Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue

[Robert Dillon]

Have you guys successfully down graded firmware on M radios?  Do so by using 
the normal browser upgrade screen or AC2?  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
smartphone
 Original message From: Mitch  Date: 
1/25/20  5:43 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ubiquiti Users Group , 
Clay Stewart  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 
disconnect issue 
Sorry Typo
XM 6.0.4 signed
Mitch

On 1/24/2020 12:04 PM, Clay Stewart
  wrote:


  
  On over 15 900 APs, new ones and ones in field for
years. It seems to have started at OS 6.17 and then, no matter
what OS you try, the APs will drop all customers sometime
multiple times a day, or every other day or so.  Nothing changed
and on multiple networks and counties.
  
  
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 16:59
  Josh Luthman 
  wrote:


  Hardware failure it sounds like.  If it simply
doesn't associate until it is rebooted it's either software
(which is unlikely if you've tried various versions) or
hardware.

  

  
  
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  


  
  
  
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at
  4:56 PM Clay Stewart 
  wrote:


  For several weeks now, or longer, random
900 APs drop all customers and have to be rebooted to
get them back. Setting WatchDog is NOT a solution, it
only has customers interrupted often, and not down till
a reboot.


It does not seem to matter which OS we use. 


Has anyone found a solution?
  
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue

[Robert Dillon]

We have this happen all too often also.  And totally agree with the broken 
bandaid that the watchdog provides.  We have found that if we replace the bad 
radio sometimes once and sometimes twice or more we'll eventually find a new 
in-box radio that works without the drops.  Its terrible but that's what it 
comes down to.We are looking for a new solution as well.  We only use 900 in 
small cell repeater scenarios where no way around the foliage so what Tommy 
does with Cambium PMP 900 is too expensive for us for that application. Sent 
from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Clay Stewart 
 Date: 1/21/20  4:57 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ubiquiti 
Users Group  Subject: [Ubnt_users] 900 disconnect issue 
For several weeks now, or longer, random 900 APs drop all customers and have to 
be rebooted to get them back. Setting WatchDog is NOT a solution, it only has 
customers interrupted often, and not down till a reboot.It does not seem to 
matter which OS we use. Has anyone found a solution?
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti LBE-5AC

[Robert Dillon]

Interesting.  You have been happy with the Mikrotik 60Ghz then?
 Original message From: Roy  Date: 
7/29/19  10:07 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ubiquiti Users Group  
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti LBE-5AC 

  
  We use LiteBeam AC Gen 2 and LBE-5AC-23 successfully out to 3
  miles. YMMV.  For .5 miles and less, we are starting to use
  Mikrotik 60Ghz
  
  Roy
  
  
  
  On 7/29/2019 5:44 AM, Phil Curnutt wrote:


  
  The original model needs the unlock code for the
UNII, the newer, Gen2, comes activated.  They work fine for
short shots 3/4 of mile or less: anything longer move to the
PowerBeams.  The LBE's work much better then the NBE's that have
a funky antenna pattern.


Phil
  
  
  
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 10:16
  PM Roy  wrote:


  

  
  I just checked a LBE-5AC-23 and it has the "revised U-NII
  question.  Its activated and I think all those channels
  are selectable.  Software is  version 8.5.12
  
  Roy
  
  On 7/28/2019 8:56 PM, RickG wrote:


  I dont get that option on these.
  
  
On Sun, Jul 28, 2019
  at 1:17 PM Mimbres Communications 
  wrote:


  
Any chance you forgot to activate the revised
  U-NII rules?

  
  

  
  
  
On Sun, Jul 28,
  2019 at 10:28 AM RickG 
  wrote:


  
Anyone here know what's the deal with the
  LBE-5AC units? I've got several that will not
  select the UNII bands. I've tried upgrading
  the firmware. -RickG

  
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5xHD ethernet port limited to auto negotiation

[Robert]

I worked for Jim Clark  ( the billionaire ) at one point in my life.  We 
were drinking grappa and I was feeling like I could ask him a question. 
I asked him for his best business advice."Never have employees". 
That was it.

On 01/05/2019 11:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Replaced all kinds of cables and radios, third PboxPro, etc and no fix.
> 
> Thought maybe the power supply could be bad or generating noise.  Looked 
> at the wiring.  It was not right to say the least.  I'm kind of 
> surprised but more scared that it worked.  Fixed the wiring and when I 
> booted up the gear everything came up just fine.
> 
> Hire an employee they said...it's how you grow they said...
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:06 PM Josh Luthman  > wrote:
> 
> Well I'm trying to stick with DC so that won't cut it here :(
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
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> 
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 7:50 PM RickG   wrote:
> 
> I have the same issue with a Cambium ePMP 2000 talking to a
> Netonix switch. If I use the Cambium POE all is well!
> 
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 4:43 PM Josh Luthman
>  > wrote:
> 
> I have several sites out in the field with Powerbox Pro and
> once I forced poe on, it works just fine with af5xHD.
> 
> In the office, though, I have weird issues where if a cable
> is plugged into another port (just simply a cable, no other
> device) it goes from auto (doing gig full) to interface
> up/down constantly and I can't even get the Mikrotik bridge
> to see the af5xhd MAC address.
> 
> Now if I set auto negotiation to 10/100 it links just fine
> (at 100 full).
> 
> Looking at the radio interface it doesn't seem that I can
> set it to gig full.  I can't change it from auto
> negotiation.  Am I missing something?
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

[Robert Dillon]

If you need any REAL tree penetration use the Rocket/yagi.  We had to upgrade a 
ton of our M900 Loco links to M900 rocket yagi links to fix them up.  But we do 
not put any 900 on towers its just local short range links.

