Re: QT At-spi rolenames possible localizing before final Ubuntu 12.04 release?
Hy Luke,
If I see right, in qt-at-spi source the src directory need marking
translation the role names in src/constant_mappings.cpp file.
Look some lines:
qSpiRoleMapping.insert(QAccessible::NoRole,
RoleNames(ATSPI_ROLE_INVALID, "invalid", QObject::tr("invalid role")));
qSpiRoleMapping.insert(QAccessible::TitleBar,
RoleNames(ATSPI_ROLE_TEXT, "text", QObject::tr("title bar")));
qSpiRoleMapping.insert(QAccessible::MenuBar,
RoleNames(ATSPI_ROLE_MENU_BAR, "menu bar", QObject::tr("menu bar")));
qSpiRoleMapping.insert(QAccessible::ScrollBar,
RoleNames(ATSPI_ROLE_SCROLL_BAR, "scroll bar", QObject::tr("scroll bar")));
For example, look the menu bar related two strings:
"menu bar", QObject::tr("menu bar"
Need marking the first or the second string for translation?
Unfortunately I not have experiences with C code localizing, usual I
working more with Python.
Attila
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Re: innaccessible installer on ubuntu 12.04?
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:52:36AM EST, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > I opened up the following bug for this situation: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/927459 > > I know Luke as been taking a look at it, and I'm pretty sure he told me > he's also been able to reproduce it. Yes thats correct, its specific to the emulated sound card hardware in VMWare. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: innaccessible installer on ubuntu 12.04?
On 12/03/12 17:10, Alan Bell wrote: > On 12/03/12 18:57, Lucas Radaelli wrote: >> Thank you all. I have read on a blog post about this procedure for >> 11.04, and didn't know that it would work on 12.04 too. I was waiting >> for the drumms, but as I didn't hear anything (I am on a noise place), >> I thought the procedure changed. >> > it has been noticed sometimes that the installer starts muted. I have > seen this happen, but I can't reproduce it reliably. If anyone can > figure out the circumstances that makes it start muted that would be > very interesting. I opened up the following bug for this situation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/927459 I know Luke as been taking a look at it, and I'm pretty sure he told me he's also been able to reproduce it. -- Christopher (CJ) chalt...@gmail.com -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: innaccessible installer on ubuntu 12.04?
On 12/03/12 18:57, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Thank you all. I have read on a blog post about this procedure for 11.04, and didn't know that it would work on 12.04 too. I was waiting for the drumms, but as I didn't hear anything (I am on a noise place), I thought the procedure changed. Thank you. it has been noticed sometimes that the installer starts muted. I have seen this happen, but I can't reproduce it reliably. If anyone can figure out the circumstances that makes it start muted that would be very interesting. Alan. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: QT At-spi rolenames possible localizing before final Ubuntu 12.04 release?
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 08:29:53PM EST, Hammer Attila wrote: > Unfortunately with Ubuntu awailable qt-at-spi package the rolenames > are passed Orca with english strings (check boxes, push buttons, > edit boxes, etc), so the screen reader output is a mixed partialy > translated output with non english languages. > A typical example is a check box, Non english language visual > impaired user hear english role type (check box), and the label and > state hear he's own language, I verified this with Skype. > In Unity 2d the situation is similar. Non english language visual > impaired user hear own language a rolename label, and hear the role > type with english. This is the job of qt-at-spi to translate role names, and I don't think qt-at-spi has translated role names yet. Please consider working with the QT at-spi devs to get translatable role names working. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: innaccessible installer on ubuntu 12.04?
