RE: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-14 Thread Ralph Burton
Hi Bob,
   
  >As a side note, OI is going to be able to run AREV apps, directly, and
allow you to slowly modify the UI, piece by piece. In my opinion, it's
long over due, but I'm excited they are coming out with this capability.

Me too!
   
  Ralph


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RE: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-14 Thread Bob Woodward
Hi Ralph,

I came from AREV into Universe and you're right about the screen builder
process.  I miss that functionality A LOT, too.  The original question
was about R/Basic, specifically, which is what my comment was about.  I
use to work for RTI before they moved the development from Bellevue, WA.
I agree with you, also, that AREV is wonderful.

As a side note, OI is going to be able to run AREV apps, directly, and
allow you to slowly modify the UI, piece by piece.  In my opinion, it's
long over due, but I'm excited they are coming out with this capability.
I'm excited to test it, too, as soon as I can get my hands on it.  You
should be able to get some direct info from their web site.  

BobW
 
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Subject: RE: [U2] Arev commands

Bob,
   
  IMHO, even for a Universe programmer, there'd still be a slight
learning curve using the screen builder.  The dictionary/file formats
are almost identical too. AREV was/is a wonderful product.
   
  I'm hoping Revelation as they now have offered a character mode with
Open Insight will allow in the future the ability to run AREV
applications.  Then slowly rebuild the screens in OI.
   
  Ralph

Bob Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  For the most part, R/Basic commands are very similar to the Universe
Basic commands. There are very subtle differences but nothing really
major. If you can work in Universe, you'll do just find in AREV.

BobW

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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:19 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Arev commands

Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced
Revelations
R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program and
would
like to see what some of the command syntax is compared to UV.

Jerry Banker
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Re: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-14 Thread Jerry Banker
Since we don't use the program here and it's not a product that will be 
supported in the future I don't think I'll be interested. I was just looking 
to see if there is a repository of commands from the various flavors of PICK 
on the net. Obviously there is not. Maybe that could be a project for the 
U2UG to produce a book of commands. Sort of like a language translation 
dictionary. I noticed that Arev uses the OSREAD statement which is similar 
to what is used in Unidata but Universe doesn't have it, they use READSEQ.


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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:19 AM
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I have a complete set of AREV manuals and disks for AREV OS/2.  If
your willing to pay the postage, I'm willing to put it in a box and
send it to you.

Thanks,
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RE: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-14 Thread Ralph Burton
Bob,
   
  IMHO, even for a Universe programmer, there'd still be a slight learning 
curve using the screen builder.  The dictionary/file formats are almost 
identical too. AREV was/is a wonderful product.
   
  I'm hoping Revelation as they now have offered a character mode with Open 
Insight will allow in the future the ability to run AREV applications.  Then 
slowly rebuild the screens in OI.
   
  Ralph

Bob Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  For the most part, R/Basic commands are very similar to the Universe
Basic commands. There are very subtle differences but nothing really
major. If you can work in Universe, you'll do just find in AREV.

BobW

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Subject: [U2] Arev commands

Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced
Revelations
R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program and
would
like to see what some of the command syntax is compared to UV.

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Re: [U2] Arev commands - Where's the original message?

2005-12-14 Thread Jerry Banker

It is but even I didn't receive my original message.

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To: "U2 User Group Mailing List" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:41 AM
Subject: Fwd: [U2] Arev commands - Where's the original message?


Isn't the following the original message to this thread? (from the bottom 
up)



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Subject: Re: [U2] Arev commands


Well there was this one command that looked something like this:

start = 1
a = trim(rec[start,"F,"])

and I was wondering if it was using some kind of correlative to get the
length or if the brackets are used differently in Arev. Also, I would just
like to have a command reference for all of the various flavors of Pick so
if I need to convert a program from one flavor to another I could.

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Arev commands



I dont believe there really is one. Also it really depends on which
revision level of arev you are running.

is there any syntax/statement/function in particular you need

Rich

Jerry Banker wrote:


Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced
Revelations
R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program and
would
like to see what some of the command syntax is compared to UV.

