Ubuntu-Mate Accessibility Review (1st draft)
This is a brief account of my experience with Ubuntu-Mate 15.04 Beta 2. If I were unfamiliar with Mate, and its accessibility quirks, I'd have had a lot of trouble; things are not really intuitive. Review below... HTH, Dave When the live system booted, I got the sound of bongos. At this point, I used 'ctrl+s' to toggle speech on. The introductory dialogue, with install Ubuntu and Try Ubuntu options is fully accessible; I tabbed to try, and hit the space key. My system went into a desktop; I only knew it was ready by the long absence of drive activity; an introductory sound would be helpful, here. When I figured that enough time had passed, I used 'alt+super+s' keys to toggle the speech on; this is a nice feature, and familiar to those using GNOME 3. Orca came on, as expected, but nothing was focused. I just happened to try 'ctrl+alt+d' and found that the desktop gets focus. From here, I could set my screen reader preferences in the expected way. Once I had Orca set up, I started exploring the menu system, by entering with 'alt+f1' keys. I found the expected three-column menu set on the top panel. I exited the menus and tried getting to the top panel, with 'alt+ctrl+tab' and 'alt+ctrl+esc' keys, but could only get to the bottom panel. Even with focus on the bottom, I found no way to reach the top, where my wifi options are likely shown. I went back into the menus, and found Preferences. In the 'look and feel' section, I found a new item called Mate Tweak, which I started, with hopes of messing with the interface. I found panels options, including Ubuntu Mate, Ubuntu Mate with Mate Menu, and an interesting one-- Redmond. Once I chose this option and left the tweak tool, I found I had a single-panel layout, with a single column of menus, similar to the layout you'd find on Trisquel 7. I had to use 'ctrl+alt+escape' to get to the panels, though, even after binding 'ctrl+alt+tab' for switching between desktop and panels. Anyway, once I got to the new bottom panel, I could connect to my wifi as expected. Having unlocked this monumental achievement, I launched a web browser, just to check connectivity. Since all seemed well, I closed the browser, and hit the 'install' button on the desktop. The installer is a typical session of Ubiquity, about which many of us have written before; it hasn't changed much, in terms of accessibility, since 14.04; I will mention, however, I had to toggle Orca a few times, when switching from one page to the next. When I started my new system, I found that the login greeter did not come up talking, as it would in Trisquel. The 'f4' keystroke got Orca talking on the dialogue, but attempts to explore it caused the greeter to crash, thereby preventing logins. I gave the 'reboot' command from another console, and waited. This time, the greeter came up talking, and I just entered my password. A talking Mate session, set up almost according to a previously-made configuration, came up. In the new session, alt+ctrl+tab' does not work as it should, though it is shown as bound in the Keyboard Shortcuts dialogue. I set the Redmond panel layout, as mentioned above, and did a few post-install things. The system is now running. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [Support] Ubuntu-Mate Accessibility Review (1st draft)
I think I will stay away from mate sounds like it needs some serious work On 4/8/2015 3:20 PM, Dave Hunt wrote: This is a brief account of my experience with Ubuntu-Mate 15.04 Beta 2. If I were unfamiliar with Mate, and its accessibility quirks, I'd have had a lot of trouble; things are not really intuitive. Review below... HTH, Dave When the live system booted, I got the sound of bongos. At this point, I used 'ctrl+s' to toggle speech on. The introductory dialogue, with install Ubuntu and Try Ubuntu options is fully accessible; I tabbed to try, and hit the space key. My system went into a desktop; I only knew it was ready by the long absence of drive activity; an introductory sound would be helpful, here. When I figured that enough time had passed, I used 'alt+super+s' keys to toggle the speech on; this is a nice feature, and familiar to those using GNOME 3. Orca came on, as expected, but nothing was focused. I just happened to try 'ctrl+alt+d' and found that the desktop gets focus. From here, I could set my screen reader preferences in the expected way. Once I had Orca set up, I started exploring the menu system, by entering with 'alt+f1' keys. I found the expected three-column menu set on the top panel. I exited the menus and tried getting to the top panel, with 'alt+ctrl+tab' and 'alt+ctrl+esc' keys, but could only get to the bottom panel. Even with focus on the bottom, I found no way to reach the top, where my wifi options are likely shown. I went back into the menus, and found Preferences. In the 'look and feel' section, I found a new item called Mate Tweak, which I started, with hopes of messing with the interface. I found panels options, including Ubuntu Mate, Ubuntu Mate with Mate Menu, and an interesting one-- Redmond. Once I chose this option and left the tweak tool, I found I had a single-panel layout, with a single column of menus, similar to the layout you'd find on Trisquel 7. I had to use 'ctrl+alt+escape' to get to the panels, though, even after binding 'ctrl+alt+tab' for switching between desktop and panels. Anyway, once I got to the new bottom panel, I could connect to my wifi as expected. Having unlocked this monumental achievement, I launched a web browser, just to check