RE: [Ubuntu] Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer 6.0.0-beta1 release -Please test!
Alan, Thanks for the ubuntugis repository. It took me a good bit of trying today but I got Mapserver 6.0 installed today by building from source. I'm not sure I've got it all right but I've got a working version for testing. I'd prefer to just load from the repository. Could you add "--with-cairo" to the next build to allow pdf output. Thanks Worth _ From: ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Alan Boudreault Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:13 PM To: mapserver-us...@lists.osgeo.org Cc: ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org; mapserver-d...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [Ubuntu] Re: [mapserver-users] MapServer 6.0.0-beta1 release -Please test! The binaries of MapServer 6.0.0-beta1 are now available in UbuntuGIS for Ubuntu hardy, lucid and maverick. ubuntugis-testing ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntugis-testing/ Alan On March 9, 2011 09:47:54 pm Daniel Morissette wrote: > The MapServer Team is pleased to announce the release of MapServer > 6.0.0-beta1. This is the first beta on our way to a final 6.0 release. > > This new release introduces important changes in key components of the > MapServer core (rendering, query and expressions), and for this reason > we count on you, MapServer power users, to help test the release in your > respective environments and provide feedback (through the users list or > Trac tickets). > > The timing and feedback for this first beta is very important since it > comes one week before the Montreal Code Sprint where about a dozen > participants will be working specifically on MapServer and will have a > chance to tackle important 6.0 issues that may be found and reported. > > Here is a quick list of RFCs documenting some of the new features or > important changes in 6.0. This list is not complete, we will update it > as we polish the release documentation: > > Core Changes in MapServer 6.0 which could affect existing applications: > > * MS RFC 54: Rendering Interface API > * MS RFC 64: MapServer Expression Parser Overhaul > * MS RFC 65: Single-pass Query Changes for 6.0 > > New Features and Enhancements in MapServer 6.0: > > * MS RFC 58: Kml Output > * MS RFC 60: Labeling enhancement: ability to skip ANGLE FOLLOW labels > with too much character overlap > * MS RFC 61: Enhance MapServer Feature Style Support > * MS RFC 62: Support Additional WFS GetFeature Output Formats > * MS RFC 63: Built-in OpenLayers map viewer > * MS RFC 66: Better handling of temporary files > * MS RFC 67: Enable/Disable Layers in OGC Web Services > * MS RFC 68: Support for combining features from multiple layers > * MS RFC 69: Support for clustering of features in point layers > > (RFCs are available online at http://mapserver.org/development/rfc/) > > As usual there an a large number of additional small enhancements and > bug fixes. For a complete list see the HISTORY.TXT file at: > > > http://svn.osgeo.org/mapserver/tags/rel-6-0-0-beta1/mapserver/HISTORY.TXT > > We have started working on a 5.6 -> 6.0 migration guide. This document > contains important notes on backwards incompatibilities or other changes > required when upgrading to 6.0. It is not complete yet but we strongly > recommend that you review the latest version online at: > > http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/browser/trunk/mapserver/MIGRATION_GUIDE.TXT > > The source for this release can be downloaded at: > > http://mapserver.org/download.html > or > http://download.osgeo.org/mapserver/mapserver-6.0.0-beta1.tar.gz > > The binary distributions listed in the download page should be updated > with binaries for the new 6.0.0-beta1 release in the next day or so. > > > This is the first of four planned beta releases and if all goes well a > final release should occur around the end of April. The full release > plan can be viewed at: > >http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/60ReleasePlan > > Once again we need your help to ensure a high quality product, > especially for this beta due to its timing with next week's Code Sprint, > so please help out by testing your applications with this new code base. > > Thanks! - The MapServer Team > ___ > mapserver-users mailing list > mapserver-us...@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1497/3495 - Release Date: 03/09/11 ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
[Ubuntu] MapServer 6.2 with svg symbol support
