Please trim your posts.
Hi folks. Just a reminder that you should trim your posts. If you really feel you must top post, then please trim anything that is not relevant to the conversation and your reply. I've just had to let through some posts because they were too big, and this could have been avoided by doing a little trimming before posting. Thanks. Your friendly list moderator. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Orca does not speak
Now that you mention that, I wonder if I could have gone to a terminal and did: sudo apt-get update and fixed the problem. I could have done that much without speech. Glenn - Original Message - From: "Jude DaShiell"To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Orca does not speak If you do try anymore ubuntu I suggest getting your system installed. If your new system talks, only download missing packages you want and if you suddenly loose speech and haven't rebooted remove what you just installed. On no account do any system-wide updates of that new system until you read on this list that the no sound problem you have has been solved and wait for at least one confirmation message from another user who did the update and has orca working. On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 22:57:19 > From: Glenn / Lenny > To: Jude DaShiell , > ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Orca does not speak > > yeah, that would be pretty much impossible with no speech. > If I don't get a solution, I don't know what is next. > Maybe the 32 bit install will not do this? > Glenn > - Original Message - > From: "Jude DaShiell" > To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; > > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 PM > Subject: Re: Orca does not speak > > > I don't know how accessibility on ubuntu command line works or what tool > To do what the arch downgrade script does, you would have to get a package > manager to show your installed package version and a a numbered list of > all other versions. Then you'd select the version and select whether to > ignore versions higher than what's installed in the future. Many times a > whole group of packages have to be downgraded together in order not to > break dependencies and in what you'll read below it's a pretty big list > with respect to pulseaudio. How all of this is done with apt-get or > aptitude I never did learn. > > From isfe...@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 21:04:12 2016 > Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:04:05 > From: tim > To: Jude DaShiell > Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com > Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? > > I've fixed it! I had to downgrade libpulse, pulseaudio, > pulseaudio-bluetooth, pulseaudio-zeroconf, pulseaudio-lirc, and > pulseaudio-gconf from 9 to 8.3 or maybe it's 4, I then removed > .config/pulseaudioctl and .config/pulse restarted and I have sound! > thanks all this was really worrying me! > > > > On 08/04/2016 05:14 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: >> Okay, my suggestion here would be first to downgrade libpulse then >> downgrade lightdm unless lightdm also gets downgraded by downgrading >> libpulse. Hope this helps. Oh, I forgot if you have >> speech-dispatcher-git on your system try spd-say "hello, world!" and >> see if you get any sound that way. >> >> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, tim wrote: >> >>> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:56:58 >>> From: tim >>> To: Jude DaShiell >>> Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com >>> Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? >>> >>> Still stuck, downgraded lightdm and when attempting to downgrade >>> pulseaudio, I run in to this warning: downgrading package pulseaudio >>> (9.0-1 => 8.0-2) >>> resolving dependencies... >>> warning: cannot resolve "libpulse=8.0-2", a dependency of "pulseaudio" >>> :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable >>> dependencies: >>> pulseaudio >>> >>> :: Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n >>> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) >>> it's strange I can't get speech on anything, but when running mplayer >>> a filename.mp3 I get sound! so am stuck, and speech dispatcher is at >>> 0.8.4 i believe somewhere around there. I hope I don't have to >>> reinstall cause of this. I doubt it but it's puzzling. >>> >>> On 8/3/16, Jude DaShiell wrote: First, alsamixer is being bogarted by pulseaudio. Probably pamixer will give you better results. Second, aplay is also bogarted by pulseaudio so download and use alsaplayer and that should make alsaplayer if all optional packages get installed capable of playing what aplay used to play. Third, I think I found why speech got broken both before and after lightdm is run for mate or gnome. My speech-dispatcher-git package just recently got updated to 0.9.0xxx and I found a speech-dispatcherd.service file available so I did systemctl enable speech-dispatcherd.service and rebooted the system. Invariably every time speech-dispatcherd.service was started it failed. So no speech before or after login. Since /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/login.wav is on my system, I now have
Re: Orca does not speak
