Re: [Support] Ubuntu-Mate Accessibility Review (1st draft)

2015-04-08 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

I think I will stay away from mate
sounds like it needs some serious work


On 4/8/2015 3:20 PM, Dave Hunt wrote:
This is a brief account of my experience with Ubuntu-Mate 15.04 Beta 
2. If I were unfamiliar with Mate, and its accessibility quirks, I'd 
have had a lot of trouble; things are not really intuitive. Review 
below...



HTH,


Dave



When the live system booted, I got the sound of bongos. At this point, 
I used 'ctrl+s' to toggle speech on.  The introductory dialogue, with 
install Ubuntu and Try Ubuntu options is fully accessible; I 
tabbed to try, and hit the space key.  My system went into a 
desktop; I only knew it was ready by the long absence of drive 
activity; an introductory sound would be helpful, here. When I figured 
that enough time had passed, I used 'alt+super+s' keys to toggle the 
speech on; this is a nice feature, and familiar to those using GNOME 
3.  Orca came on, as expected, but nothing was focused.  I just 
happened to try 'ctrl+alt+d' and found that the desktop gets focus.  
From here, I could set my screen reader preferences in the expected 
way.  Once I had Orca set up, I started exploring the menu system, by 
entering with 'alt+f1' keys.  I found the expected three-column menu 
set on the top panel.  I exited the menus and tried getting to the top 
panel, with 'alt+ctrl+tab' and 'alt+ctrl+esc' keys, but could only get 
to the bottom panel.  Even with focus on the bottom, I found no way to 
reach the top, where my wifi options are likely shown.  I went back 
into the menus, and found Preferences. In the 'look and feel' section, 
I found a new item called Mate Tweak, which I started, with hopes of 
messing with the interface. I found panels options, including Ubuntu 
Mate, Ubuntu Mate with Mate Menu, and an interesting one--  Redmond.  
Once I chose this option and left the tweak tool, I found I had a 
single-panel layout, with a single column of menus, similar to the 
layout you'd find on Trisquel 7. I had to use 'ctrl+alt+escape' to get 
to the panels, though, even after binding 'ctrl+alt+tab' for switching 
between desktop and panels. Anyway, once I got to the new bottom 
panel, I could connect to my wifi as expected.   Having unlocked this 
monumental achievement, I launched a web browser, just to check 
connectivity. Since all seemed well, I closed the browser, and hit the 
'install' button on the desktop.


The installer is a typical session of Ubiquity, about which many of us 
have written before; it hasn't changed much, in terms of 
accessibility, since 14.04; I will mention, however, I had to toggle 
Orca a few times, when switching from one page to the next.


When I started my new system, I found that the login greeter did not 
come up talking, as it would in Trisquel. The 'f4' keystroke got Orca 
talking on the dialogue, but attempts to explore it caused the greeter 
to crash, thereby preventing logins.  I gave the 'reboot' command from 
another console, and waited. This time, the greeter came up talking, 
and I just entered my password.  A talking Mate session, set up almost 
according to a previously-made configuration, came up.  In the new 
session, alt+ctrl+tab' does not work as it should, though it is shown 
as bound in the Keyboard Shortcuts dialogue.  I set the Redmond panel 
layout, as mentioned above, and did a few post-install things. The 
system is now running.


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Re: Mythspeech - mythtv for blind/visually impaired

2012-12-22 Thread Hank Smith
please try to reach out to the developers. this program I am also told 
is one of the better tv sulutions for linux.

Hank
On 12/22/2012 2:45 PM, faginbagin wrote:
I'd like to announce Mythspeech, which makes it easier for the blind 
and/or visually impaired to use MythTV, an open source DVR (digital 
video recorder).


Information about MythTV can be found here: http://www.mythtv.org/
It is supported by Ubuntu and there is a Ubuntu based distribution 
customized specifically for MythTV, Mythbuntu: http://www.mythbuntu.org/


More details about Mythspeech can be found here: 
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythSpeech


Mythspeech is not a perfect solution, but I'm told by one user:
Maria is VERY happy with her talking MythTV, and it has made her life 
so much easier!