connectivity. Since all seemed well, I closed the browser, and hit the 'install' button on the desktop. The installer is a typical session of Ubiquity, about which many of us have written before; it hasn't changed much, in terms of accessibility, since 14.04; I will mention, however, I had to toggle Orca a few times, when switching from one page to the next. When I started my new system, I found that the login greeter did not come up talking, as it would in Trisquel. The 'f4' keystroke got Orca talking on the dialogue, but attempts to explore it caused the greeter to crash, thereby preventing logins. I gave the 'reboot' command from another console, and waited. This time, the greeter came up talking, and I just entered my password. A talking Mate session, set up almost according to a previously-made configuration, came up. In the new session, alt+ctrl+tab' does not work as it should, though it is shown as bound in the Keyboard Shortcuts dialogue. I set the Redmond panel layout, as mentioned above, and did a few post-install things. The system is now running. ___ Support mailing list supp...@sonargnulinux.com http://sonargnulinux.com/mailman/listinfo/support_sonargnulinux.com -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: [Support] Ubuntu-Mate Accessibility Review (1st draft)
Hi Moving to the top panel requires pressing Control-Alt-Shift-Tab. First, press Control -Alt-Tab to get to the bottom panel though. I think you maybe can press Alt-F1, Escape, and then Control -Alt-Shift-Tab. I've been away from it for a few weeks so please forgive me if this last thing doesn't work. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Ionamailto:hank.smith...@gmail.com Sent: 4/8/2015 5:26 PM To: Dave Huntmailto:ka1...@gmail.com; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.commailto:ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.commailto:supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] Ubuntu-Mate Accessibility Review (1st draft) I think I will stay away from mate sounds like it needs some serious work On 4/8/2015 3:20 PM, Dave Hunt wrote: This is a brief account of my experience with Ubuntu-Mate 15.04 Beta 2. If I were unfamiliar with Mate, and its accessibility quirks, I'd have had a lot of trouble; things are not really intuitive. Review below... HTH, Dave When the live system booted, I got the sound of bongos. At this point, I used 'ctrl+s' to toggle speech on. The introductory dialogue, with install Ubuntu and Try Ubuntu options is fully accessible; I tabbed to try, and hit the space key. My system went into a desktop; I only knew it was ready by the long absence of drive activity; an introductory sound would be helpful, here. When I figured that enough time had passed, I used 'alt+super+s' keys to toggle the speech on; this is a nice feature, and familiar to those using GNOME 3. Orca came on, as expected, but nothing was focused. I just happened to try 'ctrl+alt+d' and found that the desktop gets focus. From here, I could set my screen reader preferences in the expected way. Once I had Orca set up, I started exploring the menu system, by entering with 'alt+f1' keys. I found the expected three-column menu set on the top panel. I exited the menus and tried getting to the top panel, with 'alt+ctrl+tab' and 'alt+ctrl+esc' keys, but could only get to the bottom panel. Even with focus on the bottom, I found no way to reach the top, where my wifi options are likely shown. I went back into the menus, and found Preferences. In the 'look and feel' section, I found a new item called Mate Tweak, which I started, with hopes of messing with the interface. I found panels options, including Ubuntu Mate, Ubuntu Mate with Mate Menu, and an interesting one-- Redmond. Once I chose this option and left the tweak tool, I found I had a single-panel layout, with a single column of menus, similar to the layout you'd find on Trisquel 7. I had to use 'ctrl+alt+escape' to get to the panels, though, even after binding 'ctrl+alt+tab' for switching between desktop and panels. Anyway, once I got to the new bottom panel, I could connect to my wifi as expected. Having unlocked this monumental achievement, I launched a web browser, just to check connectivity. Since all seemed well, I closed the browser, and hit the 'install' button on the desktop. The installer is a typical session of Ubiquity, about which many of us have written before; it hasn't changed much, in terms of accessibility, since 14.04; I will mention, however, I had to toggle Orca a few times, when switching from one page to the next. When I started my new system, I found that the login greeter did not come up talking, as it would in Trisquel. The 'f4' keystroke got Orca talking on the dialogue, but attempts to explore it caused the greeter to crash, thereby preventing logins. I gave the 'reboot' command from another console, and waited. This time, the greeter came up talking, and I just entered my password. A talking Mate session, set up almost according to a previously-made configuration, came up. In the new session, alt+ctrl+tab' does not work as it should, though it is shown as bound in the Keyboard Shortcuts dialogue. I set the Redmond panel layout, as mentioned above, and did a few post-install things. The system is now running. ___ Support mailing list supp...@sonargnulinux.com http://sonargnulinux.com/mailman/listinfo/support_sonargnulinux.com ___ Support mailing list supp...@sonargnulinux.com http://sonargnulinux.com/mailman/listinfo/support_sonargnulinux.com -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
