Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread alex phillips
so is confidence low that it would work on a long shot?

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On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Danny Taylor 
wrote:

> We are on a tower that has a lot of 5ghz noise. We had already put up 8
> ap's with 20mhz channels and one airfiber 5x on a 40mhz channel. Not to
> mention a competitor that is on another tower within a mile also using
> 5ghz. So with this being a short shot we decided to try it and it worked
> great. That is generally the reason other than the obvious reason of not
> having the money to license the shot yet.
>
> Danny Taylor
> Legacy ISP
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>
> On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor" 
> wrote:
>
>> We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it was
>> running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the
>> environment we use them.
>>
>> Danny Taylor
>> Legacy ISP
>> 972-268-1696
>> 866-866-9986
>> Legacyisp.com 
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am just wondering if its a viable option.
>>
>> Thanks
>> *Alex Phillips*
>> CEO and General Manager
>> RBNS.net 
>> HighSpeedLink.net 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread Danny Taylor
We are on a tower that has a lot of 5ghz noise. We had already put up 8 ap's 
with 20mhz channels and one airfiber 5x on a 40mhz channel. Not to mention a 
competitor that is on another tower within a mile also using 5ghz. So with this 
being a short shot we decided to try it and it worked great. That is generally 
the reason other than the obvious reason of not having the money to license the 
shot yet. 

Danny Taylor 
Legacy ISP
972-268-1696
866-866-9986
Legacyisp.com

> On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor"  wrote:
>> We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it was 
>> running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the 
>> environment we use them. 
>> 
>> Danny Taylor 
>> Legacy ISP
>> 972-268-1696
>> 866-866-9986
>> Legacyisp.com
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am just wondering if its a viable option.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Alex Phillips
>>> CEO and General Manager
>>> RBNS.net
>>> HighSpeedLink.net
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>>> WISPA President (2015-2016)
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

oh, and it is raining.  like - pouring
so good test :)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  Signal results?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 6:17 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"  wrote:


FYI - we put a 3 ghz AF 3 up today.  About 2 miles - through trees.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  I figured that was your case, just curious if the same was true for 
Danny.  Or everyone for that matter.  I would expect with that kind of signal 5 
GHz would have been an option in 5.4 (lots more spectrum).

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 5:28 PM, "alex phillips"  wrote:

I am in a heavy 5ghz area so AF5 is hard to get working.   We have 
AF24HD but at 3miles we get rain fade.   I have an 11Ghz mimosa now and its 
running fine but I need a back up.  AF3 would be great but not in my area cuz I 
am in an exclusion zone.   This is also a heavy 2.4ghz area so would AF2 just 
barrel through it or is it going to be not usable. 


I would like to know more about others experiences and how they have 
used it.


Alex Phillips
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net 
WISPA.org Board of Directors  (2011-2016)
WISPA President (2015-2016)
540-908-3993



On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor"  
wrote:

We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it 
was running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the 
environment we use them. 

Danny Taylor  
Legacy ISP
972-268-1696
866-866-9986
Legacyisp.com

On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips 
 wrote:


  I am just wondering if its a viable option. 


  Thanks

  Alex Phillips
  CEO and General Manager
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  HighSpeedLink.net 
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  WISPA President (2015-2016)
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

still tweaking.  mid 50s it looks like.
40 mhz channel
getting 6x modulation and 150/150

now i might should go read the manual.

i haven't set anything up on advanced yet
* automatic power backoff
* enhanced mimo

guessing we can get even more out of it


  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  Signal results?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 6:17 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"  wrote:


FYI - we put a 3 ghz AF 3 up today.  About 2 miles - through trees.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  I figured that was your case, just curious if the same was true for 
Danny.  Or everyone for that matter.  I would expect with that kind of signal 5 
GHz would have been an option in 5.4 (lots more spectrum).

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 5:28 PM, "alex phillips"  wrote:

I am in a heavy 5ghz area so AF5 is hard to get working.   We have 
AF24HD but at 3miles we get rain fade.   I have an 11Ghz mimosa now and its 
running fine but I need a back up.  AF3 would be great but not in my area cuz I 
am in an exclusion zone.   This is also a heavy 2.4ghz area so would AF2 just 
barrel through it or is it going to be not usable. 


I would like to know more about others experiences and how they have 
used it.


Alex Phillips
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net 
WISPA.org Board of Directors  (2011-2016)
WISPA President (2015-2016)
540-908-3993



On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor"  
wrote:

We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it 
was running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the 
environment we use them. 

Danny Taylor  
Legacy ISP
972-268-1696
866-866-9986
Legacyisp.com

On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips 
 wrote:


  I am just wondering if its a viable option. 


