Re: Oneiric accessibility: install, Unity, and Unity 2D

2011-10-18 Thread Piñeiro
On 10/18/2011 12:53 AM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Bill Cox waywardg...@gmail.com wrote:
 A non-starter for me is that Unity doesn't work with Compiz, and I
 require it's inverse video and magnification capabilities.  So, I've
 switched to Ubuntu 2D, which I believe was built using QT.  Compiz
 works great, but Orca doesn't see the Unity desktop.
 Are you just referring to the part where Compiz doesn't zoom the Unity
 dock itself (but does operate on the rest of the screen while using
 Unity), or are you saying you can't use inverse or zoom at all while
 using Unity? I'm a little confused because Unity requires Compiz so
 isn't incompatible with it.

FWIW, Unity3D is a compiz plugin.

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Oneiric accessibility: install, Unity, and Unity 2D

2011-10-17 Thread Bill Cox
I'm in the process of installing Ubuntu Oneiric 11.10.  Here's my
first impressions.  The install needs a bit of work, but  when Orca is
enabled on boot using the magic key sequence, it seems basically
usable.  I had a crash related to Orca I think, though I was poking
around the desktop with my mouse during the install.

Orca still has issues with Unity, though I didn't explore much of it.
The same bug that I saw in Maverick where the caps lock key toggles on
every Orca command is still there.  By itself, I suspect Unity could
be fully accessible by the 12.04 release.  There's a big decision for
Vinux: whether to try and use Gnome 3 in the future, or Unity.  I have
a slight preference for Unity, but I have a small screen and need
large fonts and/or magnification, so Unity's netbook optimized layout
is particularly good for me.  I also suspect we could work easily with
the Ubuntu team to enhance accessibility.

A non-starter for me is that Unity doesn't work with Compiz, and I
require it's inverse video and magnification capabilities.  So, I've
switched to Ubuntu 2D, which I believe was built using QT.  Compiz
works great, but Orca doesn't see the Unity desktop.  So, I'm not sure
what to recommend the Vinux community.  Options on the table, I think,
are Gnome shell 3.0, Unity 2D and the default Unity.  I hear Gnome
shell 3.0 is also incompatible with Compiz.  Anyone have any opinions
on the right way to build Vinux 4.0?

Bill

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Re: Oneiric accessibility: install, Unity, and Unity 2D

2011-10-17 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Bill Cox waywardg...@gmail.com wrote:
 A non-starter for me is that Unity doesn't work with Compiz, and I
 require it's inverse video and magnification capabilities.  So, I've
 switched to Ubuntu 2D, which I believe was built using QT.  Compiz
 works great, but Orca doesn't see the Unity desktop.

Are you just referring to the part where Compiz doesn't zoom the Unity
dock itself (but does operate on the rest of the screen while using
Unity), or are you saying you can't use inverse or zoom at all while
using Unity? I'm a little confused because Unity requires Compiz so
isn't incompatible with it.

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