Hi, It appears that the ubuntugis-unstable version of Mapserver does not have the new support for SVG symbols compiled in. worth@VPR1:~$ mapserv -v MapServer version 6.2.0 OUTPUT=GIF OUTPUT=PNG OUTPUT=JPEG SUPPORTS=PROJ SUPPORTS=GD SUPPORTS=AGG SUPPORTS=FREETYPE SUPPORTS=CAIRO SUPPORTS=ICONV SUPPORTS=FRIBIDI SUPPORTS=WMS_SERVER SUPPORTS=WMS_CLIENT SUPPORTS=WFS_SERVER SUPPORTS=WFS_CLIENT SUPPORTS=WCS_SERVER SUPPORTS=SOS_SERVER SUPPORTS=FASTCGI SUPPORTS=THREADS SUPPORTS=GEOS INPUT=JPEG INPUT=POSTGIS INPUT=OGR INPUT=GDAL INPUT=SHAPEFILE I assume if it was included in the build, it would show above. Could this be added the Mapserver build? For both cgi and mapscript. Are there any other new items added to MapServer which have not been compiled into the version built in the ubuntugis ppa. I would like to install from the ppa and not have to compile a special version to use SVG symbols. Thanks, Worth Lutz ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.2 with svg symbol support
Thanks! And I assume you'll announce the new build on this list. Worth Lutz _ From: ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Alan Boudreault Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:39 AM To: ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.2 with svg symbol support Hi, That is right. Unfortunately, we found that it's not only an buid option to add. There are svg dependencies that are not packaged yet. We are going to take a look at them as soon as possible and rebuild mapserver with the support. Alan On 11/18/2012 08:26 PM, Worth Lutz wrote: Hi, It appears that the ubuntugis-unstable version of Mapserver does not have the new support for SVG symbols compiled in. worth@VPR1:~$ mapserv -v MapServer version 6.2.0 OUTPUT=GIF OUTPUT=PNG OUTPUT=JPEG SUPPORTS=PROJ SUPPORTS=GD SUPPORTS=AGG SUPPORTS=FREETYPE SUPPORTS=CAIRO SUPPORTS=ICONV SUPPORTS=FRIBIDI SUPPORTS=WMS_SERVER SUPPORTS=WMS_CLIENT SUPPORTS=WFS_SERVER SUPPORTS=WFS_CLIENT SUPPORTS=WCS_SERVER SUPPORTS=SOS_SERVER SUPPORTS=FASTCGI SUPPORTS=THREADS SUPPORTS=GEOS INPUT=JPEG INPUT=POSTGIS INPUT=OGR INPUT=GDAL INPUT=SHAPEFILE I assume if it was included in the build, it would show above. Could this be added the Mapserver build? For both cgi and mapscript. Are there any other new items added to MapServer which have not been compiled into the version built in the ubuntugis ppa. I would like to install from the ppa and not have to compile a special version to use SVG symbols. Thanks, Worth Lutz ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2629/5903 - Release Date: 11/18/12 ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
[Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04
I happened to notice that MapServer 6.4 was build today for saucy on ubuntu-unstable. Will it be built for precise any time soon? Thanks, Worth Lutz ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04
Hi Jerome, I'm just asking as I think there is a feature I could use. I'm not in a hurry. Thanks for the work you do on UbuntuGIS, Worth _ From: ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jerome Villeneuve Larouche Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:32 AM To: ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04 Hi, I can't really say. I don't have much time for UbuntuGIS currently. That's also why the update to Saucy is going slowly. I'll try to find some time after Christmas to at least push mapserver. Sorry for the delay. On 13-12-18 04:41 PM, Worth Lutz wrote: I happened to notice that MapServer 6.4 was build today for saucy on ubuntu-unstable. Will it be built for precise any time soon? Thanks, Worth Lutz ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04
Jerome, Thanks for building Mapserver 6.4 for precise! Worth _ From: ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jerome Villeneuve Larouche Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:32 AM To: ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04 Hi, I can't really say. I don't have much time for UbuntuGIS currently. That's also why the update to Saucy is going slowly. I'll try to find some time after Christmas to at least push mapserver. Sorry for the delay. On 13-12-18 04:41 PM, Worth Lutz wrote: I happened to notice that MapServer 6.4 was build today for saucy on ubuntu-unstable. Will it be built for precise any time soon? Thanks, Worth Lutz ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04
Jerome, I tried to update MapServer and also seem to have also updated apache2 from the ppa at the same time. I wasn't watching what I was doing. The apache2 update has broken apache. Luckily this is my sandbox server with nothing that important on it. :) Is Apache2-v2.4 needed for the update to MapServer?? How do I revert the Apache installation? Worth ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04