If you do try anymore ubuntu I suggest getting your system installed. If your new system talks, only download missing packages you want and if you suddenly loose speech and haven't rebooted remove what you just installed. On no account do any system-wide updates of that new system until you read on this list that the no sound problem you have has been solved and wait for at least one confirmation message from another user who did the update and has orca working. On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 22:57:19 From: Glenn / LennyTo: Jude DaShiell , ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Orca does not speak yeah, that would be pretty much impossible with no speech. If I don't get a solution, I don't know what is next. Maybe the 32 bit install will not do this? Glenn - Original Message - From: "Jude DaShiell" To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Orca does not speak I don't know how accessibility on ubuntu command line works or what tool To do what the arch downgrade script does, you would have to get a package manager to show your installed package version and a a numbered list of all other versions. Then you'd select the version and select whether to ignore versions higher than what's installed in the future. Many times a whole group of packages have to be downgraded together in order not to break dependencies and in what you'll read below it's a pretty big list with respect to pulseaudio. How all of this is done with apt-get or aptitude I never did learn. From isfe...@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 21:04:12 2016 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:04:05 From: tim To: Jude DaShiell Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? I've fixed it! I had to downgrade libpulse, pulseaudio, pulseaudio-bluetooth, pulseaudio-zeroconf, pulseaudio-lirc, and pulseaudio-gconf from 9 to 8.3 or maybe it's 4, I then removed .config/pulseaudioctl and .config/pulse restarted and I have sound! thanks all this was really worrying me! On 08/04/2016 05:14 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Okay, my suggestion here would be first to downgrade libpulse then downgrade lightdm unless lightdm also gets downgraded by downgrading libpulse. Hope this helps. Oh, I forgot if you have speech-dispatcher-git on your system try spd-say "hello, world!" and see if you get any sound that way. On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, tim wrote: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:56:58 From: tim To: Jude DaShiell Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? Still stuck, downgraded lightdm and when attempting to downgrade pulseaudio, I run in to this warning: downgrading package pulseaudio (9.0-1 => 8.0-2) resolving dependencies... warning: cannot resolve "libpulse=8.0-2", a dependency of "pulseaudio" :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: pulseaudio :: Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) it's strange I can't get speech on anything, but when running mplayer a filename.mp3 I get sound! so am stuck, and speech dispatcher is at 0.8.4 i believe somewhere around there. I hope I don't have to reinstall cause of this. I doubt it but it's puzzling. On 8/3/16, Jude DaShiell wrote: First, alsamixer is being bogarted by pulseaudio. Probably pamixer will give you better results. Second, aplay is also bogarted by pulseaudio so download and use alsaplayer and that should make alsaplayer if all optional packages get installed capable of playing what aplay used to play. Third, I think I found why speech got broken both before and after lightdm is run for mate or gnome. My speech-dispatcher-git package just recently got updated to 0.9.0xxx and I found a speech-dispatcherd.service file available so I did systemctl enable speech-dispatcherd.service and rebooted the system. Invariably every time speech-dispatcherd.service was started it failed. So no speech before or after login. Since /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/login.wav is on my system, I now have alsaplayer playing that with alsaplayer -q ./login.wav since I moved that to my home directory and it's in my .bashrc file since I wanted to hear if I got any successful login on lightdm and haven't heard login.wav play since these last updates. I wish I had better news, but that's where things appear to be now. Oh, if speech can't get enabled on the talkingarch system and you want to recover disk space a command like: sudo -H pacman -Rcsn xorg should clear the whole graphical user interface and all configurations from your system. It doesn't wipe configurations below your home directory though. The warning about this is, if you use vlc
Re: Orca does not speak
the update command only updates your local version of the packages database, you would next have to have done apt-get upgrade and hope the upgrade didn't break anything. On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 09:48:03 From: Glenn / LennyTo: Jude DaShiell , ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Orca does not speak Now that you mention that, I wonder if I could have gone to a terminal and did: sudo apt-get update and fixed the problem. I could have done that much without speech. Glenn - Original Message - From: "Jude DaShiell" To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Orca does not speak If you do try anymore ubuntu I suggest getting your system installed. If your new system talks, only download missing packages you want and if you suddenly loose speech and haven't rebooted remove what you just installed. On no account do any system-wide updates of that new system until you read on this list that the no sound problem you have has been solved and wait for at least one confirmation message from another user who did the update and has orca working. On Fri, 5 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 