I may have found a fairly easy way to install ubuntu with orca

2008-08-06 Thread mike coulombe
Hi, this is some info that I discovered by accident, but it may provide a way 
to install intrepid with orca. I didn't have time to test this, but will in the 
next few days.
   I discovered that if you enable accessibility on the hardy live cd with f5 
and the number three keys when you boot the live CD, you can set up the root 
account and log into it like you can on a installed system.
However, for some reason if you do not enable accessibility until you run orca 
after the live CD boots. You can still set up the root account, but for some 
reason you can not log into it. 
I will test this later, and if ubiquity works ok we should have a way to 
install with speech even though it will mean setting up the root account first. 
I really don't know why this can not be a option by default.
   The other thing I don't know yet is if installing from the root account will 
have any effect on the install process.
   Anyway I just thought I would share that information.
Mike.

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does anyone think a basic guide for new users is a good idea?

2008-08-06 Thread mike coulombe

   I am sending this to both the ubuntu accessibility and orca list.

   Hi, since I started using linux a few years ago I have received a great deal 
of help from this list. As a thanks I am willing to put together a basic guide 
for new users that will give them some basic information they can use to get 
started with orca and ubuntu. I use ubuntu as my main linux operating system so 
would describe it in this guide. However, I will also mention that there are 
several linux distributions that people can try.
   Anyway if you think a guide like this is a good idea, I am open to 
suggestions on what people would like to see included in it. 
If anyone has the current list of orca and gnome keyboard commands handy I am 
willing to include those lists at the end if you can send them to me.
   Mike.


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Re: does anyone think a basic guide for new users is a good idea?

2008-08-06 Thread Hugh Sasse
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008, mike coulombe wrote:

   [...] As a thanks I am willing to
   put together a basic guide for new users that will give them
   some basic information they can use to get started with orca and
   ubuntu. [...]

Definitely a good idea.  Trawling bookshops and the web there is
little info out there.

   [...] I am open
   to suggestions on what people would like to see included in it.

I'd like to know what support there is for people who prefer large
print.  Trying Ubuntu out a while back I had difficulties when I set
the fonts to be large, and whilst I appreciated the existence of a
magnifier, I felt it was rather limited in what it could do.
Getting terminal windows setup for high contrast, low glare (Eg
light on dark) with large print took a while as well, and I think
when I tried Vim there was no colour support in the terminal I
accessed.  Syntax highlighting is great help for trapping absent
small punctuation chars like `.

Then there are the braille users.  [My braille is dead slow, and I
don't know 8-dot anyway.]  This would be important for deafblind
people as well.

At present I won't be able to contribute anything to this, but the
time will come.

 Thank you,
 Hugh

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