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Ralf-Talking Head Productions
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 3:16 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz

 

I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life experience 
input.

Do they cut through heavy pine trees? 
What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees?
Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput?

I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one mile away from 
the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about 80 to 100 feet tall. 
Any suggestions?

Thank you in advance for your reply.

Ralf
Gulf Wireless Inc.

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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Robert]

So their warning about only using them for POE cameras not IP isn't true?

On 01/26/2018 11:13 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
> Nice. I may try one of these for a project coming up. Thanks Mike
> 
> 
> On 1/26/2018 1:19 PM, mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I usually roll my own extenders. I purchase these:
>>
>> UHPPOTE 1 Port 10/100M PoE Extender IEEE802.3af For Ethernet Security 
>> Systems IP Camera 
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M28RTKZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4c3AAb59M2VEK
>>
>> Install them in an outdoor box
>>
>> $30 for an outdoor box, $20 for an extender, $50 total instead of the 
>> over-priced veracity units.
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:07, David Hulsebus  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/26/2018 10:33 AM, Robert wrote:
>>>> What price for these?
>>> I think $600 for the pair of long extenders and  a power supply sold
>>> separately.  Plus $200 for direct bury cat5e. We used a small $30
>>> plastic box to house the extender at the end of the driveway and a pole
>>> to mount the radio to. The 56 vdc out is 802.3af so the Veracity units
>>> will run an ip camera directly. We added a ubiquiti converter for 24 vdc
>>> to power the beam 19 - don't remember it's cost - less than $100.
>>>>> On 1/26/18 5:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>>>>>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>>>>>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>>>>>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>>>>>> I think about for first attempt?
>>>>>>
>>>>> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
>>>>> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
>>>>> ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
>>>>>
>>>>> http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx
>>>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Robert]

What price for these?

On 1/26/18 5:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> I think about for first attempt?
>>
> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
> ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
> 
> http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Aligning AF11

[Robert Dillon]

I have never tested it but I don't believe a 5GHz radio will work on an 11GHz 
dish if thats what your doing to test.  If you have true wireless line of site 
you should have no problems getting a link with AF11s.  What dishes are you 
using?  I agree with Kurt, take the radios back to the bench and make sure they 
link up.  Did you double check your configuration:  master-slave, channel size, 
frequencies, TX-RX flipped on each side, security key, SSID, etc.  Any one of 
those could cause it to not link up.  Also make sure your diplexers are in 
correctly in each radio.  We had that once the manufacturer had the sticker on 
backwards and it would not link up right till we flipped it over.  ALso you can 
test in SISO mode on both sides to see if that helps.

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 11:30 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Aligning AF11

We're having some difficulty in aligning a 5.6 mile AirFiber 11 link, 
they won't associate.  We put on a couple of rockets when we couldn't 
get the 11's to see each other, even with the scan it doesn't see the 
rocket we put on the other AF11, maybe it's the antenna being tuned to 
another frequency.  The Rocket does see another 5Ghz AP on that tower at 
-89 but not the one we put on the AF11.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband, Inc.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] solar powered towers

[Robert Andrews]

Buy for the future.   A little money spent now will prevent a LOT of 
rework later.   Nice thing about MPPT controllers is that you don't need 
to match the panels to get best performance, you can just add what is 
the best $/performance panel later.  But you can't if you are out of 
amps on your controller.   Also KISS with fewer add on boxes.

