Re: 12.10 accessibility
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 04:01:42AM EST, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > I wouldn't consider 12.04 to be a release behind 12.10, especially if > you're going to move up to 12.04.1 and 12.04.2 and so on. 12.04 is an > LTS release and will be supported for five years. 12.10 will only be > supported for 18 months. > > I'm not saying you shouldn't want to move up to 12.01. I'm just saying > that these are different releases with different conditions, so I > wouldn't consider one to be behind the other. It depends on what you > plan to do with this install. I'd also like to add that since unity 2D is no longer available from 12.10 and beyond, there is somewhat of a regression in desktop accessibility and usability. There will be efforts made to fix this, but our timeframe is the next LTS. In fact, due to the accessibility team's limited resources, we will only be targeting LTS releases so far as overall desktop usability and polish goes. There are far too few developers working on accessibility, and there is far too much to cover and ensure a deacent experience in a 4 month time frame. I say 4 months, because thats approximately how long we have per cycle for feature development, and rest assured most of the functionality work required for better accessibility is not considered a bug fix. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: 12.10 accessibility
On 13/09/12 12:03, Nolan Darilek wrote: > On 09/13/2012 11:49 AM, Andy B. wrote: > I'm still on 11.04 for a variety of reasons namely dealing with always > losing speech mid-upgrade and no longer having another box to SSH from, > so I'm not terribly familiar with Unity. I know that if I install > 12.04.01, I likely won't upgrade to 12.10 for a while, so if 12.10 is > mostly ironed out then I'd rather install that and deal with rough edges > for a month or so than be a release behind. I wouldn't consider 12.04 to be a release behind 12.10, especially if you're going to move up to 12.04.1 and 12.04.2 and so on. 12.04 is an LTS release and will be supported for five years. 12.10 will only be supported for 18 months. I'm not saying you shouldn't want to move up to 12.01. I'm just saying that these are different releases with different conditions, so I wouldn't consider one to be behind the other. It depends on what you plan to do with this install. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: 12.10 accessibility
On 09/13/2012 11:49 AM, Andy B. wrote: It looks pretty good so far, but the menu in Unity that had the messages apps such as mail/pidgin is no longer accessible. From what I could tell, this is my only problem aside from waiting on a voxin update. Does this mean the entire menubar, including app-specific items? Or just the titles of the top menu items? Or the entire menu, including its items? I'm still on 11.04 for a variety of reasons namely dealing with always losing speech mid-upgrade and no longer having another box to SSH from, so I'm not terribly familiar with Unity. I know that if I install 12.04.01, I likely won't upgrade to 12.10 for a while, so if 12.10 is mostly ironed out then I'd rather install that and deal with rough edges for a month or so than be a release behind. Besides, I don't have most panel items spoken under 11.04, so if it's just the menubar titles that don't speak, then I'm not losing functionality. Thanks. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
12.10 accessibility
Does anyone know the 12.10 accessibility story? I'm about to do a fresh install, and am wondering if I should go with 12.04.01, or with a version that will be released in a bit over a month. I'm particularly concerned about the Unity2D deprecation, and the abandonment of QT in Unity3D in favor of a custom toolkit. Is Canonical using "deprecation" to mean "go away entirely," or "phased out over time?" Is there any accessibility at all in this new toolkit? Thanks. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
