Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems

2018-01-19 Thread RickG 
True. I'm now dealing with a bunch of my 900MHz towers doing the same thing
:(

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Really weird that both pig tails have the exact same level of problems,
> though.  Both chains dropped from 60s to 80s to 95+ and the link obviously
> disappeared.  The signals reported on the AirOS interface, I mean.
>
> Spectrum scan still shows -50 to nearby APs and -60 on the BH frequency.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:52 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :(
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This came back up...exact same issue.  Definitely not ice today!
>>>
>>> Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine.  Both sides see each
>>> other at -60ish.  It attempts to register and fail
>>>
>>> Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice!  Also higher
 modulation...


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
 lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some links with ice that
> get affected and some that didn't, very strange sometimes, just have high
> link margins is about the only thing you can do.
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Right on the money.  Back up to 61 now.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well I thought exactly that at first but I do have radomes and
>>> another north/south link that has 0 change.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 If you have a backhaul covered in ice i can almost guarantee that
 the ice is causing your signal being down, seen this a couple winters 
 ago
 on an AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed until the 
 ice
 melts off..

 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Had a wind/storm and everything come through, wind picked up at
> 4am and 4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a bit later down to 80 db.
> Everything is covered in ice.  BH is 12.5 miles north/south.
>
> Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south (in line with the af5x)
> with no problems.  Ruled out thermal inversion or anything because of 
> this.
>
> Any ideas besides bad jumpers/water or the dish got moved?  It was
> only 25 mph winds, which admittedly is pretty faster for here, but 
> just
> wanted to bounce ideas before climbing.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems

2018-01-19 Thread Josh Luthman 
What a weird bug.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 19, 2018 9:18 PM, "Nick Bright"  wrote:

> No, it just took me a while to notice that "CONDUCTED" showed an absurd
> negative number, instead of +19dBm.
>
> On 1/19/2018 8:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> But the GUI said it was normal?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 19, 2018 9:16 PM, "Nick Bright"  wrote:
>
>> I had a similar problem with an AF3X not connecting; turned out that
>> after updating to OS 4v, it decided to back off the conducted TX power to
>> like -26 or something stupid. It basically wasn't transmitting.
>>
>> I had to set the antennas to 0 gain and manually calculate the correct
>> transmit power limit to get the link back up.
>>
>> On 1/19/2018 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Really weird that both pig tails have the exact same level of problems,
>> though.  Both chains dropped from 60s to 80s to 95+ and the link obviously
>> disappeared.  The signals reported on the AirOS interface, I mean.
>>
>> Spectrum scan still shows -50 to nearby APs and -60 on the BH frequency.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:52 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>
>>> I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :(
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 This came back up...exact same issue.  Definitely not ice today!

 Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine.  Both sides see
 each other at -60ish.  It attempts to register and fail

 Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
 wrote:

> Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice!  Also higher
> modulation...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some links with ice that
>> get affected and some that didn't, very strange sometimes, just have high
>> link margins is about the only thing you can do.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Right on the money.  Back up to 61 now.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman" <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Well I thought exactly that at first but I do have radomes and
 another north/south link that has 0 change.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
 lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have a backhaul covered in ice i can almost guarantee that
> the ice is causing your signal being down, seen this a couple winters 
> ago
> on an AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed until 
> the ice
> melts off..
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Had a wind/storm and everything come through, wind picked up at
>> 4am and 4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a bit later down to 80 
>> db.
>> Everything is covered in ice.  BH is 12.5 miles north/south.
>>
>> Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south (in line with the af5x)
>> with no problems.  Ruled out thermal inversion or anything because 
>> of this.
>>
>> Any ideas besides bad jumpers/water or the dish got moved?  It
>> was only 25 mph winds, which admittedly is pretty faster for here, 
>> but just
>> wanted to bounce ideas before climbing.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>> 1100

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems

2018-01-19 Thread Nick Bright 
No, it just took me a while to notice that "CONDUCTED" showed an absurd 
negative number, instead of +19dBm.


On 1/19/2018 8:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

But the GUI said it was normal?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 19, 2018 9:16 PM, "Nick Bright" > wrote:


I had a similar problem with an AF3X not connecting; turned out
that after updating to OS 4v, it decided to back off the conducted
TX power to like -26 or something stupid. It basically wasn't
transmitting.

I had to set the antennas to 0 gain and manually calculate the
correct transmit power limit to get the link back up.

On 1/19/2018 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Really weird that both pig tails have the exact same level of
problems, though.  Both chains dropped from 60s to 80s to 95+ and
the link obviously disappeared.  The signals reported on the
AirOS interface, I mean.