On 8/1/17 8:00 AM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
> This sounds more like a solution.  I can't believe there are no charge 
> controllers with built-in ethernet.  Just seems like a natural fit.  
> All the mppt charge manufacturers waqnt to imitate the other guy 
> instead of building what's needed.  (Strange how all the controllers 
> even look alike)(OEM?)  suspect there is only one or two real 
> manufacturers and the rest are just labels?
>
> I only need 4-5 radios, do I need a 60 amp service for for under 30 
> watts usage?
>
> Jan V
>
> On 07/31/2017 03:47 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>> I have some c code that I hacked together that lets you pull all the
>> modbus info from the ethernet interface from the morningstar 60-mppt.
>> It lets you plot anything through mrtg.Free for me so free to you as
>> long as there are no critiques or responsibilities.   The operative word
>> is _hacked_...   If someone finds another charge controller that is mppt
>> and ethernet I would love to hear about it.   Single vendor solutions
>> make me nervous...
>>
>> On 7/31/17 11:26 AM, Mimbres Communications wrote:
>>> The EMC-1
>>> <https://www.morningstarcorp.com/products/ethernet-meterbus-converter/> 
>>> does
>>> support 100baseTX.
>>>
>>> There are quite a few third party ModBus to Ethernet converters out
>>> there.  Not sure how that would work, but might be a possibility.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 11:56 AM, >> <mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Doh! My bad! I posted the wrong one! I have their mppt-60 one.
>>>
>>>  On Jul 31, 2017, at 09:41, Mimbres Communications 
>>> >>  <mailto:mim...@sw-ei.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  The MPPT version is more like $600 -- and only the 60A includes
>>>>  onboard Ethernet.
>>>>
>>>>  Their smaller MPPT controllers can be paired with a MeterBus to
>>>>  Ethernet converter (EMC-1)
>>>>
>>>>  On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:13 AM, >>>  <mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.solar-electric.com/tr60amp12244.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlISgm-ez1QIVC2p-Ch0ZNwITEAQYASABEgLmRPD_BwE
>>>> <https://www.solar-electric.com/tr60amp12244.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlISgm-ez1QIVC2p-Ch0ZNwITEAQYASABEgLmRPD_BwE>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Jul 31, 2017, at 08:09, James Wilson >>>  <mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  We use Morningstar for this...
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Jul 31, 2017 11:05 AM, "Jan-OOLLC"
>>>>>  >>>>  <mailto:j.vank...@oregononline.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  looking for a source to acquire mppt charge controller
>>>>>  w/IP addressable
>>>>>  LAN port for panel/battery monitoring
>>>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] solar powered towers

[Robert Andrews]

I have some c code that I hacked together that lets you pull all the 
modbus info from the ethernet interface from the morningstar 60-mppt. 
It lets you plot anything through mrtg.Free for me so free to you as 
long as there are no critiques or responsibilities.   The operative word 
is _hacked_...   If someone finds another charge controller that is mppt 
and ethernet I would love to hear about it.   Single vendor solutions 
make me nervous...

On 7/31/17 11:26 AM, Mimbres Communications wrote:
> The EMC-1 
>  does 
> support 100baseTX.
> 
> There are quite a few third party ModBus to Ethernet converters out 
> there.  Not sure how that would work, but might be a possibility.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 11:56 AM,  > wrote:
> 
> Doh! My bad! I posted the wrong one! I have their mppt-60 one.
> 
> On Jul 31, 2017, at 09:41, Mimbres Communications  > wrote:
> 
>> The MPPT version is more like $600 -- and only the 60A includes
>> onboard Ethernet.
>>
>> Their smaller MPPT controllers can be paired with a MeterBus to
>> Ethernet converter (EMC-1)
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:13 AM, > > wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> https://www.solar-electric.com/tr60amp12244.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlISgm-ez1QIVC2p-Ch0ZNwITEAQYASABEgLmRPD_BwE
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 08:09, James Wilson > > wrote:
>>
>>> We use Morningstar for this...
>>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2017 11:05 AM, "Jan-OOLLC"
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> looking for a source to acquire mppt charge controller
>>> w/IP addressable
>>> LAN port for panel/battery monitoring
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 6.0.6 isn't an upgrade, it's a legal brick

[Robert]

When you can't compete technically, you compete legally...   Shortly 
thereafter you wonder why your foot has a hole in it...

On 07/10/2017 12:45 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
> It seems that this upgrade isn't an upgrade at all.  It's driven by
> lawyers requiring that you do an electronic signature that you agree to
> not use Cambium Elevate software on this device. Pretty odd since it's
> my radio, well past warranty so I can do what I want to it.  Is this the
> direction UBNT is going, turn your radio into a brick if you don't
> modify your use agreement with them?  Well Robert DID come from Apple so
> I guess I shouldn't be surprised about sabotaging product to force you
> into newer gear, guess 6.04 is the last update I'll do for my radios,
> sad. #patheticdirection
>
> Forbes Mercy
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT 6.0.6 WARNING

[Robert]

Secure, as in cannot load competitors firmware...