Jerry Banker

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Re: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-14 Thread Don Kibbey
I have a complete set of AREV manuals and disks for AREV OS/2.  If
your willing to pay the postage, I'm willing to put it in a box and
send it to you.

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RE: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-13 Thread David Jordan
Note there was, although I have not checked recently an Arev conversion
utility on the UniVerse installation disks.

Regards

David Jordan
Managing Consultant
 

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RE: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-13 Thread Keith W. Roberts
How interesting.  And sed-like.

-Keith

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Richard A. Wilson
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> I've never used this syntax but according to the manual
> 
> if the send expression begins with F then return all
> characters from the
> starting position until the 2nd character of the F expression is found
> 
> example
> 
> REC = 'ABCDEF,HIJK'
> A=TRIM(REC[1,'F,'])
> A would equal ABCDEF (i.e. until the comma)
> 
> note there is also "Bx" which searches backwards
> 
> I'm not aware of any on-line/pdf/etc manuals for Rev. you
> maybe able to do
> searches on www.revelation.com knowledge base section, but I
> dont think you'll
> find a single document that has the command reference manual
> you are looking for.
> 
> fortunately I'm a packrat & have manuals going back to the 70's.
> Sometimes its a dirty job digging them out from storage, but I keep
> important 
> ones handy
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry Banker wrote:
> 
>> Well there was this one command that looked something like this:
>> 
>> start = 1
>> a = trim(rec[start,"F,"])
>> 
>> and I was wondering if it was using some kind of correlative to get
>> the length or if the brackets are used differently in Arev. Also, I
>> would just like to have a command reference for all of the various
>> flavors of Pick so if I need to convert a program from one flavor to
>> another I could. 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Richard A. Wilson"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [U2] Arev commands
>> 
>> 
>>> I dont believe there really is one. Also it really depends on which
>>> revision level of arev you are running.
>>> 
>>> is there any syntax/statement/function in particular you need
>>> 
>>> Rich
>>> 
>>> Jerry Banker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced
>>>> Revelations R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking
>>>> at a program and would like to see what some of the command syntax
>>>> is compared to UV. 
>>>> 
>>>> Jerry Banker
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RE: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-13 Thread Tom Dodds
Jerry, you should be able to use the F1 key for help.  I learned the entire
Arev system through the F1 key.  They have wonderful online, contextual
help.  They also have a web site at
http://www.revtechnologies.com/Default.aspx
And a support list available at that address.

hth

Tom Dodds
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630-235-2975 Cell

> Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced Revelations
> R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program and
would
> like to see what some of the command syntax is compared to UV.
> 
> Jerry Banker
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RE: [U2] Arev commands - Where's the original message?

2005-12-13 Thread Tom Dodds
Yes, it happens often, and I respond the same,  by not looking if I already
delete it.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:36 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Arev commands - Where's the original message?

Ok, did anyone else get the replies but not the original message?  I notice
I don't always get the original message, usually I think, I've just deleted
it and don't remember doing it and I'm too busy to check the deleted folder.


However, this time for sure I did not get the original message and neither
did my co-workers.  Just wondering if it happens to anyone else on the list.


Brenda Price
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Arev commands


Well there was this one command that looked something like this:

start = 1
a = trim(rec[start,"F,"])

and I was wondering if it was using some kind of correlative to get the 
length or if the brackets are used differently in Arev. Also, I would just 
like to have a command reference for all of the various flavors of Pick so 
if I need to convert a program from one flavor to another I could.

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard A. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Arev commands


>I dont believe there really is one. Also it really depends on which 
>revision level of arev you are running.
>
> is there any syntax/statement/function in particular you need
>
> Rich
>
> Jerry Banker wrote:
>
>> Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced 
>> Revelations
>> R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program and 
>> would
>> like to see what some of the command syntax is compared to UV.
>>
>> Jerry Banker
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RE: [U2] Arev commands - Where's the original message?