Johan, I've got something working but have broken some other stuff. I think that I should have waited before starting to repair things until I heard from this list. But sometimes I get impatient. :) And Google gives LOTS of answers! :) Here is what got apache running again on my server: sudo apt-get update# this was needed to get rid of the one in ubuntugis sudo apt-get install apache2=2.2.22-1ubuntu1.4 sudo service apache2 restart apache2 did NOT restart at this point. There were modules enabled which were not available. With each restart try I found another one. Thus: a2dismod access_compat a2dismod authn_core a2dismod authz_core a2dismod mpm_prefork Eventually I got rid of the unavailable modules. None of these were enabled on my other systems so I should be ok. Hopefully that is all I need to fix. Thanks for your help. I hope no one else got caught by this. I just have been waiting for this update of MapServer and wanted to test some things. Worth -Original Message- From: Johan Van de Wauw [mailto:johan.vandew...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 4:28 PM To: Worth Lutz Subject: Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04 Worth, pressed the send button a bit too fast. Try sudo apt-get install apache2=2.2.22-1ubuntu1.4 based on the rollbackupdate link above On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: > Jerome, > > I think we should not include apache2 in ubuntugis: this is an > important server package with an enormous amount of reverse > dependencies. > Moreover we can not provide the necessary security updates that a > package like apache2 requires. > > Since your package seems to break some existing installs I will remove > the package from unstable and move it to testing (so we still have > your changes). > > If you still consider the update needed discuss that one definitely on > this list first. > > Worth: > I will first remove apache2 from the repository. > Some instructions on rolling back an install: > https://wiki.debian.org/RollbackUpdate > > Johan > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Worth Lutz wrote: >> Jerome, >> >> I tried to update MapServer and also seem to have also updated apache2 from >> the ppa at the same time. I wasn't watching what I was doing. >> >> The apache2 update has broken apache. Luckily this is my sandbox server with >> nothing that important on it. :) >> >> Is Apache2-v2.4 needed for the update to MapServer?? >> >> How do I revert the Apache installation? >> >> Worth >> >> ___ >> UbuntuGIS mailing list >> Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04
I believe that the latest update to the mapserver package is broken. Apache 2.4 was originally added to the ppa and broke my system. It was removed from the ppa but I think that the mapserver package requires apache 2.4 which has a later version of php5. I'm not sure what is needed to run the new version of mapserver but all these version changes have messed things up on my system as well. I don't know much about packaging but do really appreciate the people who do and can keep all this straight. I'm sure this will be straightened out soon. Worth -Original Message- From: ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:ubuntu-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Randal Hale Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:15 PM To: ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04 I just did an update of mapserver and updated php5-mapscript and it's tossing an error. If I may say these lists are quite amazing - on the geomoose list they were just talking about the upgrade. I've been following their lead and install php5-mapscript and thats when it tossed an error: Setting up php5-mapscript (6.4.1-3~precise1) ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-mapscript.postinst: 11: /var/lib/dpkg/info/php5-mapscript.postinst: php5enmod: not found dpkg: error processing php5-mapscript (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127 Errors were encountered while processing: php5-mapscript E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I guess the big question is this something on my end or a problem with mapserver? I'm on a VM of 12.04 LTS BTW - thanks for the upgrade to 6.4.1 - I was in the middle of compiling and was going slightly cross eyed. Randy - Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com <mailto:rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale On 01/17/2014 05:07 PM, Worth Lutz wrote: > Johan, > > I've got something working but have broken some other stuff. I think that I > should have waited before starting to repair things until I heard from this > list. > > But sometimes I get impatient. :) And Google gives LOTS of answers! :) > > Here is what got apache running again on my server: > > sudo apt-get update# this was needed to get rid of the one in ubuntugis > sudo apt-get install apache2=2.2.22-1ubuntu1.4 > sudo service apache2 restart > > apache2 did NOT restart at this point. There were modules enabled which were > not available. With each restart try I found another one. > Thus: > > a2dismod access_compat > a2dismod authn_core > a2dismod authz_core > a2dismod mpm_prefork > > Eventually I got rid of the unavailable modules. None of these were enabled > on my other systems so I should be ok. > > Hopefully that is all I need to fix. > > Thanks for your help. I hope no one else got caught by this. I just have > been waiting for this update of MapServer and wanted to test some things. > > Worth > > -----Original Message- > From: Johan Van de Wauw [mailto:johan.vandew...