RE: [U2] U2.NET question
TBH I have not tried particularly hard, but i have never been given any meaty details about u2.net. A comparison between it and mv.net would be good. I am very interested in mv.net (and u2.net for that matter) but have not (knowingly) had reason to use it just yet, one day tho ... -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony G Sent: 20 March 2009 01:03 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] U2.NET question [AD], information, and an inquiry below. From: Mike Randall One thing I've noticed is that the names for the various products are very convoluted. They have U2.Net, Mv.Net, Uniobjects.Net, yada yada yada. The free tool is the .Net Data Provider. I'm using that to link U2 to the .Net apps. Mike, based on your notes in this posting: http://www.mail-archive.com/u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org/msg26408 .html I believe you're using the product described here: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/data/library/techarticle/dm-071 1kumar/ Looking for those links I found this interesting 3-part blog by someone coming at U2 from a relational perspective: http://gigamegatech.com/2008/11/25/visual-studio-and-ibm-univers e-playing-the-matchmaker/ I haven't read it yet, but from what I see I think it's a shame this guy had to beat his head against a wall to do something so simple. Let's quickly separate out the products and raise a little hell while we're at it. I hope someone will correct me if any this isn't accurate: - UniObjects: A non-.NET library providing basic connectivity for file open, read, write, and execute of server-side code. - UO.NET: A managed .NET implementation of UO, not just a wrapper, providing basically the same functions. - U2 .NET Data Provider: Library for those more familiar with relational databases. - mv.NET: Non-IBM product from BlueFinity International ([ad] sold and supported worldwide by Nebula RD) that provides three libraries: -- one which is a superset of UO.NET, -- another which is similar to the the U2 Data Provider for a relational perspective -- and another one that provides direct binding of DBMS data to visual components. As an example of how mv.NET is a superset of UO.NET, mv.NET uses UO.NET as the basic (but very capable) connectivity pipe into U2. If you just need basic functionality then as I've told a couple prospects recently, just stick with UO.NET. - U2.NET: This is an old version of mv.NET for which IBM purchased the source, limited some of the features, and then rebranded for distribution to U2 developers. They took out the cross-platform compatibility and made changes to the connection pooling capabilities. While based on mv.NET, to my knowledge there is no agreement to get the new features which have already been added to mv.NET or those planned for mv.NET future releases. I thought IBM was going to give U2.NET to everyone like UO.NET. If so, OK, less features but one package for most uses - that's probably a good deal. If they're going to charge for it as Ken says, then I guess I should put together a table that compares the features and pricing of these products. Does anyone have a good source for this data? Is there a roadmap of future enhancements for U2.NET anywhere? HTH Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] U2.NET question
Cliff - U2.Net is a separately licenced product with developer and runtime licences. Ken Hall Ken R. Hall Consultants. Portland, Oregon At 11:50 AM 3/19/2009, you wrote: Hi, all. Is U2.NET included with (in this case) UniVerse like UniObjects.NET is, or is it a separate priced product like U2 Web DE (aka Redback)? Thanks. Regards, Clif --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] U2.NET question
One thing I've noticed is that the names for the various products are very convoluted. They have U2.Net, Mv.Net, Uniobjects.Net, yada yada yada. The free tool is the .Net Data Provider. I'm using that to link U2 to the .Net apps. Mike Randall, MCP -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Clifton Oliver Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:50 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] U2.NET question Hi, all. Is U2.NET included with (in this case) UniVerse like UniObjects.NET is, or is it a separate priced product like U2 Web DE (aka Redback)? Thanks. Regards, Clif -- W. Clifton Oliver, CCP CLIFTON OLIVER ASSOCIATES Tel: +1 619 460 5678Web: www.oliver.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] U2.NET question
[AD], information, and an inquiry below. From: Mike Randall One thing I've noticed is that the names for the various products are very convoluted. They have U2.Net, Mv.Net, Uniobjects.Net, yada yada yada. The free tool is the .Net Data Provider. I'm using that to link U2 to the .Net apps. Mike, based on your notes in this posting: http://www.mail-archive.com/u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org/msg26408 .html I believe you're using the product described here: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/data/library/techarticle/dm-071 1kumar/ Looking for those links I found this interesting 3-part blog by someone coming at U2 from a relational perspective: http://gigamegatech.com/2008/11/25/visual-studio-and-ibm-univers e-playing-the-matchmaker/ I haven't read it yet, but from what I see I think it's a shame this guy had to beat his head against a wall to do something so simple. Let's quickly separate out the products and raise a little hell while we're at it. I hope someone will correct me if any this isn't accurate: - UniObjects: A non-.NET library providing basic connectivity for file open, read, write, and execute of server-side code. - UO.NET: A managed .NET implementation of UO, not just a wrapper, providing basically the same functions. - U2 .NET Data Provider: Library for those more familiar with relational databases. - mv.NET: Non-IBM product from BlueFinity International ([ad] sold and supported worldwide by Nebula RD) that provides three libraries: -- one which is a superset of UO.NET, -- another which is similar to the the U2 Data Provider for a relational perspective -- and another one that provides direct binding of DBMS data to visual components. As an example of how mv.NET is a superset of UO.NET, mv.NET uses UO.NET as the basic (but very capable) connectivity pipe into U2. If you just need basic functionality then as I've told a couple prospects recently, just stick with UO.NET. - U2.NET: This is an old version of mv.NET for which IBM purchased the source, limited some of the features, and then rebranded for distribution to U2 developers. They took out the cross-platform compatibility and made changes to the connection pooling capabilities. While based on mv.NET, to my knowledge there is no agreement to get the new features which have already been added to mv.NET or those planned for mv.NET future releases. I thought IBM was going to give U2.NET to everyone like UO.NET. If so, OK, less features but one package for most uses - that's probably a good deal. If they're going to charge for it as Ken says, then I guess I should put together a table that compares the features and pricing of these products. Does anyone have a good source for this data? Is there a roadmap of future enhancements for U2.NET anywhere? HTH Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
