Re: Gedit focus issue (was, Re: Serious accessibility issue in Gnome 2.15.)

2006-08-15 Thread Willie Walker
Yep and Thanks!  I'm surprised there's not a
object:state-changed:focused event in the Edgy version.  I'm seeing that
on my box.  :-(

Will

On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:53 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi Will.  I'll take a stab at it.  
> 
> In Dapper:
> [...]
> window:maximize
> object:state-changed:iconified
> focus:
> object:property-change:accessible-value (8x)
> [...]
> 
> In Edgy:
> [...]
> window:maximize
> object:state-changed:iconified
> object:property-change:accessible-value (8x)
> object:state-changed:showing
> object:state-changed:visible
> object:state-changed:iconified
> [...]
> 
> Is that what you're looking for?
> 
> Take care.
> Joanie
> 
> > If someone has some time on their hands they might try seeing if there
> > are different event orderings between GNOME 2.14 and GNOME 2.15/16 for
> > this gedit maximize/unmaximize scenario.  The events of interest
> > probably include:  "focus:" "window:activate" "window:deactivate" and
> > "object:state-changed:focused".
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Gedit focus issue (was, Re: Serious accessibility issue in Gnome 2.15.)

2006-08-15 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hi Will.  I'll take a stab at it.  

In Dapper:
[...]
window:maximize
object:state-changed:iconified
focus:
object:property-change:accessible-value (8x)
[...]

In Edgy:
[...]
window:maximize
object:state-changed:iconified
object:property-change:accessible-value (8x)
object:state-changed:showing
object:state-changed:visible
object:state-changed:iconified
[...]

Is that what you're looking for?

Take care.
Joanie

> If someone has some time on their hands they might try seeing if there
> are different event orderings between GNOME 2.14 and GNOME 2.15/16 for
> this gedit maximize/unmaximize scenario.  The events of interest
> probably include:  "focus:" "window:activate" "window:deactivate" and
> "object:state-changed:focused".



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Re: Gedit focus issue (was, Re: Serious accessibility issue in Gnome 2.15.)

2006-08-15 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All:

Just to follow up...

I'm not sure of the exact cause of the differences here (e.g., metacity,
gedit?), but we put a workaround in Orca to handle the differences
between GNOME 2.14 and GNOME 2.15/16.  Thanks for reporting this
problem!

If someone has some time on their hands they might try seeing if there
are different event orderings between GNOME 2.14 and GNOME 2.15/16 for
this gedit maximize/unmaximize scenario.  The events of interest
probably include:  "focus:" "window:activate" "window:deactivate" and
"object:state-changed:focused".

Will

On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 12:46 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi all.  I just gave this a try.  I can confirm Al's findings.  And it
> seems to occur any time you resize the window (e.g. if it's maximized
> and you unmaximize it, the problem also occurs).
> 
> In answer to Will's questions/suggestions:
> 
> > This sounds like a separate problem.  Do you have someone that can
> > eyeball gedit for you to make sure keyboard focus is really back in the
> > gedit text area after you've maximized the window?  That is, is the
> > cursor really moving when you press the arrow keys?
> 
> Focus is really back in the gedit text area.  I arrow around but Orca
> says nothing.
> 
> > In addition, once you've maximized the window, can you try pressing F10
> > and then Escape (e.g., bring up an app menu and then dismiss it)?  This
> > might force a focus event on the gedit window and get the cursor routing
> > working again.
> 
> This does get it working again!
> 
> > Finally, did you verify that you don't see the problem on GNOME 2.14
> > using the same exact Orca bits? 
> 
> Yep! On my Dapper machine this does not occur.  And to be sure I had the
> same exact Orca bits, I just built from CVS on each machine.
> 
> Hope this helps! Take care.
> Joanie
> 
> 


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Re: RFC: Easier console accessibility configuration.

2006-08-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 14:40 +1000, Luke Yelavich wrote:

> However, I am wondering about how we may present these options to the 
> user. Even though speakup is a console tool, users may still wish to 
> enable it when in GNOME, and they also may wish to enable spoken boot. I 
> was thinking it may be possible to extend the assistive technologies 
> control panel somehow, and add a tab with the options available, but I 
> also think we should have a command-line tool available to 
> enable/disable/show status as well.
> 
The main trouble here I can forsee is that the option is deep into the
running machine and that people with the most limited accessibility will
not be able to reach it without help.

The option should also be at the very first boot of the CD, along with
the other accessibility options, and this should result not only in the
Live CD using this but inherently enabling it on the installed system as
well.

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Re: sudo and accessibility

2006-08-15 Thread George Kraft
I had to refresh the gnome-session patch with CVS HEAD, because other
patches had been committed in the interim.  To fix accessibility for
sudo GUI tasks on Ubuntu, then apply the below referenced patches to CVS
HEAD versions of at-spi, gnome-session, and gdm.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163132
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345428
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345434

Thanks for helping to test.

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[Bug 56452] Re: Crashes frequently

2006-08-15 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma


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Crashes frequently
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[Bug 56452] Crashes frequently

2006-08-15 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Public bug reported:

'at-spi_at-spi-registryd' crashes when trying to start an AT application
like gnopernicus.

See attached crash log

** Affects: at-spi (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Untriaged
 Status: Unconfirmed

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