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 4:28 PM > To: Worth Lutz > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu] MapServer 6.4 on Ubuntu 12.04 > > Worth, > > pressed the send button a bit too fast. Try > sudo apt-get install apache2=2.2.22-1ubuntu1.4 > based on the rollbackupdate link above > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Johan Van de Wauw > wrote: >> Jerome, >> >> I think we should not include apache2 in ubuntugis: this is an >> important server package with an enormous amount of reverse >> dependencies. >> Moreover we can not provide the necessary security updates that a >> package like apache2 requires. >> >> Since your package seems to break some existing installs I will remove >> the package from unstable and move it to testing (so we still have >> your changes). >> >> If you still consider the update needed discuss that one definitely on >> this list first. >> >> Worth: >> I will first remove apache2 from the repository. >> Some instructions on rolling back an install: >> https://wiki.debian.org/RollbackUpdate >> >> Johan >> >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Worth Lutz wrote: >>> Jerome, >>> >>> I tried to update MapServer and also seem to have also updated apache2 > from >>> the ppa at the same time. I wasn't watching what I was doing. >>> >>> The apache2 update has broken apache. Luckily this is my sandbox server > with >>> nothing that important on it. :) >>> >>> Is Apache2-v2.4 needed for the update to MapServer?? >>
[Ubuntu] Ubuntu 14.04 question
Hi All, I've been using ubuntu-gis/unstable to keep my MapServer stuff up to date on my ubuntu 12.04 servers. I just put together a development server with Ubuntu 14.04 and noticed that the latest MapServer etc. was already available. My question, what is the policy for updates to Ubuntu and when is it necessary to add the ppa to have access to the latest good stuff? I am unfamiliar with the process for updates. Thanks for educating me. Worth Lutz ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Stable update
I've got customers with servers running Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04. Older LTS versions of Ubuntu need access to the updates to GIS packages. As fixes and improvements get added, how will this be reflected in UbuntuGIS? I do not understand the process of how the Ubuntu packages get updated. In the past I've used UbuntuGis-unstable to get updated versions of MapServer which have fixes I needed to run on production servers. I think a defined policy of what is included in Stable, Unstable and Testing/Experimental is important. Thanks to all who are working to keep UbuntuGis up to date! *Worth Lutz* On 4/25/2016 9:15 PM, Alex Mandel wrote: On 04/25/2016 01:59 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: On 04/25/2016 11:45 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Alex M wrote: Historically we haven't done a great job of keeping stable very relevant, but people running servers in production really ought to be using it and not unstable. Maybe a clearer policy on when things should move to stable needs to be made (it is ok for some packages to be the same version as unstable). With quite DebianGIS quite up-to-date, Ubuntu already has rather recent versions of most packages. I think stable becomes perhaps even less relevant. For non-LTS releases I think we should not use it (well, never say never). For LTS releases, I think the policy of copying whatever gets on OSGeo live after the release is quite a good policy. It gets a lot of testing. Kind Regards, Johan ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki +1 to rename testing to experimental. Actually I have started building everything based on gdal 2.0 there already. Also, +1 for a policy to copy everything from OSGeoLive after release. Best, Angelos Only latest Ubuntu has recent versions of most packages. 12.04 and 14.04 actually have fairly old packages at this point but are still in wide use and will be for another 1,3 years respectively. UbuntuGIS stable is moot for Xenial but very important to Trusty. If someone needs to stick to QGIS 2.8 and GDAL 1.11.x stable is where they should be able to get that. In 6 months to a year stable will actually become important for Xenial too since QGIS 2.14 will be the LTS and should move to stable, with 2.16 and the upcoming 3.x series going to unstable... +1 to copying packages from osgeo-live, however we shouldn't let that timetable keep us from updating unstable whenever new releases come out. As I've said before in the past, if we can create simpler instructions for all the easyish packages, there are more volunteers who would gladly help keep packages flowing. I suppose we should make a list of who generally upkeeps which packages. Thanks, Alex ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Stable update
