Re: Greetings...
Well, it still has subscribers, for what that's worth. That's about all I know, however, as I've been somewhat out of touch. Regards, Luke Davis On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Juan Montoya wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Juan, I joined the and accessibility team expecting to lend > a hand in whatever makes Ubuntu easier to use. > > I can translate from and to Spanish. > I am interested in accessibility for visually disabled users and > mouse-disabled users, since this will help not only blind people. > > Is this group still active? > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu 9.04 loss of sound on dist-upgrade & high-speed speech problem
Hello Continuation of my problems with 9.04 (Jaunty). I've stopped using the talking install option, since it left me with high speed speech, which I could not at the time resolve. Using the accessibility profile: If I install from the live CD, I get the high speed speech. However, if I install from the live CD, and do a purge of pulseaudio (which removes ubuntu-desktop), I get a fully functioning orca. Now, interestingly, even doing that, there appears to be a pulse running at some level, so not sure what's up with that. The third option: I can install from the LiveCD without purging pulseaudio, and get the highspeed speech. If I then purge pulseaudio, I have normal speed speech again. A dist-upgrade still breaks everything (sound goes away completely), somewhere shortly after the configuration of the Ekiga softphone takes place. It may be a laptop hardware oddity, but the startup (post-login) sound clip sometimes skips a little. It did it on the live CD about 70% of the times I booted that CD (which I did about 20 times in the past few days). Luke On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Nimer Jaber wrote: > You can start orca after it logs you on and the log on sound is heard by > pressing alt+f2 and typing orca. You can invoke it from the virtual consol as > well. > > Thanks > Nimer J > > Nimer M. Jaber > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which > it > is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any > review, > retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in > reliance > upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient > is > prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender via reply > e-mail, and delete the > material from any computer. > > Phone: > (720) (251-4530) > > > luke Davis wrote: > > It's been a while since I did this: what is the method to start orca in > > the regular install? > > As simple as going to a virtual console and invoking it? > > I tried an alt-F2 during the install just for kicks, and it failed to > > invoke a run dialog. > > > > Yes, I can try it, but not until later in the day--my time is up, and I > > have to go with what I have, which is having to run from the jaunty live > > CD, and hope that I don't need anything I can't do from an ssh connection > > from gnome-terminal. > > I should have a few hours downtime during the day, and will try it then. > > > > Thank you for your advice. > > > > Luke > > > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Nimer Jaber wrote: > > > > > Can you try an installation of ubuntu with the regular profile where you > > > purge pulseaudio before starting the install or after installation > > > commences? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Nimer J > > > > > > Nimer M. Jaber > > > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > > > which > > > it > > > is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any > > > review, > > > retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in > > > reliance > > > upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended > > > recipient > > > is > > > prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender via > > > reply > > > e-mail, and delete the > > > material from any computer. > > > > > > Phone: > > > (720) (251-4530) > > > > > > > > > luke Davis wrote: > > > > Those were exactly the keystrokes used, and their effect was visually > > > > verified when I started the installation. > > > > > > > > All of the .pulse files appeared; and the dbus launches of pulse-session > > > > were running; and purgeing pulseaudio made alsa think there was no sound > > > > card, so I would say that pulse was definitely installed. > > > > > > > > Luke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Nimer Jaber wrote: > > > > > > > > >Then you shouldn't have to disable pulseaudio, as by default, 9.04 > > > > > uses > > > > > alsaaudio. Is it possible that the accessibility profile didn't get > > > > > applied? > > > > > On boot, enter for English, f5, 3, enter, enter should get you an > > > > > accessibility profile. Otherwise, just use the regular profile and > &g
Re: urgent: Ubuntu 9.04 high-speed speech problem
Update: I will still get this if I re-install, which I may do. However for now, I have dist-upgraded within jaunty. At that, orca produced no sound at all. I installed sox, and trying to play an mp3 file got me no sound at all. I installed aumixer, and changed the system volume from 0 to 100. The mp3 plaied, but orca still wouldn't speak. Rebooting yet again got me a system with seemingly no sound. So maybe 9.04 is not as functional as I thought. figuring I have nothing to lose, I am purging pulseaudio. Luke On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, luke Davis wrote: > Hello > > I have recently had to reinstall Ubuntu on my laptop, and went with 9.04. > Starting to regret it, since I wanted LVM, but the installer doesn't > include it, but that's neither here nor there. > > My urgent usability problem is: orca is starting when I alt-F2 and type > orca, but it says everything at an incomprehensible high speed, as > described previously on this list. > > I have tried the "touch ~/.pulse_a11y_nostart" solution oft-described on > these lists, but it had absolutely no effect. > > I need this laptop for a job in a few hours--are there any other solutions > which might be implemented, since the touch option doesn't work? > > an "ls .pulse*" gets: > > .pulse_a11y_nostart .pulse-cookie > > .pulse: > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:default-sink > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:default-source > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:device-volumes.i486-pc-linux-gnu.gdbm > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:runtime > 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:stream-volumes.i486-pc-linux-gnu.gdbm > > Luke > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