2005-12-13 Thread Brenda Price
Ok, did anyone else get the replies but not the original message?  I notice I 
don't always get the original message, usually I think, I've just deleted it 
and don't remember doing it and I'm too busy to check the deleted folder. 

However, this time for sure I did not get the original message and neither did 
my co-workers.  Just wondering if it happens to anyone else on the list.  

Brenda Price
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:51 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Arev commands


Well there was this one command that looked something like this:

start = 1
a = trim(rec[start,"F,"])

and I was wondering if it was using some kind of correlative to get the 
length or if the brackets are used differently in Arev. Also, I would just 
like to have a command reference for all of the various flavors of Pick so 
if I need to convert a program from one flavor to another I could.

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard A. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Arev commands


>I dont believe there really is one. Also it really depends on which 
>revision level of arev you are running.
>
> is there any syntax/statement/function in particular you need
>
> Rich
>
> Jerry Banker wrote:
>
>> Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced 
>> Revelations
>> R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program and 
>> would
>> like to see what some of the command syntax is compared to UV.
>>
>> Jerry Banker
>> ---
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>> u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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>>
>
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RE: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-13 Thread Bob Woodward
For the most part, R/Basic commands are very similar to the Universe
Basic commands.  There are very subtle differences but nothing really
major.  If you can work in Universe, you'll do just find in AREV.

BobW
 
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Subject: [U2] Arev commands

Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced
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R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program and
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Re: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-13 Thread Richard A. Wilson

I've never used this syntax but according to the manual

if the send expression begins with F then return all characters from the 
starting position until the 2nd character of the F expression is found


example

REC = 'ABCDEF,HIJK'
A=TRIM(REC[1,'F,'])
A would equal ABCDEF (i.e. until the comma)

note there is also "Bx" which searches backwards

I'm not aware of any on-line/pdf/etc manuals for Rev. you maybe able to do 
searches on www.revelation.com knowledge base section, but I dont think you'll 
find a single document that has the command reference manual you are looking for.


fortunately I'm a packrat & have manuals going back to the 70's. Sometimes its a 
dirty job digging them out from storage, but I keep important ones handy


Rich



Jerry Banker wrote:


Well there was this one command that looked something like this:

start = 1
a = trim(rec[start,"F,"])

and I was wondering if it was using some kind of correlative to get the 
length or if the brackets are used differently in Arev. Also, I would 
just like to have a command reference for all of the various flavors of 
Pick so if I need to convert a program from one flavor to another I could.


- Original Message - From: "Richard A. Wilson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Arev commands


I dont believe there really is one. Also it really depends on which 
revision level of arev you are running.


is there any syntax/statement/function in particular you need

Rich

Jerry Banker wrote:

Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced 
Revelations
R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program 
and would

like to see what some of the command syntax is compared to UV.

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Re: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-13 Thread Jerry Banker

Well there was this one command that looked something like this:

start = 1
a = trim(rec[start,"F,"])

and I was wondering if it was using some kind of correlative to get the 
length or if the brackets are used differently in Arev. Also, I would just 
like to have a command reference for all of the various flavors of Pick so 
if I need to convert a program from one flavor to another I could.


- Original Message - 
From: "Richard A. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Arev commands


I dont believe there really is one. Also it really depends on which 
revision level of arev you are running.


is there any syntax/statement/function in particular you need

Rich

Jerry Banker wrote:

Anybody know where I could get an on-line copy of the Advanced 
Revelations
R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program and 
would

like to see what some of the command syntax is compared to UV.

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Re: [U2] Arev commands

2005-12-13 Thread Richard A. Wilson
I dont believe there really is one. Also it really depends on which revision 
level of arev you are running.


is there any syntax/statement/function in particular you need

Rich

Jerry Banker wrote:


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R/Basic commands? We don't have ARev but I was looking at a program and would
like to see what some of the command syntax is compared to UV.

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