I found a bug in intrepid

2008-08-24 Thread mike
Hi, I downloaded the latest live CD today and at the boot prompt pressed enter 
once, f5, 3 and enter twice.
Once the system booted I tried to run Orca. All it said was starting Orca 
preferences and never went any farther.
However, when I pressed control alt backspace it started talking.
So I ran the live CD normally and enabled accessibility after it was loaded. 
This time I was able to go through the steps with Orca, but after logging out 
and in again, Orca wanted to go through the steps of enabling accessibility 
again.
So there must be something wrong with the accessibility settings. 
Mike.

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a question about firefox

2008-08-24 Thread mike
Hi, maybe I have been using the wrong key in firefox for this. When on a page I 
can usually use backspace or alt left arrow to go back to the previous page.
But today I have been on some sights where this didn't work. Is there another 
key you are suppose to use to get to the previous web page?
Mike.

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good news about wireless connections

2008-08-24 Thread mike
   Hi, I was in the top panel today and found one of the icons took me into the 
wireless CONFIG. It was accessible with Orca from this point, and I was able to 
get connected.
Now here's something I don't understand. In the network devices my wireless 
card isn't even listed. I see two ether net devices, and a loop back device.
But we are on the right track, because I can now use ubuntu with my wireless 
network.
Mike.


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Re: can orca be set different for different programs

2008-08-24 Thread Luke Yelavich
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On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 03:15:13PM EST, mike wrote:
 Hi, is it possible to set Orca to speak in different voices for different 
 programs? If it can be, how do you do this?

Yes, I believe this is possible. When in the application, simply ress control + 
Orca + spacebar, to bring up orca preferences for that application.

Hope this helps.

Luke
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Re: method for accessing the installer doesn't work in intreped

2008-08-24 Thread Luke Yelavich
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On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 02:24:18AM EST, Mike Reiser wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 The method of accessing the installer doesn't seem to work in intreped.  
 When I down arrow, press f5, 3, enter enter, it brings up a log on 
 screen and I hit enter and orca doesn't come up in the installer.  Is 
 there another way of accessing it now?  Thanks,

First of all, use intrepid at your own risk, if it breaks, you get to keep both 
pieces.

Secondly, I am not aware of any issues with the installer, but I am not 
surprised something is broken. From after thursday, I will be able to focus 
more closely on accessibility bugs related to the live CD and installer, so 
I''l be able to do what I can to track this one down, and get it fixed.

Thanks for the heads up.

Luke
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Re: I think there is a problem with wubi in intrepid

2008-08-24 Thread Luke Yelavich
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On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:34:59AM EST, mike wrote:
 Hi, Has anyone tried the wubi windows installer in intrepid?
Here is what I found. First, it will not install from the CD like hardy 
 did, it has to download the file. That part works fine, and it seems to 
 install fine, but the computer will not boot into ubuntu after it installs. 
 I'm sure this will be fixed, but I just wanted to know if this is a known 
 problem? I do get a message that says invalid CD menu when I put the live CD 
 in the computer, so maybe this has something to do with it.

Since intrepid is a development release, you use it at your own risk. If i 
breaks, you get to keep both pieces.

I will ahve a look at wubi and accessibility in the coming weeks, but please 
note that wubi is undergoing a rewrite. I am not sure whether the rewritten 
version is on the CDs yet, but I do know that things are in a state of flux, 
and are not likely settled yet, so please bare with us while we sort out these 
issues.

Thanks for the heads up.

Luke
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Re: I found a bug in intrepid

2008-08-24 Thread Luke Yelavich
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 02:01:38AM EST, mike wrote:
 Hi, I downloaded the latest live CD today and at the boot prompt pressed 
 enter once, f5, 3 and enter twice.
 Once the system booted I tried to run Orca. All it said was starting Orca 
 preferences and never went any farther.
 However, when I pressed control alt backspace it started talking.
 So I ran the live CD normally and enabled accessibility after it was loaded. 
 This time I was able to go through the steps with Orca, but after logging out 
 and in again, Orca wanted to go through the steps of enabling accessibility 
 again.
 So there must be something wrong with the accessibility settings. 

