Re: Fwd: Orca on XFCE, using Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"

2007-08-15 Thread Mírian Bruckschen
Hi Alan!

On 8/13/07, alan c wrote:
> Mírian Bruckschen wrote:
> > After installing, however, to make it run under XFCE, are there any
> >  ideas of where I can start? I would be happy to help in this
> > matter, for sure. I'm a kind of long term XFCE user, but a new
> > GNOME/Orca user. :)
>
> I am not a regular orca user, nor a regular XFCE nor even gnome
> user(!) however I regularly install the various desktops on various
> systems  such as initially xfce then add the ubuntu-desktop or the
> other combinations. I then (another story) can choose which session to
> run at login time, say, XFCE or Gnome. What this flags up to me as a
> non expert :-) is that something installed in ubuntu is now available
> to me when I choose to run XFCE, all the 'alien' libraries are now
> installed of course. It will be obvious to many but initially it was
> not to me.
>
> I hope this is useful.

Thank you very much for your answer, but the problem seems to be the
relationship between Orca and XFCE, not Xubuntu or Edubuntu. :(

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Re: Fwd: Orca on XFCE, using Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Mírian Bruckschen wrote:
> Hello Willie,
> 
> On 8/13/07, Willie Walker wrote:
>> Orca is a community project, however, and we encourage others to
>> help us with testing and using Orca on all sorts of platforms.
>> As you gain experience with XFCE, it would be great if you could
>> include your notes off the following page:
>> http://live.gnome.org/Orca/DownloadInstall.
> 
> I followed these instructions to install Orca in my Xubuntu system
> :)
> 
> After installing, however, to make it run under XFCE, are there any
>  ideas of where I can start? I would be happy to help in this
> matter, for sure. I'm a kind of long term XFCE user, but a new
> GNOME/Orca user. :)

I am not a regular orca user, nor a regular XFCE nor even gnome
user(!) however I regularly install the various desktops on various
systems  such as initially xfce then add the ubuntu-desktop or the
other combinations. I then (another story) can choose which session to
run at login time, say, XFCE or Gnome. What this flags up to me as a
non expert :-) is that something installed in ubuntu is now available
to me when I choose to run XFCE, all the 'alien' libraries are now
installed of course. It will be obvious to many but initially it was
not to me.

I hope this is useful.

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Re: Fwd: Orca on XFCE, using Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"

2007-08-13 Thread Willie Walker
Hi Mírian:

Well...I don't know much about about XFCE, such as what version of GNOME
it has, whether it supports the AT-SPI infrastructure or not, etc.  I
think you're doing the right thing by posing this question to a larger
audience, and I hope someone more familiar with XFCE can help.

Will

On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 11:01 -0300, Mírian Bruckschen wrote:
> Hello Willie,
> 
> On 8/13/07, Willie Walker wrote:
> > Orca is a community project, however, and we encourage others to help us
> > with testing and using Orca on all sorts of platforms.  As you gain
> > experience with XFCE, it would be great if you could include your notes
> > off the following page: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/DownloadInstall.
> 
> I followed these instructions to install Orca in my Xubuntu system :)
> 
> After installing, however, to make it run under XFCE, are there any
> ideas of where I can start? I would be happy to help in this matter,
> for sure. I'm a kind of long term XFCE user, but a new GNOME/Orca
> user. :)
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions,
> 


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Re: Fwd: Orca on XFCE, using Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"

2007-08-13 Thread Mírian Bruckschen
Hello Willie,

On 8/13/07, Willie Walker wrote:
> Orca is a community project, however, and we encourage others to help us
> with testing and using Orca on all sorts of platforms.  As you gain
> experience with XFCE, it would be great if you could include your notes
> off the following page: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/DownloadInstall.

I followed these instructions to install Orca in my Xubuntu system :)

After installing, however, to make it run under XFCE, are there any
ideas of where I can start? I would be happy to help in this matter,
for sure. I'm a kind of long term XFCE user, but a new GNOME/Orca
user. :)

Thanks for any suggestions,

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PS: I only asked for "Orca under XFCE" 'cause I thought Orca relied on
GTk, not GNOME only (or mainly GNOME, don't know). But yes, in this
project we'll certainly stick to GNOME, due to everybody's
suggestions. Thank you very much for your answer!

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Re: Fwd: Orca on XFCE, using Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"

2007-08-13 Thread Willie Walker
Hi Mírian:

The primary target platform for Orca is GNOME, which is integrated into
many different operating system distributions.  The Orca team is small
and is unable to do testing/integration coverage of all operating system
distributions out there.  Instead, we primarily use two platforms:
Ubuntu and Open Solaris.  

Orca is a community project, however, and we encourage others to help us
with testing and using Orca on all sorts of platforms.  As you gain
experience with XFCE, it would be great if you could include your notes
off the following page: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/DownloadInstall.

Will
(Orca Project Lead)

On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 08:42 -0300, Mírian Bruckschen wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I sent the message below to orca-list, but perhaps here is the right
> place to post it. And, if Orca won't run in XFCE right now, are there
> any plans for make it work, or is it really unfeasible?
> 
> Thank you very much for any thoughts,
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Mírian Bruckschen
> Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:39 PM
> Subject: Orca on XFCE, using Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm using XFCE 4.4.0 on Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn", and trying to use
> Orca screen reader with them. I'm working on a project with children
> with visual and learning disabilities, and XFCE seemed to us more
> feasible than GNOME due to computational resources issues.
> 
> I have a few questions, guess it's the right list to post them. :)
> Is there anybody there using XFCE with Orca? How well does it work?
> I'm currently using Orca's latest version (from SVN, just got it
> yesterday) with eSpeak pt voice, and even though my Firefox' (still
> 2.0) window titles are correctly spoken, the XFCE menu options aren't.
> Also, Orca's screen and messages aren't read. Is there any
> configuration I'm missing, or this is known not to work under XFCE?
> 
> We won't be using Firefox right now in this project, so I didn't
> bother to install version 3.0 yet, but the menu options and a few GTK
> applications (yet to be developed) are expected to work. Does anybody
> have any ideas on what I'm doing wrong, or what can I do to make it
> work?
> 
> Thanks for your attention,
> 
> --
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> 
> 
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> 


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Fwd: Orca on XFCE, using Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"

2007-08-13 Thread Mírian Bruckschen
Hi all,

I sent the message below to orca-list, but perhaps here is the right
place to post it. And, if Orca won't run in XFCE right now, are there
any plans for make it work, or is it really unfeasible?

Thank you very much for any thoughts,

-- Forwarded message --
From: Mírian Bruckschen
Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: Orca on XFCE, using Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn"

Hi all,

I'm using XFCE 4.4.0 on Xubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn", and trying to use
Orca screen reader with them. I'm working on a project with children
with visual and learning disabilities, and XFCE seemed to us more
feasible than GNOME due to computational resources issues.

I have a few questions, guess it's the right list to post them. :)
Is there anybody there using XFCE with Orca? How well does it work?
I'm currently using Orca's latest version (from SVN, just got it
yesterday) with eSpeak pt voice, and even though my Firefox' (still
2.0) window titles are correctly spoken, the XFCE menu options aren't.
Also, Orca's screen and messages aren't read. Is there any
configuration I'm missing, or this is known not to work under XFCE?

We won't be using Firefox right now in this project, so I didn't
bother to install version 3.0 yet, but the menu options and a few GTK
applications (yet to be developed) are expected to work. Does anybody
have any ideas on what I'm doing wrong, or what can I do to make it
work?

Thanks for your attention,

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