RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread Brutzman, Bill
IBM has this already...

U2 Personal Editions and Trials (IBM U2 SB+ Personal Edition for UniVerse on
Windows)

--Bill

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The basic 'Direct Connect' terminal emulator is bundled with the U2 windows
client package.

What would be nice is SBClient to be bundled, so the capabilities of SB+ can
be demonstrated.

Cheers,

David Murray


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Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator?  Accuterm for 
instance?

Bruce M Neylon
Health Care Management Group 




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All,
The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will 
soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are 
discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated.

We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of 
business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market 
expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE 
software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful 
information.

Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which 
pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign 
the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing 
the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content 
all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will 
bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, 
files, and programs, etc. are all in place.
 The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the 
U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology 
in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help?

Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread David Wolverton
Actually, I can't imagine giving a new user UD/UV **without** SB+ as a front
end.

It helps users visualize the system use (via the somewhat icky SBDEMO) and
gives a usuable character-based Editor (SE) that is more intuitive to new
users.

But SBClient is ***NOT*** part of the PE package, which is sort of sad, as
all anyone can see is UniData/UniVerse in all their character-based glory.
To get something GUI, IBM forces them to abandon SB+ PE and move directly to
VisualStudio integration. Seems to me they missed the mark on that planning!

DW 

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> Brutzman, Bill
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> 
> IBM has this already...
> 
> U2 Personal Editions and Trials (IBM U2 SB+ Personal Edition 
> for UniVerse on
> Windows)
> 
> --Bill
> 
> What would be nice is SBClient to be bundled, so the 
> capabilities of SB+ can be demonstrated.
> 
> Cheers,
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RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread David Wolverton
I have to correct myself!! SBClient **is** included in the package - but as
a 'demo license' that expires in 60 days.
 
> 
> 
> But SBClient is ***NOT*** part of the PE package, which is 
> sort of sad, as all anyone can see is UniData/UniVerse in all 
> their character-based glory.
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RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread Kevin King
You found an SBClient demo?  Where?


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I have to correct myself!! SBClient **is** included in the package -
but as a 'demo license' that expires in 60 days.
 
> 
> 
> But SBClient is ***NOT*** part of the PE package, which is sort of 
> sad, as all anyone can see is UniData/UniVerse in all their 
> character-based glory.
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RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+

2007-05-10 Thread David Wolverton
AH --- well isn't that stupid of me!  I looked at the download page for
SystemBuilder 5.4.1 here

http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/preconfig.jsp?id=2005-03-31+14
%3A19%3A42.178111R&S_TACT=104CBW71&S_CMP=

And it says "IBM SystemBuilder (SB+ and SBClient) enables rapid application
development with flexible deployment options for the IBM UniVerseR and IBM
UniDataR (U2) MultiValue data servers."

Foolish me!  I thought the download included SBClient!  It does NOT!

Thanks Kevin for the heads up!

David W. 

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> You found an SBClient demo?  Where?
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> -Kevin
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