RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names
Holy cow. Um, thanks for the concern. Now that this thread has gone non-technical, I'll be the first to request its termination. Best, T --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names
That could be the answer to my question. Tony, you've got to slow down. We all enjoy your posts on this list and you would be missed, but, life is too short, smell some roses. You and I don't know each other personally but I can tell by your writing that you should probably take a vacation instead of paying for a doctor to take one. Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 3:35 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names I enjoy Tonys insights, what I dont understand is how he ever finds the time to post such long responses not only in here but in cdp and on his own blog as well -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: 04 October 2008 16:47 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names Nah, Tony's solid. A bit stressed out - aren't we all? - and amazingly comprehensive in his explanations, but SOLID overall. Then again, not like he needs my endorsement... On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:59 PM, JPB-U2UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not offensive, I just think he sounds angry in a lot of his emails. He > really should watch his blood pressure. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 01/10/2008 09:05 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names
I enjoy Tonys insights, what I dont understand is how he ever finds the time to post such long responses not only in here but in cdp and on his own blog as well -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: 04 October 2008 16:47 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names Nah, Tony's solid. A bit stressed out - aren't we all? - and amazingly comprehensive in his explanations, but SOLID overall. Then again, not like he needs my endorsement... On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:59 PM, JPB-U2UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not offensive, I just think he sounds angry in a lot of his emails. He > really should watch his blood pressure. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release Date: 01/10/2008 09:05 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names
Nah, Tony's solid. A bit stressed out - aren't we all? - and amazingly comprehensive in his explanations, but SOLID overall. Then again, not like he needs my endorsement... On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:59 PM, JPB-U2UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not offensive, I just think he sounds angry in a lot of his emails. He > really should watch his blood pressure. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names
Not offensive, I just think he sounds angry in a lot of his emails. He really should watch his blood pressure. -- From: "Allen Egerton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 5:52 PM To: Subject: Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names jpb-u2ug wrote: Do you wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning? Um, I'm not sure why you found what Tony wrote offensive. I thought it was a reasonable presentation of his point of view. -- Allen Egerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 860-912-8067 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names
jpb-u2ug wrote: Do you wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning? Um, I'm not sure why you found what Tony wrote offensive. I thought it was a reasonable presentation of his point of view. -- Allen Egerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 860-912-8067 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names
Do you wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning? Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony G Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 3:59 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] RE: spaces in file names For reference, Windows still stores path/file names internally in short 8.3 format. Support for long names and additional characters was added in Windows 95 as an abstraction (a view) over that for common usage where non-technical people want to use file names like: "J. Jones Budget, 2007-2008 (revised).doc" "Chelsea smashed! at homecoming '07.jpg" Windows was designed to be an operating system for home users and later became a server. (Most people forget that "PC" stands for "Personal Computer".) Macintosh supported long, friendly filenames back in 1984 for the same reasons. Unix is a system for engineers, not intended to be used by people creating OS-level filenames for their docs or pictures. Now, just to be clear, I didn't suggest that DBMS files should be allowed to have spaces in them, like "CUSTOMER MASTER". I was giving IBM a little grief for not making use of a file system enhancement which was added to Windows 13 years ago so that we can put IBM programs under "Program Files". There's no need for *nix compatibility at this level, commands like uv, udt, UniAdmin, and the UniSDK tools are all platform-specific, OS-level programs, and have nothing to do with the data in the DBMS. It's almost understandable that paths to data may give the DBMS grief if they contain spaces, like: D:\Data Sources\ABC Company\UV\Accounts\WAREHOUSE But even in this case, if ported to *nix anyone would know to move that to something more appropriate like: /home/data/abc_company/uv/acccounts/WAREHOUSE In either case, the DBMS-level file system should abstract the MV DBA from OS-level issues. For example, we should be allowed to create files like the following without OS-related issues: .TEMP OPEN-A/R CUSTMAST*DEPT That said, the CREATE.FILE verb should also prevent the creation of filenames that are commonly agreed as being "a bad idea", like "CUSTOMER MASTER". As always (like case sensitivity) this whole situation is just another case of engineers who decide not to make changes because they "speak Unix" and they expect the rest of the world to do so as well. The burden is not on them to make software work for the target OS but on developers to have to know how another OS works so that they understand why their own platform isn't working. That's just lazy and backwards thinking. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