Thanks for the report, I'll have a look later this week.

Luke
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Re: a question about firefox

2008-08-24 Thread Luke Yelavich
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 07:30:44AM EST, mike wrote:
 Hi, maybe I have been using the wrong key in firefox for this. When on a page 
 I can usually use backspace or alt left arrow to go back to the previous page.
 But today I have been on some sights where this didn't work. Is there another 
 key you are suppose to use to get to the previous web page?

Not that I know of, ALT + left arrow works for me.

Luke
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Re: could You try to think about making language selection menu more accessible?

2008-08-24 Thread Luke Yelavich
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:22:00PM EST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:
 Dear core developers of Ubuntu accessibility subsystems,
 
 I would like to please You, if your development team would be so kind and 
 if You would try to think about making language accessibility menu during 
 booting from A live CD more accessible. 

Unfortunately, this is not as easy as one might think, due to the way the 
language selection menu is done in the first place. The language selection is 
done by the CD boot utility, called gfxboot. Gfxboot is responsible for 
displaying the menu for choosing the CD options, the accessibility options, and 
the language selection. In order to make this speech friendly, gfxboot would 
have to be extended to know about sound cards, audio, and speech, which is way 
too much for an initial boot program.

Having said that, Ii have an idea as to how this could be done, and hope to 
work on it for the release after Ubuntu Intrepid. What I am thinking of doing, 
is asking the user for their language if they enable accessibility. So for 
example, one would boot the CD, press enter for Enlgish for the time being, but 
when they choose to use speech for example, before any desktop or installer is 
shown, they get asked the language they want, with speech or braille as 
requested.

I hope this sounds ok, but as I explained, making the initial language menu 
accessible is practically impossible.

Luke
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Re: why Your development team disabled automatic braille display detection and support during booting from A Ubuntu live CD?

2008-08-24 Thread Luke Yelavich
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:26:30PM EST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote:
 Good afternoon,
 
 I Am very sad and unhappy, that Your accessibility development team 
 considered to remove automatic braille display autodetection and support 
 during booting from A live CD. I found out, that Your development team 
 probably made this decision while officially publishing Ubuntu Hardy Heron 
 Live and later even official CD. I would like to please You, if You could 
 give Me atleast a short programmers explanation, why did You have to make 
 this change to ubuntu distribution. I very liked automatic braille display 
 detection algorithms and I have never problems, that Brltty displayed message 
 during booting up, that screen is not in A text mode. Because after starting 
 Gnome, I could start Orca Screen Reader and I could enable braille support.

Dispaly auto-detection is only possible for USB Braille displays, and even 
then, one of these displays had to be disabled for detection, due to it 
conflicting with other devices users used for serial devices, since the display 
and these serial devices used the same chip. Looking at the file that is 
responsible for the detection, /etc/udev/rules.d/85-brltty.rules, it appears 
that one of the HandyTech displays was the problem, which display it is 
exactly, I am not sure.

For serial/bluetooth displays, unfortunately at the moment manual configuration 
is required, since it is not easily possible to detect these displays. There is 
a mechanism in place to configure these displays when one chooses to use 
Braille from the live CD accessibility menu, however this is not yet speech 
enabled, something which I hope to address in the release of Ubuntu after 
intrepid.

If something else is broken, I would appreciate bug reports, and the steps you 
have taken to reproduce the problem. Unfortunately I do not have a USB Braille 
display, so cannot test and check detection myself.

I hope this clears things up, and please feel free to contact me should you 
have any further questions.

Luke
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I have a question about networking in intrepid

2008-08-24 Thread mike
Hi, has anyone tried networking in intrepid. I see my windows computer, but 
when I try to open a folder it asks for a password. I don't have a password on 
those folders.
It seems to me that this worked fine when I was on the wired network, so I will 
try that tomorrow.
But if it is the wireless causing this, does anyone know why?
Mike.

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has networking changed in intrepid?

2008-08-24 Thread mike
Good evening. In older versions of ubuntu you had to download the windows share 
package. In intrepid I was not asked about sharing folders with windows 
networks when I shared a folder.
Is this now automatic? Or is there something that has to be done differently?
Thanks Mike.

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