On 07/07/2017 12:58 PM, mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> Man, that sucks ass. Siklu started doing that too...
>
> But, if its more secure...
>
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 12:52, Mitch  > wrote:
>
>> The firmware pre 6.0.6 is not a "secure" firmware so
>>
>> the radios will not allow it to be loaded via Gui nor ssh
>>
>> The only way to get older firmware on the radio after upgrade to 6.0.6
>>
>> is to TFTP the radio and load pre 6.0.6
>>
>>
>> Mitch Koep
>>
>>
>> On 7/7/2017 2:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> What change is needed on how old of firmware?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From: *"Mitch" 
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Friday, July 7, 2017 1:45:30 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT 6.0.6 WARNING
>>>
>>> The latest reply from support
>>>
>>>
>>> *Donald G.* (Ubiquiti Networks)
>>>
>>> Jul 7, 08:33 PDT
>>>
>>> Hi Mitch,
>>>
>>> I can understand the concern but I'm not sure if there is going to be
>>> any changes made on the old firmwares.
>>>
>>> If you have any other questions, please let us know!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Donald G.
>>> Ubiquiti Networks
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/7/2017 12:08 PM, James Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Chris, you may have just saved us from some misery!
>>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017 1:02 PM, "Chris Soiles" >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I had an issue when upgrading to 8.3 is it deactivated UNII
>>> and didn't associate with the AP when it rebooted
>>>
>>> Sent from iPhone 6S Plus
>>>
>>> Chris Soiles
>>> Owner
>>> Rio Cities
>>> csoi...@riocities.net 
>>> 505-966-6389 
>>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:00 AM, James Wilson
>>> mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We just received an AC 'chiclet' that had 8.1.something
>>> on it that wouldn't let us use an 8.0.2 (our current
>>> known working version on all of our AC radios)
>>> configuration on it.  And it wouldn't let us put 8.0.2 on
>>> it!
>>>
>>> We had to find a PBE 5 AC radio, put 8.0.2 on it, load up
>>> the 8.0.2 configuration, put 8.3 on it, and back up a new
>>> 8.3 configuration.  Fortunately we figured this out in
>>> the office before we took it to the field.
>>>
>>> 8.3 does seem to be working so far, but all of these
>>> firmware versions needing new configurations is almost as
>>> bad as MikroTik!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Tommy Adams
>>> mailto:tomm...@digitex.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome to UBNT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Tommy Adams
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> Digitex.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 817.558.6230  Voice
>>>
>>> 817.558.1204  Fax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>>> 
>>> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>>> ] *On Behalf Of
>>> *Jan-OOLLC
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 07, 2017 10:30 AM
>>> *To:* ubnt_users@wispa.org 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT 6.0.6 WARNING
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How does something like this get out of the factory?
>>>
>>> Jan V
>>>
>>> On 07/07/2017 08:05 AM, RickG wrote:
>>>
>>> Yup! Happened to me. Fortunately I was bench
>>> testing ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:59 AM,
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Everyone
>>>
>>> Heads up if you upgrade to 6.0.6 it will NOT
>>> allow
>>>
>>> you to down grade firmware and seems to break
>>>
>>> 

[Ubnt_users] 2 new Mimosa B11's

[Robert Dillon]

We have 2 Mimosa B11 radios for sale, 1 box has never been opened, the 2nd
the box is opened but radio has never been mounted or installed.  If
interested please contact me off list to discuss a deal.

 

Robert Dillon

In the Stix Broadband

814-472-2662

rdil...@itxbb.net

 

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] AC2 and AF24

[Robert Andrews]

Same for the netonix...  absolute necessity that they be kept away from 
the Real Internet...  8 character is like a 1 hour crack time?

On 9/30/16 8:58 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 9/30/16 6:22 PM, Scotty Rice wrote:
>>  If you are trying to use a password longer than eight character try
>> using just the first  eight characters. The af24 only uses up to eight
>> characters
>
>
> What year are we in again?
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Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma

[Robert]

Same as throwing it away at that point plus shipping...

On 08/10/2016 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> I believe they deny your RMA if you sent peanuts.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Robert  <mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
>
> You send them out, you should expect them back...  It's called
> recycling...
>
> On 08/10/2016 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > You know what's most annoying about the packing peanuts?  Their RMA
> > instructions specify to not use them yourself.  Do as we say, not as we
> > do =(
> >
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office:937-552-2340 
> > Direct:937-552-2343 
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net
> > mailto:t...@byhalia.net> <mailto:t...@byhalia.net
> <mailto:t...@byhalia.net>>> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Shawn.   Never a problem on RMAs.  Very responsive!!
> >
> > Agree too on getting rid of packing peanuts!!
> >
> > Troy
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Ben Moore via Ubnt_users  <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> > <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>>
> > Date: 8/10/16 12:43 PM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: "Shawn C. Peppers"  <mailto:videodirectwispal...@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:videodirectwispal...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:videodirectwispal...@gmail.com>>>
> > Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group  <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> > <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>>
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma
> >
> > I am not a fan of the packing peanuts either ;)  We will find better
> > solution here.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ben
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Shawn C. Peppers
> >  <mailto:videodirectwispal...@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:videodirectwispal...@gmail.com
> <mailto:videodirectwispal...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > I have zero problems with RMA at ubnt, im not sure what happen
> > but i cant remember one time i have had problem getting a
> > warranty swap completed.
> >
> > I do on the other hand think its funny that they don't want you
> > to send your product back in packing peanuts but turn around
> > send the product back to you in packing peanuts.
> >
> > I have hate for packing peanuts.
> >
> > Shawn C. Peppers
> > Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
>  > 866-680-8433   > Toll Free
>  > 480-287-9960   > Fax
> >http://www.video-direct.tv
> >
> > On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users
> > mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jan -
> >>
> >> Can you send me some examples of this?  This should not be
> >> happening.  We make it a point to have the RMA process be as
> >> smooth as possible, so if this is not happening, please send
> >> to me off-list and will look into this and have it improved.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Jan-OOLLC
> >> mailto:j.vank...@oregononline.net>
> >> <mailto:j.vank...@oregononline.net 
> <mailto:j.vank...@oregononline.net>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our local supply chain is 2 days away, even when paying
> >> for next day it still takes 2.  We don't use Amazon except
> >> for emergencies and since most of the supply chains I've
> >> used in the past use a ubnt warehouse which then sends out
> >> 6 or more months old product. Stuff we use a lot of,

Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma

[Robert]

You send them out, you should expect them back...  It's called recycling...