22:57:19 From: Glenn / Lenny To: Jude DaShiell , ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Orca does not speak yeah, that would be pretty much impossible with no speech. If I don't get a solution, I don't know what is next. Maybe the 32 bit install will not do this? Glenn - Original Message - From: "Jude DaShiell" To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Orca does not speak I don't know how accessibility on ubuntu command line works or what tool To do what the arch downgrade script does, you would have to get a package manager to show your installed package version and a a numbered list of all other versions. Then you'd select the version and select whether to ignore versions higher than what's installed in the future. Many times a whole group of packages have to be downgraded together in order not to break dependencies and in what you'll read below it's a pretty big list with respect to pulseaudio. How all of this is done with apt-get or aptitude I never did learn. From isfe...@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 21:04:12 2016 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:04:05 From: tim To: Jude DaShiell Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? I've fixed it! I had to downgrade libpulse, pulseaudio, pulseaudio-bluetooth, pulseaudio-zeroconf, pulseaudio-lirc, and pulseaudio-gconf from 9 to 8.3 or maybe it's 4, I then removed .config/pulseaudioctl and .config/pulse restarted and I have sound! thanks all this was really worrying me! On 08/04/2016 05:14 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Okay, my suggestion here would be first to downgrade libpulse then downgrade lightdm unless lightdm also gets downgraded by downgrading libpulse. Hope this helps. Oh, I forgot if you have speech-dispatcher-git on your system try spd-say "hello, world!" and see if you get any sound that way. On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, tim wrote: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:56:58 From: tim To: Jude DaShiell Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? Still stuck, downgraded lightdm and when attempting to downgrade pulseaudio, I run in to this warning: downgrading package pulseaudio (9.0-1 => 8.0-2) resolving dependencies... warning: cannot resolve "libpulse=8.0-2", a dependency of "pulseaudio" :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: pulseaudio :: Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) it's strange I can't get speech on anything, but when running mplayer a filename.mp3 I get sound! so am stuck, and speech dispatcher is at 0.8.4 i believe somewhere around there. I hope I don't have to reinstall cause of this. I doubt it but it's puzzling. On 8/3/16, Jude DaShiell wrote: First, alsamixer is being bogarted by pulseaudio. Probably pamixer will give you better results. Second, aplay is also bogarted by pulseaudio so download and use alsaplayer and that should make alsaplayer if all optional packages get installed capable of playing what aplay used to play. Third, I think I found why speech got broken both before and after lightdm is run for mate or gnome. My speech-dispatcher-git package just recently got updated to 0.9.0xxx and I found a speech-dispatcherd.service file available so I did systemctl enable speech-dispatcherd.service and rebooted the system. Invariably every time
Re: Orca does not speak
I don't know how accessibility on ubuntu command line works or what tool To do what the arch downgrade script does, you would have to get a package manager to show your installed package version and a a numbered list of all other versions. Then you'd select the version and select whether to ignore versions higher than what's installed in the future. Many times a whole group of packages have to be downgraded together in order not to break dependencies and in what you'll read below it's a pretty big list with respect to pulseaudio. How all of this is done with apt-get or aptitude I never did learn. From isfe...@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 21:04:12 2016 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:04:05 From: timTo: Jude DaShiell Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? I've fixed it! I had to downgrade libpulse, pulseaudio, pulseaudio-bluetooth, pulseaudio-zeroconf, pulseaudio-lirc, and pulseaudio-gconf from 9 to 8.3 or maybe it's 4, I then removed .config/pulseaudioctl and .config/pulse restarted and I have sound! thanks all this was really worrying me! On 08/04/2016 05:14 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Okay, my suggestion here would be first to downgrade libpulse then downgrade lightdm unless lightdm also gets downgraded by downgrading libpulse. Hope this helps. Oh, I forgot if you have speech-dispatcher-git on your system try spd-say "hello, world!" and see if you get any sound that way. On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, tim wrote: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:56:58 From: tim To: Jude DaShiell Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? Still stuck, downgraded lightdm and when attempting to downgrade pulseaudio, I run in to this warning: downgrading package pulseaudio (9.0-1 => 8.0-2) resolving dependencies... warning: cannot resolve "libpulse=8.0-2", a dependency of "pulseaudio" :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies: pulseaudio :: Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) it's strange I can't get speech on anything, but when running mplayer a filename.mp3 I get sound! so am stuck, and speech