Spectrum scan still shows -50 to nearby APs and -60 on the BH
frequency.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:52 PM, RickG > wrote:

I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :(

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

This came back up...exact same issue.  Definitely not ice
today!

Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine. Both
sides see each other at -60ish.  It attempts to register
and fail

Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman"
> wrote:

Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice! 
Also higher modulation...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
> wrote:

sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some
links with ice that get affected and some that
didn't, very strange sometimes, just have high
link margins is about the only thing you can do.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

Right on the money. Back up to 61 now.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman"
> wrote:

Well I thought exactly that at first but
I do have radomes and another north/south
link that has 0 change.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340

Direct: 937-552-2343

1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt
Fankhauser > wrote:

If you have a backhaul covered in ice
i can almost guarantee that the ice
is causing your signal being down,
seen this a couple winters ago on an
AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your
pretty much screwed until the ice

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems

2018-01-19 Thread Josh Luthman 
But the GUI said it was normal?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 19, 2018 9:16 PM, "Nick Bright"  wrote:

> I had a similar problem with an AF3X not connecting; turned out that after
> updating to OS 4v, it decided to back off the conducted TX power to like
> -26 or something stupid. It basically wasn't transmitting.
>
> I had to set the antennas to 0 gain and manually calculate the correct
> transmit power limit to get the link back up.
>
> On 1/19/2018 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Really weird that both pig tails have the exact same level of problems,
> though.  Both chains dropped from 60s to 80s to 95+ and the link obviously
> disappeared.  The signals reported on the AirOS interface, I mean.
>
> Spectrum scan still shows -50 to nearby APs and -60 on the BH frequency.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:52 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :(
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This came back up...exact same issue.  Definitely not ice today!
>>>
>>> Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine.  Both sides see each
>>> other at -60ish.  It attempts to register and fail
>>>
>>> Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice!  Also higher
 modulation...


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
 lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some links with ice that
> get affected and some that didn't, very strange sometimes, just have high
> link margins is about the only thing you can do.
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Right on the money.  Back up to 61 now.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well I thought exactly that at first but I do have radomes and
>>> another north/south link that has 0 change.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 If you have a backhaul covered in ice i can almost guarantee that
 the ice is causing your signal being down, seen this a couple winters 
 ago
 on an AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed until the 
 ice
 melts off..

 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Had a wind/storm and everything come through, wind picked up at
> 4am and 4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a bit later down to 80 db.
> Everything is covered in ice.  BH is 12.5 miles north/south.
>
> Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south (in line with the af5x)
> with no problems.  Ruled out thermal inversion or anything because of 
> this.
>
> Any ideas besides bad jumpers/water or the dish got moved?  It was
> only 25 mph winds, which admittedly is pretty faster for here, but 
> just
> wanted to bounce ideas before climbing.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems

2018-01-19 Thread Nick Bright 
I had a similar problem with an AF3X not connecting; turned out that 
after updating to OS 4v, it decided to back off the conducted TX power 
to like -26 or something stupid. It basically wasn't transmitting.


I had to set the antennas to 0 gain and manually calculate the correct 
transmit power limit to get the link back up.


On 1/19/2018 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Really weird that both pig tails have the exact same level of 
problems, though.  Both chains dropped from 60s to 80s to 95+ and the 
link obviously disappeared.  The signals reported on the AirOS 
interface, I mean.


Spectrum scan still shows -50 to nearby APs and -60 on the BH frequency.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:52 PM, RickG > wrote:


I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :(

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman
>
wrote:

This came back up...exact same issue.  Definitely not ice today!

Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine.  Both
sides see each other at -60ish.  It attempts to register and fail

Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman"
> wrote:

Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice!  Also
higher modulation...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
> wrote:

sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some
links with ice that get affected and some that didn't,
very strange sometimes, just have high link margins is
about the only thing you can do.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

Right on the money.  Back up to 61 now.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman"
> wrote:

Well I thought exactly that at first but I do
have radomes and another north/south link that
has 0 change.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt
Fankhauser > wrote:

If you have a backhaul covered in ice i
can almost guarantee that the ice is
causing your signal being down, seen this
a couple winters ago on an AF5X link with
2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed
until the ice melts off..

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh
Luthman > wrote:

Had a wind/storm and everything come
through, wind picked up at 4am and
4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a
bit later down to 80 db. Everything is
covered in ice.  BH is 12.5 miles
north/south.

Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south
(in line with the af5x) with no
problems. Ruled out thermal inversion
or anything because of this.

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems

2018-01-19 Thread Josh Luthman 
Really weird that both pig tails have the exact same level of problems,
though.  Both chains dropped from 60s to 80s to 95+ and the link obviously
disappeared.  The signals reported on the AirOS interface, I mean.