On 08/10/2016 10:07 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> You know what's most annoying about the packing peanuts?  Their RMA
> instructions specify to not use them yourself.  Do as we say, not as we
> do =(
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net
> mailto:t...@byhalia.net>> wrote:
>
> I agree with Shawn.   Never a problem on RMAs.  Very responsive!!
>
> Agree too on getting rid of packing peanuts!!
>
> Troy
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: Ben Moore via Ubnt_users  >
> Date: 8/10/16 12:43 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: "Shawn C. Peppers"  >
> Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group  >
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma
>
> I am not a fan of the packing peanuts either ;)  We will find better
> solution here.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Shawn C. Peppers
>  > wrote:
>
> I have zero problems with RMA at ubnt, im not sure what happen
> but i cant remember one time i have had problem getting a
> warranty swap completed.
>
> I do on the other hand think its funny that they don't want you
> to send your product back in packing peanuts but turn around
> send the product back to you in packing peanuts.
>
> I have hate for packing peanuts.
>
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
> 866-680-8433  Toll Free
> 480-287-9960  Fax
> http://www.video-direct.tv
>
> On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users
> mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jan -
>>
>> Can you send me some examples of this?  This should not be
>> happening.  We make it a point to have the RMA process be as
>> smooth as possible, so if this is not happening, please send
>> to me off-list and will look into this and have it improved.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Jan-OOLLC
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> Our local supply chain is 2 days away, even when paying
>> for next day it still takes 2.  We don't use Amazon except
>> for emergencies and since most of the supply chains I've
>> used in the past use a ubnt warehouse which then sends out
>> 6 or more months old product. Stuff we use a lot of, I
>> have to keep in stock.  You can't expect customers to have
>> to wait for service, not tolerable.  The RMA that didn't
>> happen had a test date of February 2016, unit tossed into
>> recycle bin.
>>
>> Jan V
>>
>> On 08/10/2016 04:14 AM, Tim wrote:
>>> Off topic a bit:
>>>
>>> We purchase from a local supply house.
>>> Provides a local inventory for us.
>>>
>>> Do not favor Amazon approach.
>>>
>>> You pay a small premium but the benefits are great in
>>> supporting a local supply chain that is willing to work
>>> with you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> /Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan-OOLLC 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think I'll not bother with RMA as ubnt requires too
>>> much BS to jump through.  Had an airrouter HP fail same
>>> day installed and description of failure was not adequate
>>> enough for them ( burned-up, too hot to touch, not
>>> working).  I'm a one man show and don't have hours of
>>> free time to satisfy them.  For stuff under $70 it's not
>>> worth my time to spend additional hours jumping through
>>> hoops after already spending money on truck rolls.  They
>>> know I'm a wisp with spare parts in a stockroom and yet
>>> they treat me like a onetime user with nothing better to
>>> do than game them.  I would go to a new vendor if it
>>> would be worth the cost and effort.  It's not worth the
>>> aggravation
>>>
>>> Jan V
>>>
>>> On 08/09/2016 11:34 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
 So we were all over this prism line before it was really
 the prism line (mainly cause i've been drooling since
 seeing the prism demo in vegas last year)  we had
 purchased several AC radios (and a few AC light radios)
 to test with.  Had a hard time 

Re: [Ubnt_users] AC2 Server Specs

[Robert Haas]

Thanks Matt!

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:53 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AC2 Server Specs

 

Hi Robert,

I just checked with the AC2 team and they said it should be fine. Here's what 
they recommended:

 

It should work fine on that hardware. also it should not be any problem running 
on VM. However he should edit server vmoptions file to dedicate more ram, 
because even if he has 48gb, Java by default will use only one 1gb. I believe 
2gb for java should be fine.

 

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Robert Haas mailto:rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com> > wrote:

What would you all recommend hardware wise for an AC2 server to handle ~3k CPE?

 

I have some older (but new) ibm x3650’s laying around with 2 dual core 3ghz 
procs, 48gb ram etc. 

 

Can AC2 be ran in a VM without issue or is it better to be on a dedicated piece 
of hardware?

 

Thanks,

Robert Haas

 


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[Ubnt_users] AC2 Server Specs

[Robert Haas]

What would you all recommend hardware wise for an AC2 server to handle ~3k
CPE?

 

I have some older (but new) ibm x3650's laying around with 2 dual core 3ghz
procs, 48gb ram etc. 

 

Can AC2 be ran in a VM without issue or is it better to be on a dedicated
piece of hardware?

 

Thanks,

Robert Haas

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24 mile AF5

[Robert Andrews]

what a great location!   Doesn't look like there are going to be a lot 
of other transmitters around there...




On 1/3/15 4:43 PM, Clay Stewart wrote:
Currently with rain and heavy fog Heavy rain earlier in week, and 
more tomorrow...


On Thursday, January 1, 2015, Mike Hammett <mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:


Something I would very much recommend against. I run 3' dishes for
links about that long. That's 22 dB less link margin than what I'd
run. That's a big difference in speed\quality.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"TJ Trout" >
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" >
*Sent: *Thursday, January 1, 2015 10:55:16 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] 24 mile AF5

24 miles using less than 2ft antennas?

