Re: [Support] Ubuntu-Mate Accessibility Review (1st draft)
I think I will stay away from mate sounds like it needs some serious work On 4/8/2015 3:20 PM, Dave Hunt wrote: This is a brief account of my experience with Ubuntu-Mate 15.04 Beta 2. If I were unfamiliar with Mate, and its accessibility quirks, I'd have had a lot of trouble; things are not really intuitive. Review below... HTH, Dave When the live system booted, I got the sound of bongos. At this point, I used 'ctrl+s' to toggle speech on. The introductory dialogue, with install Ubuntu and Try Ubuntu options is fully accessible; I tabbed to try, and hit the space key. My system went into a desktop; I only knew it was ready by the long absence of drive activity; an introductory sound would be helpful, here. When I figured that enough time had passed, I used 'alt+super+s' keys to toggle the speech on; this is a nice feature, and familiar to those using GNOME 3. Orca came on, as expected, but nothing was focused. I just happened to try 'ctrl+alt+d' and found that the desktop gets focus. From here, I could set my screen reader preferences in the expected way. Once I had Orca set up, I started exploring the menu system, by entering with 'alt+f1' keys. I found the expected three-column menu set on the top panel. I exited the menus and tried getting to the top panel, with 'alt+ctrl+tab' and 'alt+ctrl+esc' keys, but could only get to the bottom panel. Even with focus on the bottom, I found no way to reach the top, where my wifi options are likely shown. I went back into the menus, and found Preferences. In the 'look and feel' section, I found a new item called Mate Tweak, which I started, with hopes of messing with the interface. I found panels options, including Ubuntu Mate, Ubuntu Mate with Mate Menu, and an interesting one-- Redmond. Once I chose this option and left the tweak tool, I found I had a single-panel layout, with a single column of menus, similar to the layout you'd find on Trisquel 7. I had to use 'ctrl+alt+escape' to get to the panels, though, even after binding 'ctrl+alt+tab' for switching between desktop and panels. Anyway, once I got to the new bottom panel, I could connect to my wifi as expected. Having unlocked this monumental achievement, I launched a web browser, just to check connectivity. Since all seemed well, I closed the browser, and hit the 'install' button on the desktop. The installer is a typical session of Ubiquity, about which many of us have written before; it hasn't changed much, in terms of accessibility, since 14.04; I will mention, however, I had to toggle Orca a few times, when switching from one page to the next. When I started my new system, I found that the login greeter did not come up talking, as it would in Trisquel. The 'f4' keystroke got Orca talking on the dialogue, but attempts to explore it caused the greeter to crash, thereby preventing logins. I gave the 'reboot' command from another console, and waited. This time, the greeter came up talking, and I just entered my password. A talking Mate session, set up almost according to a previously-made configuration, came up. In the new session, alt+ctrl+tab' does not work as it should, though it is shown as bound in the Keyboard Shortcuts dialogue. I set the Redmond panel layout, as mentioned above, and did a few post-install things. The system is now running. ___ Support mailing list supp...@sonargnulinux.com http://sonargnulinux.com/mailman/listinfo/support_sonargnulinux.com -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired
please try to reach out to the developers. this program I am also told is one of the better tv sulutions for linux. Hank On 12/22/2012 2:45 PM, faginbagin wrote: I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital video recorder). Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/ It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ More details about Mythspeech can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user: Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life so much easier! How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend or family member who can help with this step. I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does not use Qt widgets. I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things that could be improved if there is interest. Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc. Regards, Helen -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
kde desktop with orca?
Hello any one know how well kde desktop works with ubuntu 12.04? also what package do I need to get if I choose to give it a try? I heard it is suposivly accessible or mostly accessible. Hank -- websites: http://www.xpango.com/?ref=92757322 http://hanksmith1.zeekrewards.com http://prelaunchx.com/x/hanksmith5 http://www.virtapay.com/r/hanksmith5 http://www.reality-networkers.com/index.php?refid=3950951 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net twitter: @hanksmith2011 facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
changing tabs in sounds under settings?
Hello under system settings, sound, how do you change tabs from output to input? left and write aros isn't doing the trick am using ubuntu 12.04 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
accessing the root directory from unity in ubuntu 12.04?
Hello I am trying to install my voxin tts engin and need to copy it to the main directory of my root in ubuntu 12.04how do I find this using unity? I don't see a my places unity equivolent. Hank -- personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 zello: hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
controling ubuntu remotely
Hello is there a program I can get that would allow me to control ubuntu remotely that has audio support? they have windows ones but am in search for a linux one. I would also be wanting to control orca as well via this method. thanks Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
unbuntu apps that are blind friendly?
