Re: [orca-list] Initial Finding Re: Quantal GNOME Shell Remix
Glad someone has had time to look into this release. Abiword and Gnumeric, eh? Yuck. Wonder why they put those old things in there. Libreoffice is the more logical obvious choice. More accessible too. Does anyone know why on Earth Abiword and Gnumeric, two venerable applications that crop up any time Libre or Openoffice isn't installed on a desktop system are still inaccessible? Is it something that can be helped along wiht e-mail to the devs? Seems I ran across one to Abiword devs some time back where they didn't know what to do to get their app accessible. they seemed willing enough to listen. You'd think Gnu would have more of its apps accessible. Take Emacs. Somebody else had to write a whole bunch of code to get it accessible and not through x and, I understand they do't want to include any of the code form that project with regular emacs. Seems lots of their stuff is inaccessible or has long-standing issues like GnuCash for instance. Alex M On 10/2/12, Dave Hunt ka1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I installed this remix to a flash drive; the live system booted with no errors. Access to the shell seems improved over shell access in Precise. The included GNumeric, Abiword, and Evolution are not accessible. Epiphany browser (included instead of Firefox) seems to work and be accessible, though I didn't try many sites. Access to the GNOME terminal is sufficient. Given all this, I attempted an installation to my hard drive. The installer's initial screen is accessible, but once I hit the 'continue' button, the installer is no longer accessible. I looked in the terminal and saw, for each line of what would be the dialogue where installer talks about proprietary software and prompts for whether to install this, a message toolkit does not exist follows. Maybe I'll try this again on Quantal's release day. Cheers, Dave ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] Initial Finding Re: Quantal GNOME Shell Remix
El mié, 03-10-2012 a las 04:01 -0500, Alex Midence escribió: Glad someone has had time to look into this release. Abiword and Gnumeric, eh? Yuck. Wonder why they put those old things in there. Libreoffice is the more logical obvious choice. Well, I think that they included those applications because they were born in the GNOME community as part of the GNOME Office effort. After the release of OpenOffice as free software project, the GNOME project decided it wasn't worth to spend too much resources for developing a GNOME Office suite, though some people like the alternative vision of the office programs already started like Abiword and Gnumeric and they keep contributing. Unfortunately, they aren't accessible :-( Apart from that, _I_ guess that space constraints could be another reason to bundle this apps instead of LibreOffice. PS: By the way, LibreOffice/OpenOffice is older that any Linux or GNOME piece of software. OpenOffice started off as Star Office. Star Writer became OpenOffice Writer. A team of German programmers worked on Star Office. The German company StarDivision in Lüneburg (founded by 16-year-old Marco Börries in 1984) wrote the original components of StarOffice. StarDivision developed the first version of StarWriter for the Zilog Z80 home-computer system, the Amstrad CPC (marketed by Schneider in Germany) under CP/M, and later for the Commodore 64 under Microsoft BASIC, which was later ported to the 8086-based Amstrad PC-1512, running under MS-DOS 3.2. Later, the integration of the other individual programs followed as the development progressed to an Office Suite for DOS, IBM'S OS/2 Warp, and for the Microsoft Windows operating-system. From this time onwards StarDivision marketed its suite under the name StarOffice. excerpted from: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_is_the_inventor_of_open_office_writer#ixzz28EVUww87 thread about gnome-office inclusion in gnome ubuntu: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/47620 -- Juan José Marín Martínez Tlf: 956009437 (Corp. 409437) Móvil: 671596200 (Corp. 696200) Fax: 956009445 (Corp. 409445) Informática. Consejería de Cultura y Deporte. DP Cádiz. Junta de Andalucía Antes de imprimir este correo electrónico piense bien si es necesario hacerlo: El medioambiente es cosa de todos. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
