method for accessing the installer doesn't work in intreped
Hello all, The method of accessing the installer doesn't seem to work in intreped. When I down arrow, press f5, 3, enter enter, it brings up a log on screen and I hit enter and orca doesn't come up in the installer. Is there another way of accessing it now? Thanks, Mike -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: say all question
mike coulombe wrote: Hi, what is the correct command for say all. Thanks Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071031-1, 10/31/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Insirt and numpad pluss. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Disappointed with Gutsy live (long)
I share your disappointments, I can't even get the live CD to work here. We've been basically excluded from the testing phase of this version also. Mike - Original Message - From: Deborah Norling To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Disappointed with Gutsy live (long) I like Ubuntu, because as they say, it usually just works. I run a feisty-based server and helped my sighted husband set up MythTV on a pre-release of Gutsy. That's why I'm particularly disappointed with the newly released Gutsy live desktop CD. I'm posting this in detail in hopes that I've just missed something crucial. I played with the Feisty live CD back in March and April of this year, before and after it was released. I never successfully installed Feisty using Orca. I had no trouble at all with Ubuntu (any version) if I stuck to the alternate or server install CD, and installed using the serial port. But the problems I had with Feisty six months ago seem to still be occurring. Serial ports are disappearing from desktops so I want to be able to use Linux without needing to depend on speakup, hardware synthesizers or serial consoles. At this point Linux is a hobby; I work as a Windows computer tech for a college. But I hope to eventually ditch Windows and even find employment working in a non-windows environment. I boot the Gutsy live desktop CD and press F5 for the access options. I press 3 or arrow down to it, to activate Orca. I press ENTER twice and wait a couple of minutes. Orca runs, and it seems to be working as well as it ever worked. It can't read help, which would seem to be the first thing a new user would want to do, but OpenOffice does work, so I presume it is happy with my hardware. I run brltty by quitting orca, running gnome-terminal, typing sudo su and on the next command line typing brltty -bauto -d/dev/ttyUSB0. Brltty runs, but says the screen is not in text mode. Ok, guess even in a terminal, we aren't in text mode. It would be nice if this was better documented; the need to run brltty for Braille support, even though Braille support is already checked in the Orca preferences, the fact that even in gnome-terminal the screen is presumably not text-based, and the fact that help isn't working. I can add to the wiki of course. but would beginners know to look there? What about a readme on the CD, which auto-starts in Windows with a screen that's basically advertising for Ubuntu with no real information. Or maybe just a how-to page on the Ubuntu site that covers all this. I am eager to improve the docs, but I have to get it running first and know what I'm doing. Another disappointment: this is still brltty 3.72. The Orca wiki states that it's better to use 3.8 because it can be compiled with the python bindings -- so why is an older, less effective version on this new live CD? I run Orca again and now it is communicating with brltty. Python bindings or not, it seems to show everything in Braille just fine. On my Windows PC, I search the internet for information about installing Gutsy using Orca. Lots of info about conflicts with different versions of portaudio, forum postings about how cool it is that Ubuntu is accessible, but no definitive tutorial or how-to on installing. A few days ago, I found lots more information on fixing MythTV problems. It's disappointing that there is so little information as I do believe strongly in RTFM. I've already tried the Install icon from the desktop with my husband reading the screen. He confirms that the install runs, but Orca can only echo keystrokes, it reads nothing in the install dialogs. I locate instructions on installing Feisty with Orca, the same wiki page I've myself contributed to. I follow those instructions, running gnome-terminal, typing sudo su, quitting orca, then running orca again with orca --disable-setup --disable main-window. I next type ubiquity, and the install runs, but still, Orca can't read any of it. Not even in flat review does it see anything. Between these tests I've done alt-ctrl-backspace to kill the X session, and brltty remains active, informing me that default boot scripts are being run. Each time Orca does automatically load and work with Braille. It crashes once, but I get it back easily, and the system seems generally stable. At one point, I try running gparted as root, and though ps confirms that gparted is running, Orca can't read its screen either. Is orca only really able to let me access just a few productivity apps? I saw that Sun at CSUN had done a session on MythTV with Orca last year, so I'd expected Orca to work with a wide variety of software. I've tried this on several PCS and I can't figure out if Orca is really this undeveloped or I'm doing something wrong. I've looked on the wiki at what I presume are the latest release notes; they discuss details