How imperfect is the current implementation of mythspeech? One glaring 
example is that it cannot help with the initial setup and 
configuration of MythTV. I think you will need some vision or a friend 
or family member who can help with this step.


I would very much like to talk to developers with experience in 
accessibility. The current implementation of Mythspeech builds on 
MythTV's support for LCD displays and uses speech-dispatcher's API, 
but I'm thinking a better long term approach might be to implement 
Qt's accessibility classes. MythTV is a Qt application, but it does 
not use Qt widgets.


I would also like to know if there are interested users whose first 
language is not English. MythTV has been translated into many 
languages, and mythspeech should be able to speak in those languages, 
if they are supported by speech-dispatcher. But there are some things 
that could be improved if there is interest.


Of course, I welcome any and all feedback, bug reports, etc.

Regards,
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kde desktop with orca?

2012-08-12 Thread Hank Smith

Hello any one know how well kde desktop works with ubuntu 12.04?
also what package do I need to get if I choose to give it a try?
I heard it is suposivly accessible or mostly accessible.
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changing tabs in sounds under settings?

2012-06-23 Thread Hank Smith
Hello under system settings, sound, how do you change tabs from output 
to input?

left and write aros isn't doing the trick
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accessing the root directory from unity in ubuntu 12.04?

2012-05-22 Thread Hank Smith
Hello I am trying to install my voxin tts engin and need to copy it to 
the main directory of my root in ubuntu 12.04how do I find this using unity?

I don't see a my places unity equivolent.
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controling ubuntu remotely

2012-04-25 Thread Hank Smith
Hello is there a program I can get that would allow me to control ubuntu 
remotely that has audio support?

they have windows ones but am in search for a linux one.
I would also be wanting to control orca as well via this method.
thanks
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unbuntu apps that are blind friendly?

2012-04-21 Thread Hank Smith
hello does ubuntu come with audio and video apps by default, or do I 
have to install them?
because I don't see much in the way of apps on my freshly installed 
ubuntu 12.04 system.
if it doesn't come with anything can any one please recommend any good 
audio, video, recording apps, and other sip apps and just tons of good 
blind friendly orca apps I can put on to this installation of ubuntu 
with unity 2d?
also does any one know of any tv tuner apps that work well to with orca? 
and a dvr app to?

thanks bunches.
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correction on last email on gnome

2012-04-10 Thread Hank Smith

Hello correction on my last email
don't run
orca -t as sudo
it has fixed one of the problems with it saying application now I just 
need to figure out how to shut down via gnome with out having to go in 
to terminal to power off the machine.


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unity help with apps

2012-04-09 Thread Hank Smith

Hello when going threw the list of apps I go to windows key
home
apps
hit enter
I am only seeing a hand full of apps.
there isn't much that I am able to see how do I get to the different 
catagories of apps? etc?

I did the following:
down arrow to the home button, right arrow to the applications button, press
ENTER, use the 4 arrows to explore the installed apps; they are in
categories, so pressing enter on a button opens a new tile of applications.

I am only seeing stuff like sound recorder and stuff like that not 
actual catagories, and the number of apps seems hardly any am confused.

Hank

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got gnome working 99 percent with ubuntu 12 instructions follow

2012-04-09 Thread Hank Smith

Hello I got gnome working with ubuntu 12 99 percent
here is what I did.
1.
log in to gnome no fx
2
hit alt f2
orca will not speak at this point
3
type in
sudo gnome-terminal
inter in password
type
orca -t
go threw orca set up and answer prompts
4
log out
here is where things get weird
the log out prompt kept looping
so I ended up buy restarting
my ubuntu vm manually
also the other thing it is doing is saying aplications each time I up 
and down aro threw the minues eg accessories internet
this is rather anoying, and don't know how to fix this, would like any 
help with this.

also I can't shut down the system, this oppsion is not showing up in gnome.
this I also need help with.
other them that it appears to be working.
if any one can help me out with thisit would be appreciated.
Hank

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getting festival, and flite working with orca under ubuntu 12?

