[Ubuntu] Handling transitions in UbuntuGIS
Triggered by the recent spatialite-gui report, I've setup an experimental transition tracker for the ubuntugis-unstable PPA to check the state of the other packages. Currently only trusty and xenial are checked, precise is not worth the effort IMNSHO: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/trusty/ http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/xenial/ For trusty seems to need some more rebuilds, xenial is looking good for the xenial packages in the PPA. Unfortunately the ben tool used for the transition trackers, is not able to handle the Ubuntu repositories + PPA repo setup well, it can only use the Packages files from the PPA, so you don't see the other reverse dependencies available in Ubuntu that haven't been rebuild with the library package in the PPA. Compare the list of affected packages in the trackers for Debian unstable, Ubuntu trusty & xenial (with the 'good' checkbox checked): * GDAL transition unstable: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/html/gdal.html trusty: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/trusty/html/gdal.html xenial: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/xenial/html/gdal.html * GEOS transition unstable: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/html/geos.html trusty: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/trusty/html/geos.html xenial: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/xenial/html/geos.html * GRASS transition unstable: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/html/grass.html trusty: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/trusty/html/grass.html xenial: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/xenial/html/grass.html Notice how libgdal-grass is missing for xenial for example. How are transitions in UbuntuGIS handled currently? Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Handling transitions in UbuntuGIS
Hi Ivan, On 07/24/2016 11:54 PM, Ivan Mincik wrote: > On 24/07/16 03:59, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >> Triggered by the recent spatialite-gui report, I've setup an >> experimental transition tracker for the ubuntugis-unstable PPA to check >> the state of the other packages. >> >> Currently only trusty and xenial are checked, precise is not worth the >> effort IMNSHO: >> >> http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/trusty/ >> http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/xenial/ >> >> For trusty seems to need some more rebuilds, xenial is looking good for >> the xenial packages in the PPA. > > Thank you very much for that effort. State of Trusty confirms that > transition tracker is very good idea. Are you planning to maintain > transitions wit Ben for the future ? Perhaps, if there is sufficient demand to use the transition trackers for UbuntuGIS too. I'd rather not be the SPOF for changes to the ben configuration and move it to some ubuntugis team webspace, lacking that on osgeo.org infrastructure it may be moved to the Debian GIS webspace on Alioth. Since Alioth doesn't have ben installed the cronjob will need to run elsewhere and publish to Alioth. >> Unfortunately the ben tool used for the transition trackers, is not able >> to handle the Ubuntu repositories + PPA repo setup well, it can only use >> the Packages files from the PPA, so you don't see the other reverse >> dependencies available in Ubuntu that haven't been rebuild with the >> library package in the PPA. > > Is it very complicated to add that support to Ben ? The biggest hurdle is learning enough OCaml. Templates for the HTML pages are compiled into some binary format making even that process complicated. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Handling transitions in UbuntuGIS
Hi Bas, The transitions have been handled manually so far. Thanks for this tracker, it seems a better way to handle things. Best, Angelos On 07/23/2016 06:59 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: Triggered by the recent spatialite-gui report, I've setup an experimental transition tracker for the ubuntugis-unstable PPA to check the state of the other packages. Currently only trusty and xenial are checked, precise is not worth the effort IMNSHO: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/trusty/ http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/xenial/ For trusty seems to need some more rebuilds, xenial is looking good for the xenial packages in the PPA. Unfortunately the ben tool used for the transition trackers, is not able to handle the Ubuntu repositories + PPA repo setup well, it can only use the Packages files from the PPA, so you don't see the other reverse dependencies available in Ubuntu that haven't been rebuild with the library package in the PPA. Compare the list of affected packages in the trackers for Debian unstable, Ubuntu trusty & xenial (with the 'good' checkbox checked): * GDAL transition unstable: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/html/gdal.html trusty: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/trusty/html/gdal.html xenial: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/xenial/html/gdal.html * GEOS transition unstable: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/html/geos.html trusty: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/trusty/html/geos.html xenial: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/xenial/html/geos.html * GRASS transition unstable: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/html/grass.html trusty: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/trusty/html/grass.html xenial: http://linuxminded.nl/tmp/pkg-grass-transitions/ubuntugis-unstable/xenial/html/grass.html Notice how libgdal-grass is missing for xenial for example. How are transitions in UbuntuGIS handled currently? Kind Regards, Bas -- Angelos Tzotsos, PhD OSGeo Charter Member http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Handling transitions in UbuntuGIS
Hi Angelos, On 07/26/2016 12:49 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > The transitions have been handled manually so far. > Thanks for this tracker, it seems a better way to handle things. I guess manually means running `apt-cache rdepends ` to determine the reverse dependencies and rebuilding those with new uploads? There were a number of old packages still included in Packages file, which I've removed by deleting all superseded packages in the PPA. The transition trackers look much better now, all geos rdeps in trusty are now good, and only eoxserver (0.3.2-0~trusty5) still depends on the old libgdal1h instead of libgdal20. Kind Regards, Bas -- GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Handling transitions in UbuntuGIS
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > > Currently only trusty and xenial are checked, precise is not worth the > effort IMNSHO: > > Just one remark: precise is still used a lot, and one important application are travis build scripts which are used by *a lot* of open source GIS applications out there. ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
