installing hardy from live

2010-03-23 Thread michael weaver
how do you install hardy with orca after running the live cd?
i ask because at the moment i have got a hardy cd which i burned 
before experienceing problems with my laptop and i have a copy of 
lucid beta which will not allow me to login after going through 
the setup because it says "welcome to orca" just after asking me 
if i wish to logout after running through the settup.

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Re: upgrade preperations

2010-03-23 Thread Pia
If you have an LTS to LTS upgrade actually work, please report back and 
let us know.  I have been adminning about 150 Ubuntu boxen at work here 
for 3 years and have never had an LTS to LTS upgrade go smoothly.  If you 
read the docs for Lucid Beta 1 it seems to imply, if you read between the 
lines, that such an upgrade would only work for servers but not for 
anything with a GUI.  I think your best bet would be to make a back up of 
your root partition so that it is recent and then do a fresh install, 
recovering anything from your fresh back up of your root partition that 
you might need.  I personally tend to install a lot of customized programs 
locally and so my partition scheme includes 4 partitions if you include 
swap, the others being / and /usr/local and /home  That way, I only blow 
away / when doing an upgrade and my locally installed programs don't get 
bothered.


HTH,

Pia

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, aerospace1...@hotmail.com wrote:


Greetings,
I am in the process of making my plan to upgrade to lucid when it is
officially released in April.  I am currently using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and I
want to make sure everything is set for the transition to go as smooth as
possible.

Some potentially useful background:  I'm using a laptop: duel-booting Ubuntu
and Windows XP.  I HAVE Ubuntu split over two partitions (One for / and one
for /home).  I maintain regular (monthly) backups of my rootsystem and home
directories (each partition gets its own backup).  under the settings for
software sources and preferences (found under the administration menu of the
top pannel: I don't recall the exact name), I currently have my system set
to only upgrade to LTS versions of Ubuntu.

(A) configuration files?
Will my settings in configuration files (I.E. those found in /etc/) remain
preserved across the upgrade?  Also will anything I added to ~.bashrc be
preserved as well?  Or will I need to re-tweek these files upon upgrade.

(B) custom-builds?
I built the git editions of orca, at-spi and atk for the gnome-2.22 system. 
Will apt-get dist-upgrade automatically replace these with the default
versions for lucid, or should I uninstall the git-builds and re-install the
repository versions?

(C) best upgrade method?
I've been switching from apt-get to aptitude for my package-management uses,
but from reading the documentation in man, it looks like apt-get
dist-upgrade is the recommended method for upgrading distribution releases
from the command-line: is this correct?

(D) anything else?
Are there any other concerns I should be looking at?  Useful tidbits to keep
in mind?

Thank you in advance for your assistance:-)
I look forward to getting caught back up with the linux community.


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What will be happen Firefox accessibility problems with Ubuntu Lucid?

2010-03-23 Thread Hammer Attila
Dear List,

This letter I already sent with Vinux mailing list, but I would like ask 
your hints:
Unfortunately, Firefox 3.6 version containing some possible important 
accessibility related bugs, with now yet not full fixed:
For example:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=608149
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609890
Of course this is absolute not Joanmarie mistake.

For example, because the second bug is present, the headings list 
extension is not working correct, see my last comment the second 
bugreport, we found what the last date version when this extension is 
working right. I don't no Mozilla Developers when fixing this second bug.
Another very disturb issue is following with Firefox 3.6:
When I launch Firefox with normal way or a shortcut, impossible to 
navigate a webpage the arrow keys before I press a Tab key or F5 key, 
possible the webpage caret is not focused?
Another problematic issue is Firefox running with sudo command. When I 
do this with Firefox 3.6, Firefox is inaccessible with Orca Screen Reader.

I don't no what the best strategy with this situation, this is a complex 
and difficult problem.
We downgrade Firefox with 3.5.8 Karmic release after Lucid install? For 
example, this version is working absolute right? Yesterday I try play 
this with my PPA, the result is relative good, but unfortunately for 
example new Firefox PPA package does'nt containing 3.5.8 hungarian 
translations, I don't no what package generating this translation files. 
But, Firefox working absolute right with Orca. :-):-)

For example, in Lucid have firefox-3.5 package, but ofcourse depending 
following Firefox version:
firefox-3.5 | 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu6 | lucid/universe | all
So, I think normal simple way now impossible to toggle back Firefox 3.5 
version. Of course, possible install Firefox 3.5.8 version with 
ubuntuzilla package (not present with Ubuntu repository), but this is 
difficulting later maintenance when Mozilla developers later fixing this 
bugs, and if I known right, Ubuntuzilla does'nt install 64 bit version 
with a 64 bit system.

Ubuntu developers what can possible handle this situation? Possible do 
an official maintenanced method to users possible switch back Firefox 
3.5.8 version if want?

Attila

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upgrade preperations

2010-03-23 Thread aerospace1028

Greetings,
I am in the process of making my plan to upgrade to lucid when it is officially 
released in April.  I am currently using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and I want to make 
sure everything is set for the transition to go as smooth as possible.

Some potentially useful background:  I'm using a laptop: duel-booting Ubuntu 
and Windows XP.  I HAVE Ubuntu split over two partitions (One for / and one for 
/home).  I maintain regular (monthly) backups of my rootsystem and home 
directories (each partition gets its own backup).  under the settings for 
software sources and preferences (found under the administration menu of the 
top pannel: I don't recall the exact name), I currently have my system set to 
only upgrade to LTS versions of Ubuntu.

(A) configuration files?
Will my settings in configuration files (I.E. those found in /etc/) remain 
preserved across the upgrade?  Also will anything I added to ~.bashrc be 
preserved as well?  Or will I need to re-tweek these files upon upgrade.

(B) custom-builds?
I built the git editions of orca, at-spi and atk for the gnome-2.22 system.  
Will apt-get dist-upgrade automatically replace these with the default versions 
for lucid, or should I uninstall the git-builds and re-install the repository 
versions?

(C) best upgrade method?
I've been switching from apt-get to aptitude for my package-management uses, 
but from reading the documentation in man, it looks like apt-get dist-upgrade 
is the recommended method for upgrading distribution releases from the 
command-line: is this correct?

(D) anything else?
Are there any other concerns I should be looking at?  Useful tidbits to keep in 
mind?

Thank you in advance for your assistance:-)
I look forward to getting caught back up with the linux community.  
  
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