Re: Disappointed with Gutsy live (long)
I've tried it in a vm on windows and natively on the cd and no luck in eather case. I think we should wait until it is finally confirmed that the cd works properly. Mike - Original Message - From: Jude DaShiell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Disappointed with Gutsy live (long) I read over on the speakup list of another failed attempt to get the system upgraded from feisty to gutsy using the CD if memory serves. Apparently not all the hardware that was on the computer was supported by gutsy so dpkg went into a Catch #22 situation where further upgrading is blocked because dpkg couldn't install a package correctly and completely. On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Mike Reiser wrote: I share your disappointments, I can't even get the live CD to work here. We've been basically excluded from the testing phase of this version also. Mike - Original Message - From: Deborah Norling To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Disappointed with Gutsy live (long) I like Ubuntu, because as they say, it usually just works. I run a feisty-based server and helped my sighted husband set up MythTV on a pre-release of Gutsy. That's why I'm particularly disappointed with the newly released Gutsy live desktop CD. I'm posting this in detail in hopes that I've just missed something crucial. I played with the Feisty live CD back in March and April of this year, before and after it was released. I never successfully installed Feisty using Orca. I had no trouble at all with Ubuntu (any version) if I stuck to the alternate or server install CD, and installed using the serial port. But the problems I had with Feisty six months ago seem to still be occurring. Serial ports are disappearing from desktops so I want to be able to use Linux without needing to depend on speakup, hardware synthesizers or serial consoles. At this point Linux is a hobby; I work as a Windows computer tech for a college. But I hope to eventually ditch Windows and even find employment working in a non-windows environment. I boot the Gutsy live desktop CD and press F5 for the access options. I press 3 or arrow down to it, to activate Orca. I press ENTER twice and wait a couple of minutes. Orca runs, and it seems to be working as well as it ever worked. It can't read help, which would seem to be the first thing a new user would want to do, but OpenOffice does work, so I presume it is happy with my hardware. I run brltty by quitting orca, running gnome-terminal, typing sudo su and on the next command line typing brltty -bauto -d/dev/ttyUSB0. Brltty runs, but says the screen is not in text mode. Ok, guess even in a terminal, we aren't in text mode. It would be nice if this was better documented; the need to run brltty for Braille support, even though Braille support is already checked in the Orca preferences, the fact that even in gnome-terminal the screen is presumably not text-based, and the fact that help isn't working. I can add to the wiki of course. but would beginners know to look there? What about a readme on the CD, which auto-starts in Windows with a screen that's basically advertising for Ubuntu with no real information. Or maybe just a how-to page on the Ubuntu site that covers all this. I am eager to improve the docs, but I have to get it running first and know what I'm doing. Another disappointment: this is still brltty 3.72. The Orca wiki states that it's better to use 3.8 because it can be compiled with the python bindings -- so why is an older, less effective version on this new live CD? I run Orca again and now it is communicating with brltty. Python bindings or not, it seems to show everything in Braille just fine. On my Windows PC, I search the internet for information about installing Gutsy using Orca. Lots of info about conflicts with different versions of portaudio, forum postings about how cool it is that Ubuntu is accessible, but no definitive tutorial or how-to on installing. A few days ago, I found lots more information on fixing MythTV problems. It's disappointing that there is so little information as I do believe strongly in RTFM. I've already tried the Install icon from the desktop with my husband reading the screen. He confirms that the install runs, but Orca can only echo keystrokes, it reads nothing in the install dialogs. I locate instructions on installing Feisty with Orca, the same wiki page I've myself contributed to. I follow those instructions, running gnome-terminal, typing sudo su, quitting orca, then running orca again with orca --disable-setup --disable main-window. I next type ubiquity, and the install runs, but still, Orca can't read any of it. Not even in flat review
Re: Orca on the live CD of September 29