2012-04-09 Thread Hank Smith
Hello I installed flite, and festival speech synth, and uncommented the 
synths in my speech.conf file under /etc/speechdispatcher/speechd.conf

how ever the 2 synths aren't showing up in the list.
do I have to do anything else to get these to work with orca?
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question about editing conf in ubuntu

2012-04-08 Thread Hank Smith
hello is there a way in ubuntu 12.04 to edit config files with out 
having to go in to termonal?
trying to edit my speech dispatcher.conf file and I don't want to do 
this in command line mode want to do this via gui.

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gnome in ubuntu 12?

2012-04-08 Thread Hank Smith

hello how do I also get gnome in ubuntu 12?
do I have to install it manually? if so what do I do?
want a fall back shell incase if I can't get around the unity desktop in 
12.04

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finding apps in unity desktop?

2012-04-08 Thread Hank Smith

Hello I looked at the keyboard shortcut list for unity desktop for
http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts
I am still trying to figure out how to get to my apps.
how do I do this?
I am not understanding something. not sure if its yunity or what but I 
can't seem to get to my apps or anything.

I tried alt f2 and also the windows key.
can some one help me out?
also if there is any audio tutorials for unity desktop to it would be 
appreciated.
when I used linux last it was with gnome so this is totally 100 percent 
new and verry different.

thanks bunches.
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gnome session fall back not speaking correctly in ubuntu 12

2012-04-08 Thread Hank Smith

Hello I installed gnome session fall back
selecte classic no effects
it logs in okay
goes to my desktop
when I alt f1
to go to my apps orca doesn't speak anything
same thing with alt f2 for the run command etc.
something got broke some where below is the steps I followed exactly.
Sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3

3. Once done, do the following commands in order

Sudo apt-get update
Sudo apt-get upgrade

4. Install gnome-session-fallback

Sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback

5. Restart the VM.
any ideas what went wrong?
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difference between gnome pannel and gnome session fallback?

2012-04-08 Thread Hank Smith
hello what is the difference between gnome pannel and gnome session fall 
back?
I never installed the gnome pannel just gnome session fall back, wonder 
if this is where my problems are happening?

Hank

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booting to ubuntu live cd in vmware and starting orca?

2012-04-07 Thread Hank Smith
Hello what is the process of booting ubuntu live cd 11.10 and starting 
orca in vmware work station?

also once I get orca up how do I then install in vmware workstation?
I am using windows 7 64 bit
thanks bunches.
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Re: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible

2010-02-18 Thread hank smith
o what distro can do the things you mentioned currently?
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Subject: Re: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible


 It seems to me one of the big frustrations with Ubuntu is that these
 important tasks are not easily accessible for the blind user.

 It should be an easy and straightforward task for a blind person to at 
 least
 install the OS without having to search around for documentation and hints
 on what magic sequence of keys to hit before anything starts talking at 
 all.
 After all, if one can't even install the OS, the rest of the questions are
 irrelevant!

 Also, installing/updating packages is a key task that one needs to keep on
 top of since fixes and upgrades are constantly coming down the pipe. 
 Again,
 if the blind user can't easily perform these common tasks, this is just 
 one
 more hurdle that will prevent them from using the system and errors will
 occur if one has to make modifications by hand in order to perform these
 tasks.

 In summary, this system would be a lot more friendly to blind users if:
 1.  The install CD came up talking immediately without the user having to
 guess at where they are or what key sequences need to be pressed to get
 things going, and,
 2.  The updating of packages should be as straightforward for the blind 
 user
 as it is for the sighted user.  One shouldn't need additional 
 modifications
 to perform these key tasks that require Su permissions.

 --Pete


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 Subject: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible

 Since Karmic, Ubuntu has not had a decent accessible software
 installer.  Since Ubuntu has gone with a new Ubuntu Software Center,
 it may make sense to work on making that accessible.  Is this already
 in the works?  Is that the right place to put effort, or should we
 have blind users install the old gnome-app-installer?

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