On Jan 1, 2015 8:12 AM, "Clay Stewart"
>
wrote:

Not bad Mostly self interference and planning issues.
    Running 20 CW max so far.

On Thursday, January 1, 2015, Robert > wrote:

How noisy is your band for that shot?

On 01/01/2015 07:39 AM, Clay Stewart wrote:
> Got tied up with some power outages and such... Will be
back on that
> long shot this weekend to fine tune and get throughput.
This is a great
> LOS though... Mountain to mountain 800-1000 above terrain
>
> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, Daniel Peoples
 <mailto:dpe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> What does this link look like on a airview?
>
> /Daniel Peoples/
> Resonance Broadband
> /Resonancebroadband.com/ <http://Resonancebroadband.com>
> 918-429-3620 
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Mike Hammett
> >   
 >

wrote:
>
> It says the throughput it'll do in the screen shot.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
 

> *From: *"Josh Luthman" >   
 >

> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" >   
 >

> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:14:29 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] 24 mile AF5
>
>
> Throughput?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Clay Stewart
> >   
 >

> wrote:
>
> Still needs freq fine tuning and remote aiming.
>
> --
>
>
> --
> Clay Stewart, CEO
> SCS Broadband
> 434.263.6363  > O
> 434.942.6510  > C
>cstew...@scsbroadband.com
> “We Keep You Up and Running”
>
> Please send sales inquiries to
sa...@scsbroadband.com
>   
 

> Please send service/repair requests to
> supp...@scsbroadband.com
>   
 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] 24 mile AF5

[Robert]

How noisy is your band for that shot?

On 01/01/2015 07:39 AM, Clay Stewart wrote:
> Got tied up with some power outages and such... Will be back on that
> long shot this weekend to fine tune and get throughput. This is a great
> LOS though... Mountain to mountain 800-1000 above terrain
>
> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, Daniel Peoples  > wrote:
>
> What does this link look like on a airview?
>
> /Daniel Peoples/
> Resonance Broadband
> /Resonancebroadband.com/ 
> 918-429-3620
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Mike Hammett
>  > wrote:
>
> It says the throughput it'll do in the screen shot.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> *From: *"Josh Luthman"  >
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"  >
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:14:29 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] 24 mile AF5
>
>
> Throughput?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Clay Stewart
>  
> >
> wrote:
>
> Still needs freq fine tuning and remote aiming.
>
> --
>
>
> --
> Clay Stewart, CEO
> SCS Broadband
> 434.263.6363  O
> 434.942.6510  C
>cstew...@scsbroadband.com
> “We Keep You Up and Running”
>
> Please send sales inquiries to sa...@scsbroadband.com
> 
> Please send service/repair requests to
> supp...@scsbroadband.com
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Merry Christmas fix

[Robert]

Failing UPS's is why we came up with driving the devices directly off 
deep cycle batteries.   Yes the devices charging the batteries fail but 
(usually) not in a fashion to damage devices downstream from them.  And 
batteries usually give off clues as to if they are going to fail before 
they do.

On 12/25/2014 02:03 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> As they say Murphy was an optimist !
>
> Murphy's law states that for every  N+ redundancy you build, you can
> expect N+1 set of failures.
>
> Putting a UPS is a great idea, however, we have also experienced outages
> due to UPS Failure (not un-common that UPS's fail in the OFF position,
> but it still happens)
> If it is a critical site, it is best to try to setup dual sources of
> power.. one on battery and one on main(s).. using a Dual / Redundant
> Power Strip (Switch)... would also make it easier to replace the UPS
> without bringing stuff down..
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> 
>
> *From: *"Kees H" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 25, 2014 1:15:27 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Merry Christmas fix
>
> 
> Preventive Checklist # 1
> Install UPS at all tower locations ?
> Merry Christmas Clay.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:02 AM
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Merry Christmas fix
>
> Fix checklist #1,993
>
> Issue: Tower down due to reset Rocket after a short regional
> power outage Christmas morning.
>
> Solution: Factory Reset Master PtP Rocket... Change to AP,
> change channel to what it was, set mileage. Change IP to what it
> was... Leave everything else as is... SSID UBNT, CW 40, etc...
> save settings and it will reconnect to factory reset Rocket
> downstream. Then just program everything back like it was (or
> restore from AC2 backup). Note, you will need subnet access to
> 192.168.1.x via computer and routers.
>
> No go and call back the three dozen angry people who called in
> on Christmas morning.
>
> Lucked out that the 40 CW still let me connect, although dur no
> the fix it knocked down couple other backhauls. Be nice if
> Ubiquiti  would have factory default of 10.
>
> Now off to fix a factory reset router, which I will do by
> routing to 192.168.10.1, remotely, and then reprogram. (Need to
> turn all those factory reset buttons off!)
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
> Please send sales inquiries to sa...@scsbroadband.com
> 
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>
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Robert]

Hmmm,  I think someone is really trying hard to emulate Steve Jobs... 
He always knew what his customers _really_ needed...   Sometimes he was 
spot on...  Sometimes he tried to float bricks...  Didn't hear about 
those products...