Thank you all. I have read on a blog post about this procedure for 11.04, and didn't know that it would work on 12.04 too. I was waiting for the drumms, but as I didn't hear anything (I am on a noise place), I thought the procedure changed. Thank you. 2012/3/12, Charlie Kravetz : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:58:12 -0300 > Lucas Radaelli wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have been working on a project, and we are doing some tests over >> ubuntu 12.04. I found a problem that I coudn't install it by myself >> using orca. >> >> What happenned with the accessible installer? >> >> Thank you. >> > > We have changed it. The correct procedure to start the accessible > installer for Ubuntu Precise, which will become 12.04, is to insert the > cd, and allow it to run. When you hear the sound of the drums, hit > Ctrl+s. If you do not hear orca start in a minute or so, hit Ctrl+s > again. After orca starts, you can use Alt+Tab to change from orca > preferences to the installer. > > - -- > Charlie Kravetz > Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] > Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPXkHrAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAbd8H/RAxrh64FHAmOCNNRipElsUc > WUhUHNDbERcpQf4moPYDFoudUvRZzBUHkm37oqdU4I+9twbjSUgTw2pq9vQly7Qn > PVGVY2Lbutz6hjYrqzB2Vz5xFcg+TjUqUN8jmvPwWZ++ZVHicomudKR9p59f8xKW > vkKwhYnEzoFYbp7DdK40B0vWBtLm9HE4IeGYV0LBTPqERQKrnuyNXLBzDcP95f8C > hbmdiDT7MBr3U5giELX8IRpE+HBHCx3PuzhjDtcPCBDwjGHUTAc10lmHN31XjnHu > or5hHq8zkVh1IdSgzAT5GeMx3vTyKF2NO++6A4GXqXGVp3nqzkYhX0RPLw3KyJw= > =huy4 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: innaccessible installer on ubuntu 12.04?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:58:12 -0300 Lucas Radaelli wrote: > Hello, > > I have been working on a project, and we are doing some tests over > ubuntu 12.04. I found a problem that I coudn't install it by myself > using orca. > > What happenned with the accessible installer? > > Thank you. > We have changed it. The correct procedure to start the accessible installer for Ubuntu Precise, which will become 12.04, is to insert the cd, and allow it to run. When you hear the sound of the drums, hit Ctrl+s. If you do not hear orca start in a minute or so, hit Ctrl+s again. After orca starts, you can use Alt+Tab to change from orca preferences to the installer. - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPXkHrAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAbd8H/RAxrh64FHAmOCNNRipElsUc WUhUHNDbERcpQf4moPYDFoudUvRZzBUHkm37oqdU4I+9twbjSUgTw2pq9vQly7Qn PVGVY2Lbutz6hjYrqzB2Vz5xFcg+TjUqUN8jmvPwWZ++ZVHicomudKR9p59f8xKW vkKwhYnEzoFYbp7DdK40B0vWBtLm9HE4IeGYV0LBTPqERQKrnuyNXLBzDcP95f8C hbmdiDT7MBr3U5giELX8IRpE+HBHCx3PuzhjDtcPCBDwjGHUTAc10lmHN31XjnHu or5hHq8zkVh1IdSgzAT5GeMx3vTyKF2NO++6A4GXqXGVp3nqzkYhX0RPLw3KyJw= =huy4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: innaccessible installer on ubuntu 12.04?
Hi Lucas, last time I installed 12.04, the installer was completely accessible. Did you press ctrl+s when you heard the drum sound? On 03/12/2012 02:58 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Hello, I have been working on a project, and we are doing some tests over ubuntu 12.04. I found a problem that I coudn't install it by myself using orca. What happenned with the accessible installer? Thank you. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
innaccessible installer on ubuntu 12.04?
Hello, I have been working on a project, and we are doing some tests over ubuntu 12.04. I found a problem that I coudn't install it by myself using orca. What happenned with the accessible installer? Thank you. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Indicators related bugs
Hy, I now reported in indicator-power package with following bug, please anybody confirm the status: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/953176 The power indicator have a silent menu item with Orca identifying with "panel" role name. If I press ENTER this menu item, energy statistics application launch correct. Some this menu item the first menu item the power indicator, some time the last. Interesting, but Orca not say position index this menu item when the speak child position check box is checked. Have a similar issue with indicator-sound package, but I not reported yet this problem. In Sound indicator have a silent menu item, before and after the Rhitmbox menu item. Need reporting this issue, or already reported this problem? In Indicators main menu not all indicators have main menu label (for example messages indicator have message label and right spokening Orca this label). Need reporting this issue? Possible fixing this issue and have chance translators translate new added main menu labels before Ubuntu 12.04 release? Following indicators main menu not have label: Keyboard, Network, perhaps power, time and date indicator. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
QT At-spi rolenames possible localizing before final Ubuntu 12.04 release?
Hy, Since rolename refactor happened in Orca side, Orca determining rolenames from At-Spi and atk. Of course this is absolute not matter, because not need own rolename translations with Orca side and not need redundant codes, atk already have translatable rolename strings. If Atk developers add new rolenames, enough translate one place the new rolename string, and Orca will be known the new rolename. Unfortunately with Ubuntu awailable qt-at-spi package the rolenames are passed Orca with english strings (check boxes, push buttons, edit boxes, etc), so the screen reader output is a mixed partialy translated output with non english languages. A typical example is a check box, Non english language visual impaired user hear english role type (check box), and the label and state hear he's own language, I verified this with Skype. In Unity 2d the situation is similar. Non english language visual impaired user hear own language a rolename label, and hear the role type with english. In Launchpad.net the translation strings are not awailable for qt-at-spi package yet, I don't no upstream project already supporting the localization or not: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/qt-at-spi Have a chance to this problem are possible resolving before final Ubuntu 12.04 release, and translators have enough time making the translations for qt-at-spi package to both two environment visual impaired users hear equals rolename related informations, or this task will be happening next development release? If this task not fit the remaining Ubuntu 12.04 development cicle, future possible resolving this problem with an update with a maintenance release (12.04.1, 12.04.2, etc)? Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