  Thanks

  Alex Phillips
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Signal results?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
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On Jul 27, 2016 6:17 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> FYI - we put a 3 ghz AF 3 up today.  About 2 miles - through trees.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?
>
> I figured that was your case, just curious if the same was true for
> Danny.  Or everyone for that matter.  I would expect with that kind of
> signal 5 GHz would have been an option in 5.4 (lots more spectrum).
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jul 27, 2016 5:28 PM, "alex phillips"  wrote:
>
>> I am in a heavy 5ghz area so AF5 is hard to get working.   We have AF24HD
>> but at 3miles we get rain fade.   I have an 11Ghz mimosa now and its
>> running fine but I need a back up.  AF3 would be great but not in my area
>> cuz I am in an exclusion zone.   This is also a heavy 2.4ghz area so would
>> AF2 just barrel through it or is it going to be not usable.
>>
>> I would like to know more about others experiences and how they have used
>> it.
>>
>> *Alex Phillips*
>> CEO and General Manager
>> RBNS.net
>> HighSpeedLink.net
>> *WISPA.org Board of Directors ** (2011-2016)*
>> *WISPA President (2015-2016)*
>> *540-908-3993 <540-908-3993>*
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it was
 running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the
 environment we use them.

 Danny Taylor
 Legacy ISP
 972-268-1696
 866-866-9986
 Legacyisp.com 

 On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips 
 wrote:

 I am just wondering if its a viable option.

 Thanks
 *Alex Phillips*
 CEO and General Manager
 RBNS.net 
 HighSpeedLink.net 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

FYI - we put a 3 ghz AF 3 up today.  About 2 miles - through trees.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?


  I figured that was your case, just curious if the same was true for Danny.  
Or everyone for that matter.  I would expect with that kind of signal 5 GHz 
would have been an option in 5.4 (lots more spectrum).

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 5:28 PM, "alex phillips"  wrote:

I am in a heavy 5ghz area so AF5 is hard to get working.   We have AF24HD 
but at 3miles we get rain fade.   I have an 11Ghz mimosa now and its running 
fine but I need a back up.  AF3 would be great but not in my area cuz I am in 
an exclusion zone.   This is also a heavy 2.4ghz area so would AF2 just barrel 
through it or is it going to be not usable.


I would like to know more about others experiences and how they have used 
it.


Alex Phillips
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net
WISPA.org Board of Directors  (2011-2016)
WISPA President (2015-2016)
540-908-3993



On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor"  
wrote:

We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it was 
running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the 
environment we use them. 

Danny Taylor 
Legacy ISP
972-268-1696
866-866-9986
Legacyisp.com

On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips  
wrote:


  I am just wondering if its a viable option.


  Thanks

  Alex Phillips
  CEO and General Manager
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  HighSpeedLink.net
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  WISPA President (2015-2016)
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Before going to those forum's I'd do some pretty disgusting hateful
things.  Then have my correct responses deleted again.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Jul 27, 2016 5:26 PM, "Salvador Bertenbreiter via Ubnt_users" <
ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:

> There are many users AF2X, you can find a examples (in Spanish, but you
> can use Google Translator)
> https://forum-es.ubnt.com/discussion/1282434/2-4ghz-el-ave-fenix-vuelve-a-la-batalla#latest
> and if you check comments, there are some other users that have shared
> their screenshots.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Salvador
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it was
>>> running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the
>>> environment we use them.
>>>
>>> Danny Taylor
>>> Legacy ISP
>>> 972-268-1696
>>> 866-866-9986
>>> Legacyisp.com 
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am just wondering if its a viable option.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> *Alex Phillips*
>>> CEO and General Manager
>>> RBNS.net 
>>> HighSpeedLink.net 
>>> *WISPA.org  Board of Directors ** (2011-2016)*
>>> *WISPA President (2015-2016)*
>>> *540-908-3993 <540-908-3993>*
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread alex phillips
I am in a heavy 5ghz area so AF5 is hard to get working.   We have AF24HD
but at 3miles we get rain fade.   I have an 11Ghz mimosa now and its
running fine but I need a back up.  AF3 would be great but not in my area
cuz I am in an exclusion zone.   This is also a heavy 2.4ghz area so would
AF2 just barrel through it or is it going to be not usable.

I would like to know more about others experiences and how they have used
it.

*Alex Phillips*
CEO and General Manager
RBNS.net
HighSpeedLink.net
*WISPA.org Board of Directors ** (2011-2016)*
*WISPA President (2015-2016)*
*540-908-3993*

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor" 
> wrote:
>
>> We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it was
>> running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the
>> environment we use them.
>>
>> Danny Taylor
>> Legacy ISP
>> 972-268-1696
>> 866-866-9986
>> Legacyisp.com 
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am just wondering if its a viable option.
>>
>> Thanks
>> *Alex Phillips*
>> CEO and General Manager
>> RBNS.net 
>> HighSpeedLink.net 
>> *WISPA.org  Board of Directors ** (2011-2016)*
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Why did you do 2 GHz instead of 5 GHz though?

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On Jul 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Danny Taylor"  wrote:

> We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it was
> running 8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the
> environment we use them.
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> I am just wondering if its a viable option.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread Danny Taylor
We use them for a few 2-3 mile backhauls. Put one up today and it was running 
8x on a 50mhz channel. -43 pushing 280x80. Works great in the environment we 
use them. 

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> On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:48 PM, alex phillips  wrote:
> 
> I am just wondering if its a viable option.
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Has anyone deployed it outside of their air conditioned office


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On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users <
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> Yeah, it's awesome!
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:48 PM, alex phillips 
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>> I am just wondering if its a viable option.
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Has anyone use AF2x 2.4ghz Air Fiber?

2016-07-27 Thread Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users
Yeah, it's awesome!

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:48 PM, alex phillips 
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> I am just wondering if its a viable option.
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