Thanks, My error on our versions. It's 12 & 14. I typed without thinking. I understand dependencies sometimes keep updates from getting to older systems. I was hoping to jump to 16.04 but will have to wait on php-mapscript. Thanks for your work in making these packages available. Worth > On Apr 26, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Alex Mandel wrote: > > Worth, > > 10.04 is past end of life from Ubuntu (2015) those people need to > upgrade if they want any updates from us or Ubuntu. > > 12.04 only has 1 year left (2017), so it's unlikely to get anything > except bugfix releases if possible (not always possible). > > Yes, this thread is about clarifying the policies. > > Thanks, > Alex > >> On 04/26/2016 07:50 AM, Worth Lutz wrote: >> I've got customers with servers running Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04. >> >> Older LTS versions of Ubuntu need access to the updates to GIS packages. >> As fixes and improvements get added, how will this be reflected in >> UbuntuGIS? >> >> I do not understand the process of how the Ubuntu packages get updated. >> In the past I've used UbuntuGis-unstable to get updated versions of >> MapServer which have fixes I needed to run on production servers. >> >> I think a defined policy of what is included in Stable, Unstable and >> Testing/Experimental is important. >> >> Thanks to all who are working to keep UbuntuGis up to date! >> >> *Worth Lutz* >> >> >>> On 4/25/2016 9:15 PM, Alex Mandel wrote: >>>> On 04/25/2016 01:59 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: >>>>> On 04/25/2016 11:45 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Alex M >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Historically we haven't done a great job of keeping stable very >>>>>> relevant, but people running servers in production really ought to be >>>>>> using it and not unstable. Maybe a clearer policy on when things >>>>>> should >>>>>> move to stable needs to be made (it is ok for some packages to be the >>>>>> same version as unstable). >>>>> With quite DebianGIS quite up-to-date, Ubuntu already has rather >>>>> recent versions of most packages. I think stable becomes perhaps even >>>>> less relevant. For non-LTS releases I think we should not use it >>>>> (well, never say never). For LTS releases, I think the policy of >>>>> copying whatever gets on OSGeo live after the release is quite a good >>>>> policy. It gets a lot of testing. >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> Johan >>>>> ___ >>>>> UbuntuGIS mailing list >>>>> Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org >>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki >>>> +1 to rename testing to experimental. Actually I have started building >>>> everything based on gdal 2.0 there already. >>>> Also, +1 for a policy to copy everything from OSGeoLive after release. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Angelos >>> Only latest Ubuntu has recent versions of most packages. >>> 12.04 and 14.04 actually have fairly old packages at this point but are >>> still in wide use and will be for another 1,3 years respectively. >>> >>> UbuntuGIS stable is moot for Xenial but very important to Trusty. If >>> someone needs to stick to QGIS 2.8 and GDAL 1.11.x stable is where they >>> should be able to get that. In 6 months to a year stable will actually >>> become important for Xenial too since QGIS 2.14 will be the LTS and >>> should move to stable, with 2.16 and the upcoming 3.x series going to >>> unstable... >>> >>> +1 to copying packages from osgeo-live, however we shouldn't let that >>> timetable keep us from updating unstable whenever new releases come out. >>> >>> As I've said before in the past, if we can create simpler instructions >>> for all the easyish packages, there are more volunteers who would gladly >>> help keep packages flowing. I suppose we should make a list of who >>> generally upkeeps which packages. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex >>> ___ >>> UbuntuGIS mailing list >>> Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >>> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> UbuntuGIS mailing list >> Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu >> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki > ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Stable update