Spectrum scan still shows -50 to nearby APs and -60 on the BH frequency.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:52 PM, RickG  wrote:

> I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :(
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> This came back up...exact same issue.  Definitely not ice today!
>>
>> Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine.  Both sides see each
>> other at -60ish.  It attempts to register and fail
>>
>> Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice!  Also higher
>>> modulation...
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some links with ice that
 get affected and some that didn't, very strange sometimes, just have high
 link margins is about the only thing you can do.

 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Right on the money.  Back up to 61 now.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Well I thought exactly that at first but I do have radomes and
>> another north/south link that has 0 change.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have a backhaul covered in ice i can almost guarantee that
>>> the ice is causing your signal being down, seen this a couple winters 
>>> ago
>>> on an AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed until the 
>>> ice
>>> melts off..
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Had a wind/storm and everything come through, wind picked up at 4am
 and 4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a bit later down to 80 db.
 Everything is covered in ice.  BH is 12.5 miles north/south.

 Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south (in line with the af5x) with
 no problems.  Ruled out thermal inversion or anything because of this.

 Any ideas besides bad jumpers/water or the dish got moved?  It was
 only 25 mph winds, which admittedly is pretty faster for here, but just
 wanted to bounce ideas before climbing.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems

2018-01-19 Thread RickG 
I've had a flurry of bad pigtails lately :(

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> This came back up...exact same issue.  Definitely not ice today!
>
> Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine.  Both sides see each
> other at -60ish.  It attempts to register and fail
>
> Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice!  Also higher
>> modulation...
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some links with ice that
>>> get affected and some that didn't, very strange sometimes, just have high
>>> link margins is about the only thing you can do.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Right on the money.  Back up to 61 now.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
 wrote:

> Well I thought exactly that at first but I do have radomes and another
> north/south link that has 0 change.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you have a backhaul covered in ice i can almost guarantee that the
>> ice is causing your signal being down, seen this a couple winters ago on 
>> an
>> AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed until the ice 
>> melts
>> off..
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Had a wind/storm and everything come through, wind picked up at 4am
>>> and 4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a bit later down to 80 db.
>>> Everything is covered in ice.  BH is 12.5 miles north/south.
>>>
>>> Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south (in line with the af5x) with
>>> no problems.  Ruled out thermal inversion or anything because of this.
>>>
>>> Any ideas besides bad jumpers/water or the dish got moved?  It was
>>> only 25 mph winds, which admittedly is pretty faster for here, but just
>>> wanted to bounce ideas before climbing.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x bad signal problems

2018-01-19 Thread Josh Luthman 
This came back up...exact same issue.  Definitely not ice today!

Spectrum scan sees upper and lower bands just fine.  Both sides see each
other at -60ish.  It attempts to register and fail

Is there any possibility besides bad jumper/radio?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 12, 2018 2:29 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Well I brought the power down to -60/61 to be nice!  Also higher
> modulation...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> sun must have melted the ice off, i have had some links with ice that get
>> affected and some that didn't, very strange sometimes, just have high link
>> margins is about the only thing you can do.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Right on the money.  Back up to 61 now.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2018 11:40 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Well I thought exactly that at first but I do have radomes and another
 north/south link that has 0 change.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
 Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
 lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have a backhaul covered in ice i can almost guarantee that the
> ice is causing your signal being down, seen this a couple winters ago on 
> an
> AF5X link with 2 foot dishes, your pretty much screwed until the ice melts
> off..
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Had a wind/storm and everything come through, wind picked up at 4am
>> and 4:30-5 we went from 61 db to 70 and a bit later down to 80 db.
>> Everything is covered in ice.  BH is 12.5 miles north/south.
>>
>> Have another BH 12.5 miles north/south (in line with the af5x) with
>> no problems.  Ruled out thermal inversion or anything because of this.
>>
>> Any ideas besides bad jumpers/water or the dish got moved?  It was
>> only 25 mph winds, which admittedly is pretty faster for here, but just
>> wanted to bounce ideas before climbing.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
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[Ubnt_users] Looking to buy

2018-01-19 Thread Blair Davis 
Looking to buy:

Used Ubiquity M900 Rockets

Used Ubiquity M365 Rockets

Used Ubiquity M365 PowerBridges

Used Ubiquity M365 NanoStations

Used 900MHz DualPol Yagi's (KP or Ubiquity)

Used 2.4GHz DualPol omnis (Ubiquity or KP)

Used 2.4GHz DualPol shielded sectors (Ubiquity Ti adjustable or Ubiquity 
with RFArmor or KP)


Radios from anywhere, antennas preferred eastern part of the country to 
pick up...

Offlist or call 269-6505749

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