dispatcher is at 0.8.4 i believe somewhere around there. I hope I don't have to reinstall cause of this. I doubt it but it's puzzling. On 8/3/16, Jude DaShiell wrote: First, alsamixer is being bogarted by pulseaudio. Probably pamixer will give you better results. Second, aplay is also bogarted by pulseaudio so download and use alsaplayer and that should make alsaplayer if all optional packages get installed capable of playing what aplay used to play. Third, I think I found why speech got broken both before and after lightdm is run for mate or gnome. My speech-dispatcher-git package just recently got updated to 0.9.0xxx and I found a speech-dispatcherd.service file available so I did systemctl enable speech-dispatcherd.service and rebooted the system. Invariably every time speech-dispatcherd.service was started it failed. So no speech before or after login. Since /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/login.wav is on my system, I now have alsaplayer playing that with alsaplayer -q ./login.wav since I moved that to my home directory and it's in my .bashrc file since I wanted to hear if I got any successful login on lightdm and haven't heard login.wav play since these last updates. I wish I had better news, but that's where things appear to be now. Oh, if speech can't get enabled on the talkingarch system and you want to recover disk space a command like: sudo -H pacman -Rcsn xorg should clear the whole graphical user interface and all configurations from your system. It doesn't wipe configurations below your home directory though. The warning about this is, if you use vlc or mplayer or emacs you'll need to reinstall those to get your system back to normal unless maybe the ignore list can be used temporarily. On Wed, 3 Aug 2016, tim wrote: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:31:22 From: tim To: Jude DaShiell Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? Interestingly, I'm running arch, and I believe lightdm was in the packages to be upgraded, oddly enough, when I run lspci when chrooted in from a live system, the autigy card is listed. I can't run alsamixer cause i get this message. [root@sonar /]# alsamixer No protocol specified xcb_connection_has_error() returned true cannot open mixer: No such file or directory [root@sonar /]# everything was fine before this upgrade, and sound plays just fine with the onboard chip, but I have 0 sounds, nor speech such as orca, but I can still get to a terminal and issue commands like beep and commands to test sound so I'm logged in. You mentioned lightdm, should I downgrade that and see if it helps? thanks! On 8/3/16,
Re: Orca does not speak
yeah, that would be pretty much impossible with no speech. If I don't get a solution, I don't know what is next. Maybe the 32 bit install will not do this? Glenn - Original Message - From: "Jude DaShiell"To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Orca does not speak I don't know how accessibility on ubuntu command line works or what tool To do what the arch downgrade script does, you would have to get a package manager to show your installed package version and a a numbered list of all other versions. Then you'd select the version and select whether to ignore versions higher than what's installed in the future. Many times a whole group of packages have to be downgraded together in order not to break dependencies and in what you'll read below it's a pretty big list with respect to pulseaudio. How all of this is done with apt-get or aptitude I never did learn. >From isfe...@gmail.com Thu Aug 4 21:04:12 2016 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 21:04:05 From: tim To: Jude DaShiell Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? I've fixed it! I had to downgrade libpulse, pulseaudio, pulseaudio-bluetooth, pulseaudio-zeroconf, pulseaudio-lirc, and pulseaudio-gconf from 9 to 8.3 or maybe it's 4, I then removed .config/pulseaudioctl and .config/pulse restarted and I have sound! thanks all this was really worrying me! On 08/04/2016 05:14 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Okay, my suggestion here would be first to downgrade libpulse then > downgrade lightdm unless lightdm also gets downgraded by downgrading > libpulse. Hope this helps. Oh, I forgot if you have > speech-dispatcher-git on your system try spd-say "hello, world!" and > see if you get any sound that way. > > On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, tim wrote: > >> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 22:56:58 >> From: tim >> To: Jude DaShiell >> Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com >> Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? >> >> Still stuck, downgraded lightdm and when attempting to downgrade >> pulseaudio, I run in to this warning: downgrading package pulseaudio >> (9.0-1 => 8.0-2) >> resolving dependencies... >> warning: cannot resolve "libpulse=8.0-2", a dependency of "pulseaudio" >> :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable >> dependencies: >> pulseaudio >> >> :: Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n >> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) >> it's strange I can't get speech on anything, but when running mplayer >> a filename.mp3 I get sound! so am stuck, and speech dispatcher is at >> 0.8.4 i believe somewhere around there. I hope I don't have to >> reinstall cause of this. I doubt it but it's puzzling. >> >> On 8/3/16, Jude DaShiell wrote: >>> First, alsamixer is being bogarted by pulseaudio. Probably pamixer >>> will >>> give you better results. Second, aplay