On 12/03/2014 05:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote:
> Well said.
>
> In the alpha forums we gave them every possible combination of onsite
> hosting that you could think of that we would be happy to use for this
> project. Virtual appliances  and an actual hardware appliances that they
> sell were 2 that I thought would be the easiest.
>
> Fell on deaf ears though.
>
> *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
> [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 3, 2014 2:38 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
>
> Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company.  We aren’t
> like Apple consumers.  For the most part, most of us are not buying
> these products to jack with them at Starbucks and drink Coffee.  We are
> out on towers, in all kinds of weather, deploying these.   No matter the
> driving factor, the majority of these networks are here to make money.
> I, for one, have bet my house and my future on UBNT products in the
> past.  It was no different than betting on another vendor, but I chose
> UBNT for several reasons.  Price was a factor but not the only one.
>
> Robert and Staff, please don’t misunderstand the passion for these folks
> being fanboys.   Sure, the inner geek in everyone wants the shiny new
> gadget.  But at the end of the day we all want to go home and be able to
> set our thermostat at 71 instead of 50.  :-) This is about providing a
> service and being in business.  Tools like AirControl means we can do
> that extra install instead of having the programmer spend their time
> figuring out how to pull data from the radio or dump into some 3rd party
> app.  We all know monitoring and proactive solutions are essential in
> this business.  I want to know if my business customers are getting what
> they pay for.  If I have SLA customers I want to prove to them we are
> living up to expectations.  Having that data might mean keeping them or
> not. A complete product family means we have a lower TCO.
>
> Now, back to perception.  If I am putting my house on the line would I
> continue to do so for a company that hasn’t finished a key product like
> AC in how many years? Version 1 never was completed.  V2 is now dead.
> What about the Mfi cloud? I want to be able to trust a company with my
> livelihood. Sure, a software product isn’t the same as a working AP, but
> it should be a key component.  In today’s ISP world information is
> King.  If I have information I know when to upgrade, what customers to
> proactively fix, and how the overall health of the network is. This is
> what makes me different than Comcast.  I should be able to know
> everything about what I have.
>
> If you want to make it cloud based, how about an appliance we can
> install locally? Just an idea, in a sea of thousands.   But more
> importantly, help us focus on automating our businesses and being kick
> butt at it. Give us the tools we actually need.  That way we can buy
> more units from you.  Simple.
>
> Justin
>
> --
>
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>
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>
> Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers
>
> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com
>
> Podcast about xISP topics
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
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>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Robert Andrews]

Ok, but when the device contacts the cloud why can't the cloud at that 
point start the update?   I'm not really familiar with the product but 
what is the frequency of the cloud to ground discharge ( or the other 
way around )...



On 12/1/14 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection 
to the cloud.


(to be fair)
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com
On 12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your
management adoption for the investors, but nuts dead simple if they are
on your cloud system...   And if the FCC changes the rules   Guess
what can be forced to update for compliance with or without your say so...

Hm


On 12/1/14 4:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:

Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my
radios?  Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?

But it's CLOUD.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

[Robert Andrews]

Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your 
management adoption for the investors, but nuts dead simple if they are 
on your cloud system...   And if the FCC changes the rules   Guess 
what can be forced to update for compliance with or without your say so...

Hm


On 12/1/14 4:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:
>> Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my
>> radios?  Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?
>
> But it's CLOUD.
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

[Robert Haas]

We already use SAF Lumina’s which I’ve had good luck with. A plus would be if 
we can use the same band radio to minimize on the shelf spares.

 

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:02 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

 

There's a plethora of WISPA vendor members that make (or sell) licensed links. 
Few people have anything bad to say about any of them.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <http://www.ics-il.com> http://www.ics-il.com

 

  _  

From: "Robert Haas" < <mailto:rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com> 
rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:56:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

That is what I’m thinking Mike, I’ve already shot an E-mail off to Pete @ SAF 
to start looking at some licensed gear. 

   

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>  
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:12 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

 

You're not going to find much that'll do better than 100/100 at that distance 
without going licensed. Maybe the PTP600\650? Anything AC based with 
appropriately sized dishes will and will likely also work in 5150. However, a 
100/100 customer should be generating $1,500-$2,500/month, so maybe a licensed 
link is in the budget?



-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <http://www.ics-il.com> http://www.ics-il.com

 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 

  _  

From: "Robert Haas" < <mailto:rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com> 
rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:06:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

Thanks, sounds like I need to look towards a different solution.

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>  
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:59 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

 

As long as it has good line of site and 5.8ghz is clean enough, it should work 
fine. According to the built in link calculator, it should be able to do 
149.76Mbps using 20mhz channels at 13 miles... if you need more than that, you 
can use wider channels, but that's going to be using pretty much the whole 
5.8ghz band.
 

  _  

From:  <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett 
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

 <http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators> 
http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators
 <http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf> 
http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf

Guessing 20 dB of Tx power, you should be able to maintain that if you have low 
noise. AF5 won't work in 5150. DFS won't reach that far, so you have to use 5.8.