urgent: Ubuntu 9.04 high-speed speech problem
Hello I have recently had to reinstall Ubuntu on my laptop, and went with 9.04. Starting to regret it, since I wanted LVM, but the installer doesn't include it, but that's neither here nor there. My urgent usability problem is: orca is starting when I alt-F2 and type orca, but it says everything at an incomprehensible high speed, as described previously on this list. I have tried the "touch ~/.pulse_a11y_nostart" solution oft-described on these lists, but it had absolutely no effect. I need this laptop for a job in a few hours--are there any other solutions which might be implemented, since the touch option doesn't work? an "ls .pulse*" gets: .pulse_a11y_nostart .pulse-cookie .pulse: 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:default-sink 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:default-source 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:device-volumes.i486-pc-linux-gnu.gdbm 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:runtime 1f9aa7f71fe9e9c03ed0552a4b2b0d12:stream-volumes.i486-pc-linux-gnu.gdbm Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: Vibuntu the most accessible Ubuntu Linux live cd for theVisually Impaired EVA III
I have avoided chiming in on this one to date, and I will probably avoid it in future, but I wanted to say this... I am a person who reads those stock and investment plan (some would say scheme) newsletters, such as the stuff produced by the Sovereign Society and S&A Research (basically the whole Agora family) for fun and amusement (and the odd useful piece of investment information). If you know what I'm talking about, then you know that I know whereof I speak, when I say that I have seen copyrighting and "creative" advertising, ranging from the absolutely absurd, to the world class. While claiming Vibuntu as "the first fully accessible version of Linux...", or variations on that phrase, is certainly hyperbolic and rather overdone, it may have some effect with the target population. and isn't that the point of marketing? Getting a foot in the door? I probably would not have said it, but then I have never been good at selling things. Systems like Slackware, and I think even Redhat, have been fully accessible (or at least as accessible) for years, _if_ you knew how to get started. But that's the problem: if you need a howto in order to get it going, even if it's a relatively short one, you're already behind the ball, in trying to get your foot in the door. I believe it can be said to be true that most blind people using Windows, had a sightie do the installation. By the time the blind user got to the system, it was likely already talking, or could be made so with relative ease. With Linux, having someone else do the install is rarely an option. So, you start out, when promoting it, in "catch up" mode. Add to that, having to go to some web site, and follow a possibly complex set of instructions in a howto (complex to someone who has only ever used Windows, or never used anything), when they have never actually heard of a HowTo, and aren't convinced that "this Linux thing" is worth all the trouble, is not at all a good beginning. I have nothing invested in VIbuntu (except that I like the name:)), and am not myself convinced that it is a necessary project on its own (I.E. that it might not be better for it to either absorb, or be absorbed into, another project). I have seen (and been a part of) too many projects driven by a need and a key personality (I.E. not driven by a team), that started out with a bang, but then flamed out just when they had a chance, because they did not have enough of a foundation in the community they existed to operate within and support, so I am cautious. However the need is real, and since this does seem, at least as I understand the situation, to be a reasonable way of going about things for a quick launch of a good idea (which, unlike many other good ideas, has a substantive product behind it), I say why not? Yeah it has bugs. Yeah there are things I think could and should be changed about the way it operates. Yeah remastersys is probably not the best way to roll a distribution. Who cares? It works, it is out there, and it is constantly being worked on--I do not believe that the self-proclaimed deluded megalomaniac has claimed that it is complete and perfect yet. Anthony may eventually decide to merge Vibuntu with something else. We may even discover that it does not appeal to the intended target audience for what ever reason. Ubuntu may even recognize the value in adding at least a beeping bootloader, and a less tricky installation process for disabled users. That would go a long way to eliminating the need for this project, I think, and is probably the way I would rather see things go. But so what? Are we not all about offering alternatives and choices? Too many choices can be a bad thing. Are we even close to having too many choices yet? I have seen many people confused by which distribution to get into; but I have seen more of them struggling through the trials of getting their chosen distribution up and talking fully in a productive way, to think that there is no value in what Anthony is doing. "Put this CD in, boot it up, and follow the spoken or brailled or magnified instructions", is not usually the response given to such questions. Maybe soon it can be. That is probably simplistic--one must still understand partitioning and multi booting and such, but that is well documented in simple ways. To me, the holy grail of Linux deployment is "it just works". Am I likely to use VIBuntu for anything other than a lark, or to aid with development? No. I've been using Linux for twelve or more years, and unixes longer than that. I'm used to the hardships and hitches, and know where to find help, and what questions to ask. but then, it wasn't meant for me, was it? Regards, Luke On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Anthony Sales wrote: > Hi Tom, its the self-deluded megalomaniac who thinks he has solved all of the > world's problems with a simple remix of Ubuntu. I think the key here is to > remember that thi
