Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Kees H.]

I assume it was a nano beam 19 dbi

-Original Message- 
From: Jan-OOLLC 
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 11:39 AM 
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest 

This sounds like a solution.  Did you mean you powered a travel trailer 
or something else by name of nb19?

Jan V

On 01/26/2018 05:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
>
> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> I think about for first attempt?
>>
> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
> ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
>
> http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx
>

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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Jan-OOLLC]

This sounds like a solution.  Did you mean you powered a travel trailer 
or something else by name of nb19?

Jan V

On 01/26/2018 05:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
>
> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> I think about for first attempt?
>>
> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
> ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
>
> http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx
>

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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Robert]

So their warning about only using them for POE cameras not IP isn't true?

On 01/26/2018 11:13 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
> Nice. I may try one of these for a project coming up. Thanks Mike
> 
> 
> On 1/26/2018 1:19 PM, mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I usually roll my own extenders. I purchase these:
>>
>> UHPPOTE 1 Port 10/100M PoE Extender IEEE802.3af For Ethernet Security 
>> Systems IP Camera 
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M28RTKZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4c3AAb59M2VEK
>>
>> Install them in an outdoor box
>>
>> $30 for an outdoor box, $20 for an extender, $50 total instead of the 
>> over-priced veracity units.
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:07, David Hulsebus  wrote:
>>>
 On 1/26/2018 10:33 AM, Robert wrote:
 What price for these?
>>> I think $600 for the pair of long extenders and  a power supply sold
>>> separately.  Plus $200 for direct bury cat5e. We used a small $30
>>> plastic box to house the extender at the end of the driveway and a pole
>>> to mount the radio to. The 56 vdc out is 802.3af so the Veracity units
>>> will run an ip camera directly. We added a ubiquiti converter for 24 vdc
>>> to power the beam 19 - don't remember it's cost - less than $100.
> On 1/26/18 5:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> I think about for first attempt?
>>
> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
> ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
>
> http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[David Hulsebus]

Nice. I may try one of these for a project coming up. Thanks Mike


On 1/26/2018 1:19 PM, mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> I usually roll my own extenders. I purchase these:
>
> UHPPOTE 1 Port 10/100M PoE Extender IEEE802.3af For Ethernet Security Systems 
> IP Camera 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M28RTKZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4c3AAb59M2VEK
>
> Install them in an outdoor box
>
> $30 for an outdoor box, $20 for an extender, $50 total instead of the 
> over-priced veracity units.
>
> -Mike
>
>> On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:07, David Hulsebus  wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/26/2018 10:33 AM, Robert wrote:
>>> What price for these?
>> I think $600 for the pair of long extenders and  a power supply sold
>> separately.  Plus $200 for direct bury cat5e. We used a small $30
>> plastic box to house the extender at the end of the driveway and a pole
>> to mount the radio to. The 56 vdc out is 802.3af so the Veracity units
>> will run an ip camera directly. We added a ubiquiti converter for 24 vdc
>> to power the beam 19 - don't remember it's cost - less than $100.
 On 1/26/18 5:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:

> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
> I think about for first attempt?
>
 We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
 CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
 ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v

 http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx

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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[David Hulsebus]

Our only issue was a lightning strike nearby in the first year that 
cooked one side. Veracity replaced it under warranty no questions asked. 
It's been 2 years since and haven't rebooted it once. I'm sure power has 
been out a few times though. YMMV


On 1/26/2018 10:49 AM, Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users wrote:
> We have deployed these at 2 locations and while they work, they do seem to 
> need an occasional reboot. I would make sure that the devices are easily 
> accessible by someone onsite who can cycle the power should traffic stop 
> flowing.
>
> Paul Tackett, COO
> (406)284-3174x105
> p...@latmt.com
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 08:34
> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
>
> What price for these?
>
> On 1/26/18 5:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
>>
>> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and
>>> catch dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what
>>> cameras should I think about for first attempt?
>>>
>> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house
>> with
>> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add
>> a ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
>>
>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://veracityglobal.com/produc
>> ts/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx=E,1,M71OduAZpmy55fB7gPYfnj
>> MYYmucDRAui8YZG6nGT-9nWpdAT8Mu-nmg4IqFK1a7FqHIVoSMAfTbAfddCtzpDsdL4sFa
>> _PTzglmELYARr2EM61JCo-8pjFYm=1
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[mike . lyon]

I usually roll my own extenders. I purchase these:

UHPPOTE 1 Port 10/100M PoE Extender IEEE802.3af For Ethernet Security Systems 
IP Camera https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M28RTKZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4c3AAb59M2VEK

Install them in an outdoor box

$30 for an outdoor box, $20 for an extender, $50 total instead of the 
over-priced veracity units.

-Mike

> On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:07, David Hulsebus  wrote:
> 
>> On 1/26/2018 10:33 AM, Robert wrote:
>> What price for these?
> I think $600 for the pair of long extenders and  a power supply sold 
> separately.  Plus $200 for direct bury cat5e. We used a small $30 
> plastic box to house the extender at the end of the driveway and a pole 
> to mount the radio to. The 56 vdc out is 802.3af so the Veracity units 
> will run an ip camera directly. We added a ubiquiti converter for 24 vdc 
> to power the beam 19 - don't remember it's cost - less than $100.
>> 
>>> On 1/26/18 5:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
>>> 
 On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
 I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
 little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
 dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
 I think about for first attempt?
 