I'm willing to help but know nothing about how to build a package. I'm mainly a consumer of packages. If someone could point me to a tutorial, I'll experiment some and see what I can learn. *Worth Lutz* On 4/29/2016 5:07 AM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: On 04/29/2016 08:46 AM, Rashad Kanavath wrote: What about LTS, non-LTS, experimental for repository names ? LTS will have packages for only the current LTS version of Ubuntu non-LTS will have packages for last three non-LTS releases experimental - packages that are testing / RC/ beta ? There are multiple LTS releases supported at any point in time, ideally those are supported by UbuntuGIS too. But the manpower is lacking in UbuntuGIS to maintain the packages for even one Ubuntu LTS release, let alone more than one. The manpower issue needs to be addressed before significant changes in UbuntuGIS can be expected. Kind Regards, Bas ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Stable update
Sebastiaan, Thanks for the info. I'll delve into it and see if I can understand it. You mention dealing with the version in Ubuntu and the version in UbuntuGIS. This is always something I have not understood. I've never understood the policies of how the versions come downstream from Debian to Ubuntu. What updates get made by DebianGIS? Do these flow down to Ubuntu? Or are Debian and Ubuntu stuck at a certain revision and a ppa like UbuntuGIS is used to provide updated packages? I've stumbled through this as a user and not understood the process and sometimes cannot get the latest fixes. I apologize for all the questions. Maybe the answers are in the info you referenced. If so, don't waste your time answering. :-) *Worth Lutz* On 4/29/2016 7:49 AM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: On 04/29/2016 01:32 PM, Worth Lutz wrote: I'm willing to help but know nothing about how to build a package. I'm mainly a consumer of packages. If someone could point me to a tutorial, I'll experiment some and see what I can learn. The git packaging workflow should help get you started: https://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/policy/packaging.html#git-packaging What packages have your interest? I suggest to start with those packages and rebuild the latest package revisions from the Debian GIS git repository for your Ubuntu release. Beware of library packages such as gdal, geos, spatialite, spatialindex, postgis, etc, these are non-trivial to maintain because you need to test all reverse dependencies when with new versions of those libraries. Handling such transitions properly is essential to not break the inter dependencies of the packages in the PPA. You also need to deal with the version in Ubuntu itself verses the one in UbuntuGIS. Kind Regards, Bas ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Stable update
WOW! That is a very complete explanation! It explains why I'm seeing PostgreSql updates and not MapServer. I hope I'll be able to figure out how to help. It looks like I'll be doing a lot of reading this weekend. Thanks, *Worth Lutz* On 4/29/2016 12:56 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: On 04/29/2016 04:33 PM, Worth Lutz wrote: You mention dealing with the version in Ubuntu and the version in UbuntuGIS. This is always something I have not understood. I've never understood the policies of how the versions come downstream from Debian to Ubuntu. What updates get made by DebianGIS? Do these flow down to Ubuntu? Or are Debian and Ubuntu stuck at a certain revision and a ppa like UbuntuGIS is used to provide updated packages? The Debian GIS team updates the packaging as soon as possible after a new upstream release is made. These packages are uploaded to Debian unstable most often, or to experimental in case of pre-releases or new releases that break the ABI and need a transition. Packages migrate from the Debian unstable repository to the testing repositories after 5 to 10 days if the version is not affected by a Release Critical bug. After about two years of development the package versions in the testing repository get frozen in preparation of the new stable release, the remaining release critical bugs get fixed after which the release is published (installer images generated, documentation updates, etc). Package revisions in the stable release remain frozen as they were in the testing suite in preparation of the release. Only security fixes and other important bugfixes are made to the packages in stable, this rules out