is also bogarted by pulseaudio >>> so download and use alsaplayer and that should make alsaplayer if all >>> optional packages get installed capable of playing what aplay used to >>> play. Third, I think I found why speech got broken both before and >>> after lightdm is run for mate or gnome. My speech-dispatcher-git >>> package just recently got updated to 0.9.0xxx and I found a >>> speech-dispatcherd.service file available so I did systemctl enable >>> speech-dispatcherd.service and rebooted the system. Invariably every >>> time speech-dispatcherd.service was started it failed. So no speech >>> before or after login. Since /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/login.wav >>> is on my system, I now have alsaplayer playing that with alsaplayer -q >>> ./login.wav since I moved that to my home directory and it's in my >>> .bashrc file since I wanted to hear if I got any successful login on >>> lightdm and haven't heard login.wav play since these last updates. I >>> wish I had better news, but that's where things appear to be now. Oh, >>> if speech can't get enabled on the talkingarch system and you want to >>> recover disk space a command like: >>> sudo -H pacman -Rcsn xorg >>> should clear the whole graphical user interface and all configurations >>> from your system. It doesn't wipe configurations below your home >>> directory though. The warning about this is, if you use vlc or mplayer >>> or emacs you'll need to reinstall those to get your system back to >>> normal unless maybe the ignore list can be used temporarily. >>> >>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016, tim wrote: >>> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:31:22 From: tim To: Jude DaShiell Cc: supp...@sonargnulinux.com Subject: Re: [Support] No sound after update? Interestingly, I'm running arch, and I believe lightdm was in the packages to be upgraded, oddly enough, when I run lspci when
Re: making an ISO image
When making isos, you supply a trunk directory ending with the slash character and understand all subdirectories below that trunk directory will be included in that iso. I've never tried that with dd. I've used a cdburn script that was put up on the speakup e-mail list several years ago to make isos. This may help I was trying for script improvements and I hope I cleaned all of the errors I made out of it for you: #!/usr/bin/env bash # file: cdburn - General-purpose CD burner script using cdrecord and mkisofs notes() { echo "0) edit dev on line 35 to point to cdrom" echo "1) recursive copying copies all of typed directory and everything" echo "below that typed directory into an iso image you have been warned." echo "2) before choosing 2 on menu put disk in burner." echo "works better that way." echo "3) tab key works in script same as at bash prompt." echo "4) enter anything but (1, 2, n, or x) on menu gets immediate bash prompt." echo -e "\a\c" echo "hit enter to return to menu->" read CHOICE } make_iso1() { echo echo -n "Enter name of top directory for recursive copying: " read INPUT echo -n "Enter name of ISO file image: " read ISOFILE echo -n "Enter volume label: " read VOLID sync sync sudo -H genisoimage -v -r -J -V $VOLID -o $ISOFILE $INPUT echo -e "\a\c" echo "hit enter to return to menu->" read CHOICE } write_data1() { echo -n "Enter name of ISO file: " read ISOFILE sync sync sudo -H wodim -v -sao fs=8m $ISOFILE sync sync ]; fi eject echo -e "\a\c" echo "hit enter to return to menu->" read CHOICE } bail() { echo "" echo "Exitting CD burner script!" exit 0 } # Main portion CHOICE="" while [ "$CHOICE" = "" ] ; do echo "CD Burner Main Menu" echo "" echo "1 - Build ISO image for single session CD" echo "2 - Burn a single session data CD" echo "n - read notes" echo "X - Exit" echo "" echo -n "Enter choice: " read CHOICE case "$CHOICE" in 1) make_iso1 ;; 2) write_data1 ;; n) notes ;; x) bail ;; esac done On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote: Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:01:10 From: Glenn / LennyTo: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: making an ISO image Hi, I have been trying several different programs including the DD command, and either the program seems inaccessible with Orca, or I was not able to place my image to be, into another drive. I am running Ubuntu from a live version on an 8GB card. I have a bootable USB 16GB thumb drive that I want to make into an ISO image on /dev/sda2. /dev/sda2 is where my old Ubuntu lives, and I cannot boot to, as grub got messed up, and I just fixed the MBR so I could at least boot into Windows on that system. On a side note, I tried fixing GRUB with no luck, so I will just get a larger drive and reinstall everything, and copy out files from that drive when I replace it. In the meantime, if I do get GRUB working again, this making an ISO image would be easier, because in one program I was using, it would only allow me to make an ISO of the USB drive into a directory of this live boot disk, which is only 8GB. The boot disk I am wanting to make a copy of is /dev/sdb So with DD, I tried: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda2/home/Downloads And I even tried it directly into /dev/sda2 and I tried all commands with giving the ISO a file name at the end, like /dev/sda2/usb-image.iso I tried it with acetoneiso and it gave me the same errors as DD did. I tried k3b and genisoimage, and a couple others. I would even write it to a folder on /sda1 if possible, which is an NTFS partition. Thanks for any ideas. Glenn -- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility