>ls -l $file"
>> done
>> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF not found
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RE: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?

2004-06-16 Thread LeRoi Keiller
Wow, the 'for F in...' works a treat, while the xargs option is a bomber.
You would expect xargs would work, but nope.  But thanks for the first
option!

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Hi LeRoi,

Try using something like

for F in `ls TRAN*`
do
   ls -l $F
done

or

ls TRAN* | xargs -t -i ls -l {}

Maybe the read is the offending command that is stripping the backslash
as this would have to parse the data prior to presenting it to the next
command. This would be a bit faster than using the find (unless you have
to)

Regards

David Logan
Database Administrator
HP Managed Services
139 Frome Street,
Adelaide 5000
Australia

+61 8 8408 4273 - Work
+61 417 268 665 - Mobile
+61 8 8408 4259 - Fax



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Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 9:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?


Perhaps a command after the "do":

   tr "\\" "/"

At 02:52 PM 6/10/2004, LeRoi Keiller wrote:
>A number of our uniVerse files have the \ symbol in the file names.
Problem
>is, at unix level, these \ fellows are usually treated as 'escape'
>characters and ignored or removed when you try to reference them.  Eg:
echo
>"hello\there" displays "hellothere".
>
>Does anyone know how to ensure that the unix shell treats these as
literal
>text?  Note that {}, quotes, and double-quotes don't seem to work.
>
>To elaborate (you can ignore this if you like)...
>
>Cutdown example of what I'm trying to do (ksh):
>
>$ ls TRAN*
>TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF
>TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\5-DF
>  (note the '\' in the file names)
>$ find TRAN* -print | while read file
>do
>ls -l $file"
>done
>TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF not found
>
>Note: The 'find' produces the correct names, but subsequent unix
commands
>missinterpret the meaning.  Because the '\' is stripped, the ls command
>tries to list D_TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF instead of
TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF,
>and of course the file is not found.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>LeRoi
>
>LeRoi Keiller
>Technical Support Consultant
>

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Re: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?

2004-06-14 Thread Karl L Pearson
Try putting two \\ so the escape will be used as it was meant to be, to
keep special characters from being treated like special characters.

I.e. \* \? \\ etc.

Karl

On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 15:52, LeRoi Keiller wrote:
> A number of our uniVerse files have the \ symbol in the file names.  Problem
> is, at unix level, these \ fellows are usually treated as 'escape'
> characters and ignored or removed when you try to reference them.  Eg: echo
> "hello\there" displays "hellothere".
> 
> Does anyone know how to ensure that the unix shell treats these as literal
> text?  Note that {}, quotes, and double-quotes don't seem to work.
> 
> To elaborate (you can ignore this if you like)...
> 
> Cutdown example of what I'm trying to do (ksh):
> 
> $ ls TRAN*
> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF
> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\5-DF
>  (note the '\' in the file names)
> $ find TRAN* -print | while read file
> do
>ls -l $file"
> done
> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF not found
> 
> Note: The 'find' produces the correct names, but subsequent unix commands
> missinterpret the meaning.  Because the '\' is stripped, the ls command
> tries to list D_TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF instead of TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF,
> and of course the file is not found.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> LeRoi
> 
> LeRoi Keiller
> Technical Support Consultant
>  
> Ultradata - Vision to Reality
> +61 3 9291 1700
> www.ultradata.com.au
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RE: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?

2004-06-10 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
Hi LeRoi,

Try using something like

for F in `ls TRAN*`
do
   ls -l $F
done

or

ls TRAN* | xargs -t -i ls -l {}

Maybe the read is the offending command that is stripping the backslash
as this would have to parse the data prior to presenting it to the next
command. This would be a bit faster than using the find (unless you have
to)

Regards

David Logan
Database Administrator
HP Managed Services
139 Frome Street,
Adelaide 5000
Australia

+61 8 8408 4273 - Work
+61 417 268 665 - Mobile
+61 8 8408 4259 - Fax



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Walker
Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 9:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; U2-Users (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?


Perhaps a command after the "do":

   tr "\\" "/"

At 02:52 PM 6/10/2004, LeRoi Keiller wrote:
>A number of our uniVerse files have the \ symbol in the file names.
Problem
>is, at unix level, these \ fellows are usually treated as 'escape'
>characters and ignored or removed when you try to reference them.  Eg:
echo
>"hello\there" displays "hellothere".
>
>Does anyone know how to ensure that the unix shell treats these as
literal
>text?  Note that {}, quotes, and double-quotes don't seem to work.
>
>To elaborate (you can ignore this if you like)...
>
>Cutdown example of what I'm trying to do (ksh):
>
>$ ls TRAN*
>TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF
>TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\5-DF
>  (note the '\' in the file names)
>$ find TRAN* -print | while read file
>do
>ls -l $file"
>done
>TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF not found
>
>Note: The 'find' produces the correct names, but subsequent unix
commands
>missinterpret the meaning.  Because the '\' is stripped, the ls command
>tries to list D_TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF instead of
TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF,
>and of course the file is not found.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>LeRoi
>
>LeRoi Keiller
>Technical Support Consultant
>

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RE: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?

2004-06-10 Thread Ray Wurlod
1.  Don't put them there in the first place!

2.  Escape them.  Wherever there's one backslash, replace it with two.  ls 
MyFile\\WithBackslash
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Re: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?

2004-06-10 Thread Kent Walker
Perhaps a command after the "do":
  tr "\\" "/"
At 02:52 PM 6/10/2004, LeRoi Keiller wrote:
A number of our uniVerse files have the \ symbol in the file names.  Problem
is, at unix level, these \ fellows are usually treated as 'escape'
characters and ignored or removed when you try to reference them.  Eg: echo
"hello\there" displays "hellothere".
Does anyone know how to ensure that the unix shell treats these as literal
text?  Note that {}, quotes, and double-quotes don't seem to work.
To elaborate (you can ignore this if you like)...
Cutdown example of what I'm trying to do (ksh):
$ ls TRAN*
TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF
TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\5-DF
 (note the '\' in the file names)
$ find TRAN* -print | while read file
do
   ls -l $file"
done
TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF not found
Note: The 'find' produces the correct names, but subsequent unix commands
missinterpret the meaning.  Because the '\' is stripped, the ls command
tries to list D_TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF instead of TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF,
and of course the file is not found.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
LeRoi
LeRoi Keiller
Technical Support Consultant
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RE: [U2] How keep '\' in unix/uniVerse filenames?

2004-06-10 Thread Ken Wallis
LeRoi Keiller wrote:

> A number of our uniVerse files have the \ symbol in the file
> names.  Problem is, at unix level, these \ fellows are usually treated as
'escape'
> characters

Problem is there are a number of characters which have significant meaning
to pretty much every shell program
that you might use on UNIX and '\' is one of them.  You really want to try
avoiding these special characters if you need to interact with the files via
a shell.

> $ ls TRAN*
> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\4-DF
> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??\5-DF
>  (note the '\' in the file names)
> $ find TRAN* -print | while read file
> do
>ls -l $file"
> done
> TRAN.EXT-14320S1??4-DF not found

If you just want to delete the files then rm -i TRAN* will probably work.
Otherwise you may be better off setting up a VOC pointer to the appropriate
directory so you can see it as a Type 19 file and process the contents in
BASIC.

Cheers,

Ken
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