On the live cd I'm guessing there's no password so I guess you do the same stuff but without the password? Mike - Original Message - From: Jude DaShiell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Simon Bienlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ubuntu-accessibility Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Orca on the live CD of September 29 You first have to set orca up to work. After you next log in, control-f2 and type sudo gnome-terminal cr. If you get asked for password key it in. Then type orca -t cr. This is what to type to set orca up. On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, Simon Bienlein wrote: Hello everyone, When I start the live CD of September 29, I am able to call the run dialogue via Alt+F2. When orca is entered here, there is no screen output. Is there anyone on this list whose Orca actually works on the live CD? BrlTTY does not cause any problems. The Braille display is being recognized and I am able to smoothly work with it on the console (Strg+Alt+F1). When I want to configure orca in the text modus and enter orca -t, I receive a couple of error messages, but the set-up is not being started: $ orca -t /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:72: GtkWarning: could not open display warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning) Traceback (most recent call last): File string, line 1, in module File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/orca/orca.py, line 56, in module import httpserver File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/orca/httpserver.py, line 36, in module import speech File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/orca/speech.py, line 35, in module import keynames File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/orca/keynames.py, line 29, in module import chnames File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/orca/chnames.py, line 116 SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xc2' in file /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/orca/chnames.py on line 116, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details Thanks in advance for your hints. Simon -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: does orca now work on the live cd
I just downloaded it and am about to try it, will report how things go. mike aim screen name: chrchmiker. msn screen name; [EMAIL PROTECTED] blog url: http://archenemy6661.livejournal.com feel free to comment! - Original Message - From: mike coulombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: does orca now work on the live cd Hi, I was thinking of trying the beta, has anyone tried it yet. If so does orca now work on the live CD. Thanks Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
still no go with orca on live CD
Just tried the beta live cd and still no go with orca on the live cd. However I tried the accessibility options way, I hheard that it could be installed with orca if you start it after starting ubuntu. Mikeaim screen name: chrchmiker. msn screen name; [EMAIL PROTECTED] blog url: http://archenemy6661.livejournal.com feel free to comment! -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Managed to install the latest Ubuntu Gutsy with Orca
Were you able to boot off the cd and get orca talking that way? Mike - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Managed to install the latest Ubuntu Gutsy with Orca Hi all, Earlier today I downloaded the daily build of the Ubuntu Gutsy CD just for fun. I was able to install with Orca as before. When the installation finished and I restarted Orca come up talking after i had logged in to Gnome. All the best, Christian -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Orca and the Live CD
that was supposed to have been fixed but that bug persists. Waiting to here from the person responsible for emplamenting the work on orca on how the progress on this bug is going.. Stay tuned hopefully it'll be fixed before final release. mike aim screen name: chrchmiker. msn screen name; [EMAIL PROTECTED] blog url: http://archenemy6661.livejournal.com feel free to comment! - Original Message - From: Simon Bienlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-accessibility Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 5:46 AM Subject: Orca and the Live CD Hi, I am interested in version 7.10 that is currently still in development and that is supposed to be released on October 18. Upon testing the live CD of September 21, I noticed that my BrlTTY Braille display was recognized but that the screen reader Orca could not be started. My brother deleted a panel applet as this caused an error. Then, I pressed Alt+F2 and entered orca. Nothing happened. Neither was I able to retrieve the Orca version via the console (Strg+Alt+F1) with the command orca --version. I did not receive an output and the input prompt of the shell was not displayed either. How should one proceed if one wants to try out or install the Ubuntu Live CD with the screen reader Orca? The unstable version of Debian GNU/Linux works flawlessly with Orca on my laptop. Therefore, I actually rule out problems with the hardware support of my laptop. Thanks in advance for your hints. Simon -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca still doesn't work on the live cd
Someone is working on fixing this for tribe 4. Mike - Original Message - From: mike coulombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: orca still doesn't work on the live cd Hi, we are getting close to the end of the cycle for this version of ubuntu. Has anything been done to come up with a way to get orca working in this version on the live CD. Or will this version be released inaccessible. I have been away for a few days. So if this has already been asked and answered sorry for asking again. Mike. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