hello does ubuntu come with audio and video apps by default, or do I have to install them? because I don't see much in the way of apps on my freshly installed ubuntu 12.04 system. if it doesn't come with anything can any one please recommend any good audio, video, recording apps, and other sip apps and just tons of good blind friendly orca apps I can put on to this installation of ubuntu with unity 2d? also does any one know of any tv tuner apps that work well to with orca? and a dvr app to? thanks bunches. Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
correction on last email on gnome
Hello correction on my last email don't run orca -t as sudo it has fixed one of the problems with it saying application now I just need to figure out how to shut down via gnome with out having to go in to terminal to power off the machine. -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
unity help with apps
Hello when going threw the list of apps I go to windows key home apps hit enter I am only seeing a hand full of apps. there isn't much that I am able to see how do I get to the different catagories of apps? etc? I did the following: down arrow to the home button, right arrow to the applications button, press ENTER, use the 4 arrows to explore the installed apps; they are in categories, so pressing enter on a button opens a new tile of applications. I am only seeing stuff like sound recorder and stuff like that not actual catagories, and the number of apps seems hardly any am confused. Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
got gnome working 99 percent with ubuntu 12 instructions follow
Hello I got gnome working with ubuntu 12 99 percent here is what I did. 1. log in to gnome no fx 2 hit alt f2 orca will not speak at this point 3 type in sudo gnome-terminal inter in password type orca -t go threw orca set up and answer prompts 4 log out here is where things get weird the log out prompt kept looping so I ended up buy restarting my ubuntu vm manually also the other thing it is doing is saying aplications each time I up and down aro threw the minues eg accessories internet this is rather anoying, and don't know how to fix this, would like any help with this. also I can't shut down the system, this oppsion is not showing up in gnome. this I also need help with. other them that it appears to be working. if any one can help me out with thisit would be appreciated. Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
getting festival, and flite working with orca under ubuntu 12?
Hello I installed flite, and festival speech synth, and uncommented the synths in my speech.conf file under /etc/speechdispatcher/speechd.conf how ever the 2 synths aren't showing up in the list. do I have to do anything else to get these to work with orca? Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
question about editing conf in ubuntu
hello is there a way in ubuntu 12.04 to edit config files with out having to go in to termonal? trying to edit my speech dispatcher.conf file and I don't want to do this in command line mode want to do this via gui. Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
gnome in ubuntu 12?
hello how do I also get gnome in ubuntu 12? do I have to install it manually? if so what do I do? want a fall back shell incase if I can't get around the unity desktop in 12.04 Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
finding apps in unity desktop?
Hello I looked at the keyboard shortcut list for unity desktop for http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts I am still trying to figure out how to get to my apps. how do I do this? I am not understanding something. not sure if its yunity or what but I can't seem to get to my apps or anything. I tried alt f2 and also the windows key. can some one help me out? also if there is any audio tutorials for unity desktop to it would be appreciated. when I used linux last it was with gnome so this is totally 100 percent new and verry different. thanks bunches. Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
gnome session fall back not speaking correctly in ubuntu 12
Hello I installed gnome session fall back selecte classic no effects it logs in okay goes to my desktop when I alt f1 to go to my apps orca doesn't speak anything same thing with alt f2 for the run command etc. something got broke some where below is the steps I followed exactly. Sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 3. Once done, do the following commands in order Sudo apt-get update Sudo apt-get upgrade 4. Install gnome-session-fallback Sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback 5. Restart the VM. any ideas what went wrong? Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
difference between gnome pannel and gnome session fallback?
hello what is the difference between gnome pannel and gnome session fall back? I never installed the gnome pannel just gnome session fall back, wonder if this is where my problems are happening? Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
booting to ubuntu live cd in vmware and starting orca?
Hello what is the process of booting ubuntu live cd 11.10 and starting orca in vmware work station? also once I get orca up how do I then install in vmware workstation? I am using windows 7 64 bit thanks bunches. Hank -- websites: http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 personal email: hanksm...@hanksmith.net facebook: http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 Klango: hanksmith Skype: hank.smith966 Amateur radio call sign: ke7ief check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A also you can find my youtube channel at: http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible
o what distro can do the things you mentioned currently? - Original Message - From: Peter Torpey ptorpe...@gmail.com To: 'Bill Cox' waywardg...@gmail.com; orca-l...@gnome.org; 'ubuntu' ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible It seems to me one of the big frustrations with Ubuntu is that these important tasks are not easily accessible for the blind user. It should be an easy and straightforward task for a blind person to at least install the OS without having to search around for documentation and hints on what magic sequence of keys to hit before anything starts talking at all. After all, if one can't even install the OS, the rest of the questions are irrelevant! Also, installing/updating packages is a key task that one needs to keep on top of since fixes and upgrades are constantly coming down the pipe. Again, if the blind user can't easily perform these common tasks, this is just one more hurdle that will prevent them from using the system and errors will occur if one has to make modifications by hand in order to perform these tasks. In summary, this system would be a lot more friendly to blind users if: 1. The install CD came up talking immediately without the user having to guess at where they are or what key sequences need to be pressed to get things going, and, 2. The updating of packages should be as straightforward for the blind user as it is for the sighted user. One shouldn't need additional modifications to perform these key tasks that require Su permissions. --Pete -Original Message- From: orca-list-boun...@gnome.org [mailto:orca-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Bill Cox Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:17 AM To: orca-l...@gnome.org; ubuntu Subject: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible Since Karmic, Ubuntu has not had a decent accessible software installer. Since Ubuntu has gone with a new Ubuntu Software Center, it may make sense to work on making that accessible. Is this already in the works? Is that the right place to put effort, or should we have blind users install the old gnome-app-installer? Bill ___ Orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2693 - Release Date: 02/18/10 02:34:00 ___ Orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility