Re: ubuntu 12.04 daily - my impressions

2012-04-19 Thread Vojtěch Polášek
Reposting here, I am sorry:
Hi,
thank you very much for your instructions, I was just curious. I will
try the gnome, but I am quite confortable with unity and its quick
searching facilities.
Do I need to compile ATK as well, for AT-SPI to work?
I am almost prepared to try this new LTS as my new production system,
because suport for my 10.10 ended short time ago.
Vojta

On 19.4.2012 06:46, Hammer Attila wrote:
 Hy Vojtěch,

 Unfortunately only me sent your letter, not the list.
 When you want update at-spi2-core package, not use the master branch,
 you need using gnome-3-4 branch.
 So, when you want compiling at-spi2-core upstream version, you need
 run first git checkout gnome-3-4 command in the source tree before you
 do general compilation related commands.
 I will be test word echo in gnome-terminal, and if need, reporting
 this issue in Bugzilla.
 For example, I using gnome 3.4 my Precise system without any problems.
 You need enabling universe and multiverse repositoryes, and need
 installing gnome-session-fallback package.
 I oldest time wrote a complete list what can need doing if an user
 would like using GNOME3 fallback interface, now little actualized the
 instructions:
 Switching from Unity Desktop to GNOME3 fallback session in Ubuntu
 12.04 (Precise Pangolin)
 Installing the GNOME3 fallback session related packages and dependencies
 First, you ensure already enabled with the universe and multiverse
 repositories.
 Default the universe and multiverse repositoryes is not enabled. If
 you would like enabling this repositoryes, launch the
 software-properties-gtk preference tool, and enable this repositoryes.
 You are possible to launch software-properties-gtk preference tool for
 example with sudo software-properties-gtk command in gnome-terminal.
 If the universe and multiverse repositoryes is enabled, you need
 install gnome-session-fallback package. You possible using the
 Software Center or Synaptic this purpose, or possible using in
 terminal with following command:
 sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback

 Changing the desktop session from Unity to GNOME3 fallback session
 This is possible with LightDm, you need choosing GNOME Classic (no
 effects) session after you logged out.

 Final customizations
 When you logged again your system, you already have in the GNOME3
 fallback session. Following part containing optional modification
 suggestions to prowide the new desktop session with better A11y
 experience:
 Fixing system menue inaccessibility related problem
 Unfortunately GNOME3 developers removed with the old System menue in
 the fallback session. Unfortunately, this modification are resulted
 visualy impaired users unable to access the importanter functions for
 example with the actual username awailable submenue (unable to change
 actual user status, launch system settings, log out, switch user, or
 shutdown the system.
 Now, have only one known workaround to prewent this problem:
 1. Press Control+Alt+TAB keystroke, and go to the top extended panel.
 2. Delete this panel. Press SHIFT+F10 keystroke, and choose the
 Delete this panel.
 3. Go to bottom extended panel, and press SHIFT+F10 keystroke. Choose
 the create new panel menu item.
 4. In the empty panel, you need add the main menu applet, and
 optional the Clock, Notification Area applets. This last two
 applet is need only if you are not would like using GNOME3 ported
 Indicator applets.
 This modifications are resulting you an one column menue system. If
 you are press ALT+F1 keystroke, you are possible accessing all
 importanter menu items. You will be see your username realted
 submenue, possible log out, switch user, or shutdown the system with
 keyboard usage.

 Using indicators under GNOME3 fallback session
 This is simple, in Ubuntu 12.04 system you need installing
 indicator-applet and indicator-applet-complete packages. After the
 packages are installed, go to for example with top extended panel the
 CTRL+ALT+TAB keystroke. Press Shift+F10 keystroke, and choose the Add
 the panel... menu item.
 If you would like using all indicators with a single applet, you need
 add the Complete indicators applet with your panel.
 After this, when you closing the add panel applet dialog, if you press
 SUPER+S keystroke, you possible accessing all oldest time awailable
 indicators, similar with Ubuntu Natty classic GNOME session.
 This modifications resulted me a very confortable desktop environment.
 Be carefuly, when you possible first time logged in in GNOME3 fallback
 session, I am not sure default shortcuts are awailable (ALT+F1,
 ALT+F2, etc.

 Attila

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Re: ubuntu 12.04 daily - my impressions

2012-04-19 Thread Hammer Attila

Hy,

I only recompiled at-spi2-core gnome-3-4 branch source.

Attila

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Re: ubuntu 12.04 daily - my impressions

2012-04-19 Thread Vojtěch Polášek
Well, that at-spi thing actually ixed my libreoffice problem, thanks alot.
And I love that QT  accessibility - I have tried just skype or a while
and qstardict, but its very good step forward.
But I am woried about thunderbird - when you open a thread, I found that
messae list is not updated properly, just try it:
a) find a collapsed thread in the middle of the list and take note of
following messages
b) expand thread and go through messages - htey are still the same, but
when you open them, they are messages belonging to that thread.
And echoing by word doesn't work in thunderbird at all, in terminal it
works only if you type for example something, then dash or dot (will
announce word).
And I have a question - can I conigure espeak to use libsonic as it is
in Vinux? Because othervise its quite slow for me. Libsonic0 is installed.
And is there any way of reordering items or adding items to unity launcher?
I have install gnome-session-fallback, but I like the way how unity
searches my files.
Thank you very much,
Vojta

On 19.4.2012 08:26, Hammer Attila wrote:
 Hy,

 I only recompiled at-spi2-core gnome-3-4 branch source.

 Attila


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Re: ubuntu 12.04 daily - my impressions

2012-04-19 Thread Dave Hunt
Everyone else seems to get proper reading once they've updated the 
at-spi2-core, I'm doing something wrong.  Regarding the Unity launcher, 
the easiest way to add an item is to start the app in question, locate 
its name in the list, use the right arrow to move to the context menu, 
and select the 'lock to launcher' option.  Similarly, if you want to 
remove something, locate it, and use the 'unlock from launcher'. 
Regarding the threading issues you have in t-bird, since I don't thread, 
I haven't noticed.




Cheers,



Dave





On 04/19/2012 11:59 AM, Vojtěch Polášek wrote:

Well, that at-spi thing actually ixed my libreoffice problem, thanks alot.
And I love that QT  accessibility - I have tried just skype or a while
and qstardict, but its very good step forward.
But I am woried about thunderbird - when you open a thread, I found that
messae list is not updated properly, just try it:
a) find a collapsed thread in the middle of the list and take note of
following messages
b) expand thread and go through messages - htey are still the same, but
when you open them, they are messages belonging to that thread.
And echoing by word doesn't work in thunderbird at all, in terminal it
works only if you type for example something, then dash or dot (will
announce word).
And I have a question - can I conigure espeak to use libsonic as it is
in Vinux? Because othervise its quite slow for me. Libsonic0 is installed.
And is there any way of reordering items or adding items to unity launcher?
I have install gnome-session-fallback, but I like the way how unity
searches my files.
Thank you very much,
Vojta

On 19.4.2012 08:26, Hammer Attila wrote:

Hy,

I only recompiled at-spi2-core gnome-3-4 branch source.

Attila





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