RE: [U2] UD Backups - DBPAUSE for UniVerse? [not-secure]

2007-07-05 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
snip

I am still not finding any real documentation details on
UV's SUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF.

/snip

As an aside, I suspect you are suffering from the poor organization of the 
UniVerse documentation. I would expect something like this to be in a guide for 
administrators, yet SUSPEND.FILE is documented is the user reference. (It does 
get one sentence in the Administering UniVerse guide...)... Then there are 
items in the System Description that should be somewhere else. It's one thing 
to use the system description to talk about the existence of file triggers, but 
to use that as the place to document the whole functionality it counter 
intuitive.
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RE: [U2] UD Backups - DBPAUSE for UniVerse? [not-secure]

2007-07-05 Thread Ron Sharcott
I thought DBPAUSE allowed running processes to finish but would hold new
processes . That's not much of a pause when you think that a process
could be running for hours before the system is truly paused.

From the online help:
dbpause is a UniData system-level command that blocks most updates
to the database made in a UniData session. Any updates made from
the operating system level are not blocked. You can use this feature
to perform some tasks that normally require UniData to be stopped,
such as backing up your data.
When the dbpause command is issued, all current writes and transactions
complete before
UniData pauses. Updates are blocked until the system administrator
executes the dbresume command.


Ron Sharcott (3635)


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snip

I am still not finding any real documentation details on
UV's SUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF.

/snip

As an aside, I suspect you are suffering from the poor organization of
the UniVerse documentation. I would expect something like this to be in
a guide for administrators, yet SUSPEND.FILE is documented is the user
reference. (It does get one sentence in the Administering UniVerse
guide...)... Then there are items in the System Description that
should be somewhere else. It's one thing to use the system description
to talk about the existence of file triggers, but to use that as the
place to document the whole functionality it counter intuitive.
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RE: [U2] UD Backups - DBPAUSE for UniVerse? [not-secure]

2007-07-05 Thread Timothy Snyder
 I thought DBPAUSE allowed running processes to finish but would hold new
 processes . That's not much of a pause when you think that a process
 could be running for hours before the system is truly paused.

Fortunately, that's not true.  Only pending writes are processed, not 
entire programs.  Committed transactions are processed, uncommitted 
transactions are temporarily rolled back.  Processes that attempt new 
updates after dbpause is issued will appear to be hung.  As soon as 
dbresume is issued, they pick up at the update.  Processes performing read 
operations continue along their merry way.

As a rule, control returns from dbpause to its invoking process in a few 
seconds, although it could be a bit longer if there are many pending 
updates or if it takes a long time for the disk subsystem to catch up.

Tim Snyder
Consulting I/T Specialist
U2 Lab Services
Information Management, IBM Software Group
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