For areas over -88 noise it probably won't work well. If noise permits, a 10 
MHz or 20 MHz channel will give you 100/100. If you can make 8x modulation, 10 
MHz should be fine. For each lower modulation, you'll need the next bigger 
channel (roughly).



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <http://www.ics-il.com> http://www.ics-il.com

 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 

  _  

From: "Robert Haas" < <mailto:rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com> 
rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
To: "ubnt users" < <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25:27 AM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi?

 

We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from one of 
our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber fed tower 
sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can shorten that to 
a single 13 Mile hop but I’m wondering if I can use an AF 5 for that hop and 
get the needed throughput.

 

Thanks,

Robert Haas

 

 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

[Robert Haas]

That is what I’m thinking Mike, I’ve already shot an E-mail off to Pete @ SAF 
to start looking at some licensed gear. 

   

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:12 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

 

You're not going to find much that'll do better than 100/100 at that distance 
without going licensed. Maybe the PTP600\650? Anything AC based with 
appropriately sized dishes will and will likely also work in 5150. However, a 
100/100 customer should be generating $1,500-$2,500/month, so maybe a licensed 
link is in the budget?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <http://www.ics-il.com> http://www.ics-il.com

 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 



  _  

From: "Robert Haas" < <mailto:rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com> 
rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:06:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

Thanks, sounds like I need to look towards a different solution.

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>  
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:59 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

 

As long as it has good line of site and 5.8ghz is clean enough, it should work 
fine. According to the built in link calculator, it should be able to do 
149.76Mbps using 20mhz channels at 13 miles... if you need more than that, you 
can use wider channels, but that's going to be using pretty much the whole 
5.8ghz band.
 

  _  

From:  <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett 
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

 <http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators> 
http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators
 <http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf> 
http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf

Guessing 20 dB of Tx power, you should be able to maintain that if you have low 
noise. AF5 won't work in 5150. DFS won't reach that far, so you have to use 5.8.

For areas over -88 noise it probably won't work well. If noise permits, a 10 
MHz or 20 MHz channel will give you 100/100. If you can make 8x modulation, 10 
MHz should be fine. For each lower modulation, you'll need the next bigger 
channel (roughly).



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
 <http://www.ics-il.com> http://www.ics-il.com

 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>  
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>  
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>  
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 

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rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
To: "ubnt users" < <mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25:27 AM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi?

 

We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from one of 
our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber fed tower 
sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can shorten that to 
a single 13 Mile hop but I’m wondering if I can use an AF 5 for that hop and 
get the needed throughput.

 

Thanks,

Robert Haas

 

 


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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

[Robert Haas]

Thanks, sounds like I need to look towards a different solution.

 

 

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:59 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

 

As long as it has good line of site and 5.8ghz is clean enough, it should
work fine. According to the built in link calculator, it should be able to
do 149.76Mbps using 20mhz channels at 13 miles... if you need more than
that, you can use wider channels, but that's going to be using pretty much
the whole 5.8ghz band.
 

  _  

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett
[wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:35 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators
http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf

Guessing 20 dB of Tx power, you should be able to maintain that if you have
low noise. AF5 won't work in 5150. DFS won't reach that far, so you have to
use 5.8.

For areas over -88 noise it probably won't work well. If noise permits, a 10
MHz or 20 MHz channel will give you 100/100. If you can make 8x modulation,
10 MHz should be fine. For each lower modulation, you'll need the next
bigger channel (roughly).



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 



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From: "Robert Haas" mailto:rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com> >
To: "ubnt users" mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org> >
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25:27 AM
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi?

 

We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from one
of our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber fed
tower sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can
shorten that to a single 13 Mile hop but I'm wondering if I can use an AF 5
for that hop and get the needed throughput.

 

Thanks,

Robert Haas

 

 


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[Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

[Robert Haas]

Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi?

 

We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from one
of our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber fed
tower sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can
shorten that to a single 13 Mile hop but I'm wondering if I can use an AF 5
for that hop and get the needed throughput.

 

Thanks,

Robert Haas

 

 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] diablo1-airmax-northeast5.7 SSID

[Robert]

An aside about Mt Diablo, from the top with the right atmospheric
conditions, it's the second largest land area visible from one spot on
earth, after Mt Kilamanjaro. How about that for coverage?

On 11/08/2014 05:58 AM, Kees H wrote:
> Thanks all.  I got the answer.
> 
> - Original Message -
> *From:* TJ Trout 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 9:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] diablo1-airmax-northeast5.7 SSID
> 
> Might help if we knew what part of the world???
> 
> On Nov 7, 2014 6:59 PM, "Kees H"  > wrote:
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 24 or 5

[Robert]

Or the lake has risen to the point that you are no longer able to use
the name "AirFiber"

On 10/22/2014 04:29 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
> If you get rain fade at the distance, your radios fell in the lake.  
> 
> Rory
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:24 PM
> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airfiber 24 or 5
> 
> On 10/22/14, 16:19, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> FYI... the good news is, there is NO Rain Fade at that distance.
> 
> 
> If there is you probably have bigger problems to deal with.
> 
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