>>> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
>>> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
>>> ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
>>> 
>>> http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx
>>> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[David Hulsebus]

On 1/26/2018 10:33 AM, Robert wrote:
> What price for these?
I think $600 for the pair of long extenders and  a power supply sold 
separately.  Plus $200 for direct bury cat5e. We used a small $30 
plastic box to house the extender at the end of the driveway and a pole 
to mount the radio to. The 56 vdc out is 802.3af so the Veracity units 
will run an ip camera directly. We added a ubiquiti converter for 24 vdc 
to power the beam 19 - don't remember it's cost - less than $100.
>
> On 1/26/18 5:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
>>
>> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>>> I think about for first attempt?
>>>
>> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
>> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
>> ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
>>
>> http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Paul Tackett via Ubnt_users]

We have deployed these at 2 locations and while they work, they do seem to need 
an occasional reboot. I would make sure that the devices are easily accessible 
by someone onsite who can cycle the power should traffic stop flowing.

Paul Tackett, COO
(406)284-3174x105
p...@latmt.com



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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 08:34
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

What price for these?

On 1/26/18 5:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a 
>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and 
>> catch dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what 
>> cameras should I think about for first attempt?
>>
> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house 
> with
> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add 
> a ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
> 
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://veracityglobal.com/produc
> ts/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx=E,1,M71OduAZpmy55fB7gPYfnj
> MYYmucDRAui8YZG6nGT-9nWpdAT8Mu-nmg4IqFK1a7FqHIVoSMAfTbAfddCtzpDsdL4sFa
> _PTzglmELYARr2EM61JCo-8pjFYm=1
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Robert]

What price for these?

On 1/26/18 5:51 AM, David Hulsebus wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> I think about for first attempt?
>>
> We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with
> CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a
> ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v
> 
> http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx
> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[David Hulsebus]

On 1/25/2018 2:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
> I think about for first attempt?
>
We used a pair of these to power a NB19 about 1200 ft from a house with 
CAT5 up a driveway to clear woods. It runs a 56 vdc so you need to add a 
ubiquiti convertor to get it back to 24v

http://veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-devices/longspan.aspx

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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Mitch]

It would be easier to answer if we new

the particulars of the location for install

I would think the trail cams with batteries and cellular might be the

quick and dirty way?

Mitch


On 1/25/2018 3:37 PM, Roy wrote:
> How about Arlo GO
>
> http://arlo.com/en-us/products/arlo-go/default.aspx?cid=us-arlo-pro-srch
>
> Battery Powered and uses LTE
>
>
>
> On 1/25/2018 1:37 PM, nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
>> Cheapest, quickest, I would think to try would be 3
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-RouterBOARD-lite-ports-router/dp/B00ZPTW8T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8=1516912362=8-10=mikrotik+poe+switch
>>
>> With the camera hung on the end..Space the POE switches to retime
>> the ethernet.   Start with 30 Volts.   Sounds like you have power at the
>> other end to power the cameras?
>>
>> Power the last switch from the other end
>>
>> Bunch of assumptions there..1000 feet of direct bury laid on the
>> ground without anything in the way and how many cameras?
>>
>>
>> On 1/25/18 12:22 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>>> I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
>>> are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
>>> the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
>>> way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
>>>
>>> Jan V
>>>
>>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>>>
 little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
 dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
 I think about for first attempt?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Roy]

How about Arlo GO

http://arlo.com/en-us/products/arlo-go/default.aspx?cid=us-arlo-pro-srch

Battery Powered and uses LTE



On 1/25/2018 1:37 PM, nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
> Cheapest, quickest, I would think to try would be 3
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-RouterBOARD-lite-ports-router/dp/B00ZPTW8T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8=1516912362=8-10=mikrotik+poe+switch
>
> With the camera hung on the end..Space the POE switches to retime
> the ethernet.   Start with 30 Volts.   Sounds like you have power at the
> other end to power the cameras?
>
> Power the last switch from the other end
>
> Bunch of assumptions there..1000 feet of direct bury laid on the
> ground without anything in the way and how many cameras?
>
>
> On 1/25/18 12:22 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
>> are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
>> the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
>> way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
>>
>> Jan V
>>
>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>>
>>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>>> I think about for first attempt?
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[nospam]

Cheapest, quickest, I would think to try would be 3


https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-RouterBOARD-lite-ports-router/dp/B00ZPTW8T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8=1516912362=8-10=mikrotik+poe+switch

With the camera hung on the end..Space the POE switches to retime 
the ethernet.   Start with 30 Volts.   Sounds like you have power at the 
other end to power the cameras?

Power the last switch from the other end

Bunch of assumptions there..1000 feet of direct bury laid on the 
ground without anything in the way and how many cameras?


On 1/25/18 12:22 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
> I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
> are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
> the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
> way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
>
> Jan V
>
> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>
>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> I think about for first attempt?
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Galen Manners]

Might be way off base but have you considered a trail (game) camera with 
cellular (if you have cellular service in the area).  Lots of different 
options to choose from.  Just a thought.




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Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

>I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
>are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
>the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
>way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
>
>Jan V
>
>I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>
>>little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>>dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras 
>>should
>>I think about for first attempt?
>>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Jan-OOLLC]

I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards 
are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in 
the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap 
way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?

Jan V

I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a

> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
> I think about for first attempt?
>

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Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Mimbres Communications]

How dense a forest?

2.4 GHz airMAX AC is cheap enough to test with.  7.5W max on the CPEs.

UVC Gen3 draws 4W max (less during the day when the IR is off).



On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC 
wrote:

> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
> I think about for first attempt?
>
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> Jan V
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[Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest

[Jan-OOLLC]

I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a 
little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch 
dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should 
I think about for first attempt?

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Jan V

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