upgrading to new upstream releases. Some exceptions exists like postgresql, mysql whose release engineering matches the Debian QA requirements. Ubuntu syncs new packages from Debian unstable as part of their development cycle. For the unstable suite this is a mostly automatic process. In preparation of a new release the development repository is frozen and a similar process as for Debian releases follows. After release only targeted fixes are included in packages. The general flow of a new upstream releases into Debian and Ubuntu releases is as follows: Upstream release ↳ Debian unstable → testing → stable ↳ Ubuntu development → release The Debian GIS team maintains source packages for most of the packages that are used in the UbuntuGIS PPA. Generally the process to update a package in the UbuntuGIS PPA is to checkout the latest revision from the Debian GIS git repository and create a no-change rebuild for the Ubuntu LTS release in question. This is not an automatic process, it requires some one involved in the UbuntuGIS team to prepare the builds for Ubuntu. Because updates to packages in the UbuntuGIS PPA are not governed by the strict rules for Ubuntu releases newer upstream versions can be provided, the popularity of the PPA proves the need for newer versions of the GIS packages than included in the Ubuntu releases. Backports for the Debian stable releases provide in a similar need for Debian stable users. Package revisions that have migrated to the testing repository and meet other requirements are eligible for backporting. The core libraries (gdal, geos, etc) are not good candidates for backports, because all packages that depend on any of the libraries need to be rebuilt for SONAME bumps and may need additional changes as well. Such updates are included in UbuntuGIS increasing the burden for its contributors because they need to manage those transitions themselves too. Kind Regards, Bas ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] QGis 3 on UbuntuGIS PPA
I'm trying to setup a laptop with Ubuntu 18.04 to use offline. I use MapServer from ubuntugis as a localhost wms server with apache. This works. I tried installing QGIS 3.4 and Grass but ran into problems. Ubuntugis/unstable has grass 7.4.2 for bionic and the QGIS grass plugin is wanting 7.4.0. There is no bionic build in the qgis.org/ubuntugis repository yet so I have this problem. Removing the ubuntugis ppa lets me install QGIS and Grass. It seems that there should be a ubuntugis build for bionic due to the upgrade to grass. Is that coming with the next point release? Is this the normal inconsistency problem with using ubuntugis which has been described in this email thread? The one which gets fixed at each QGIS point release and not with each change to ubuntugis? *Worth Lutz* On 11/1/2018 12:02 PM, Alex Mandel wrote: On 10/31/18 02:18, Micha Silver wrote: QGIS.org + ubuntugis unstable For the absolute latest of everything where you don't have to build it yourself. While it's true that recent Ubuntu has newer of everything, if you use a LTS variant of Ubuntu you will quickly be behind without using the QGIS.org and ubuntugis repos. Bionic will soon be in the same situation as Xenial. For places of work, I only use LTS releases of Ubuntu. Actually a few years back personally I stopped using non-LTS releases of Ubuntu at all, too many minor quirks on each update, was only important if you had really new hardware that wasn't supported by older releases, which is mostly solved by the HWE where newer kernels can be installed on LTS releases. Thanks, Alex ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] QGis 3 on UbuntuGIS PPA
Hi Jurgen, On 11/15/2018 2:29 AM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: Hi Worth Lutz, ... Is this the normal inconsistency problem with using ubuntugis which has been described in this email thread? The one which gets fixed at each QGIS point release and not with each change to ubuntugis? No, this just because ubuntugis doesn't offer much newer dependencies for bionic - only GRASS 7.4.2 instead of GRASS 7.4.0. Jürgen So the next point release of Qgis will not include a release for bionic in the qgis.org/ubuntugis repo? I'm asking because I need ubuntugis/unstable for MapServer and am wondering how to keep things in sync for QGIS without the above referenced release. I don't want to make work for you all. :) I am just trying to understand what I need to do to keep up to date but not broken. Thanks for all you do, *Worth Lutz* ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
[Ubuntu] update MapServer to v7.4 in unstable?
Hi, Is there a plan to update MapServer to the recently released v7.4 in unstable for bionic? Thanks, -- *Worth Lutz* ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
