Hi,

This is off-topic for this list so please respond to me directly.

I am Chris Hofstader. I am profoundly vision impaired and am the Director of 
Access Technology for FSF/GNU. I haven't done much lately for the project but I 
tend to work on communication between and among different groups doing free 
software accessibility.

I just wanted to let you people with vision issues that I am here and that you 
can feel free to use me as a resource. If I don't know an answer, I do know 
where to find one that is usually mostly correct.

So, feel free to write or call me as you see fit.

Happy Hacking,
cdh

On Dec 10, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Robert Cole wrote:

> Hello, Eric.
> 
> I'm sorry for my delay in replying.
> 
> I am sorry to hear about your sight loss. I barely have any vision...just 
> enough to use a screen magnifier when my face is an inch or less away from 
> the screen. I am learning to use Orca, and I want to learn to use Speakup in 
> the console as I do not know if my vision will last, so I am halfway 
> dependent on screen readers at this point.
> 
> I am also a recipient of VR services here in California, and I am pursuing a 
> career in the IT industry.
> 
> I would say that I have found Ubuntu 11.10 to be pretty accessible. I am 
> really excited about Ubuntu 12.04 as I am hoping for a lot of improved 
> accessibility features. I can say the same for GNOME, too. I fell in love 
> with that desktop when I first started using Ubuntu, and I am really looking 
> forward to seeing accessibility improvements in GNOME 3.
> 
> I'll wrap this up. I just did not want to leave your reply without a response.
> 
> I hope that all is well, and (although I am no expert) if I can be of any 
> help with anything, please feel free to write me off-list.
> 
> On 12/08/2011 12:59 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> thanks for the suggestion of some input.
>> 
>> I won't make this a testimonyl as there are still problems with gnome 3.
>> 
>> the older gnome 2.x works well with orca and that is still used in 
>> vinuxproject.org. any attempt for me to use gnome 3 has resulted in 
>> inconsistent results (with the end result that some of the screen elements 
>> are invisible to me).
>> 
>> as of this writing, I am using vinux 3.01 (based on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS) as 
>> that is the most reliable (stable) version. making such radical changes to 
>> gnome without considering that may break accessibility was a poor move on 
>> the part of the gnome project devs.  I know that there is a new project 
>> called unity desktop (that is supposed to look a lot like the OS X cocoa 
>> interface), but it is so new that it doesn't entirely work with orca (which 
>> I depend on totally as I am totally blind).
>> 
>> anyway, all that being said, I still would prefer using either OS X (apple 
>> with voiceover) or ORCA (in vinux) more than I would any version of windows 
>> (I still use that on occasion with NVDA). unfortunately, I don't have the 
>> income necessary to upgrade my hardware to some windows 7 compliance nor 
>> would I have any spare income for the $1,000+ pricetag for windows 
>> accessibility (first year SMA + initial cost of JAWS for $850).
>> 
>> up until this last year, I was able to function as a system administrator 
>> with low vision. 15 months ago I finally lost all eyesight and have had to 
>> request VR services in order to get retrained to better operate in an IT 
>> environment. so far, I am still waiting for the state of Arizona to get on 
>> with it.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Robert Cole wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, Michael, all.
>>> 
>>> As concerning this topic, it was suggested to me on the gnome-accessibility 
>>> mailing list that a Testimonials page would be beneficial in allowing users 
>>> to share their stories about how assistive technologies such as Orca as 
>>> well as other applications have improved their lives and have made them 
>>> more productive in a Linux environment as a way to promote open source 
>>> technologies and free desktops.
>>> 
>>> I have begun to develop a testimonials page [1], and I would also like to 
>>> request the aid of other users in providing (freely) their experiences with 
>>> these technologies.
>>> 
>>> I want to add that I am not a paid professional of any sort. I am simply a 
>>> visually impaired user who wants to see accessibility-related technologies 
>>> flourish in an open source environment. I was a Windows user until 2007 
>>> when I completely switched to Linux. I could not afford the prices of 
>>> commercially available assistive technologies, nor could I afford to pay 
>>> for upgrades for these technologies. I was running an updated Windows 
>>> system with old and outdated assistive technology software, which made 
>>> things difficult. I, to this day, still am having difficulty with finding 
>>> work due to my visual disability, but I use my computer system to learn new 
>>> skills and to keep myself informed (as I am a Computer Information Systems 
>>> student, due to graduate after this semester). I can honestly say that I 
>>> would have not been able to come this far if not for open source 
>>> technologies. Though I am sure that someone could probably do a much better 
>>> job on the page listed in the footnote of this message, this is (as best as 
>>> I am able to do it) my small contribution to the big picture.
>>> 
>>> If anyone has a brief story or testimonial which you would like added to 
>>> the page, please feel free to write to me off-list (or on-list if it is 
>>> alright to do so). It was suggested that users provide a picture of 
>>> themselves along with their testimonials, but this is not absolutely 
>>> mandatory.
>>> 
>>> Orca and screen magnification are absolutely vital to me as a blind user. 
>>> Without these technologies available, I would be at a tremendous loss, and 
>>> I definitely would not be able to pursue a career in the field which I love 
>>> so much--computer science/IT.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any input, and thanks for posting this here, Michael.
>>> 
>>> [1] Accessibility Testimonials: 
>>> http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Testimonials
>>> 
>>> On 12/07/2011 04:13 PM, Michael Hall wrote:
>>>> Forwarding this on to the Ubuntu accessibility team, and they might have
>>>> some good real-life stories to share as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Hall
>>>> mhall...@ubuntu.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/06/2011 12:50 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Dave Neary<dne...@gnome.org
>>>>> <mailto:dne...@gnome.org>>   wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>     Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made
>>>>>     measurably better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases
>>>>>     work wonders.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree with Dave that a quote or a case study would make it more real.
>>>>> People are much more willing to donate to save a particular kid ("Joey")
>>>>> who is sick than they are to donate to an organization that helps
>>>>> vaccinate 1000s of kids.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, I think we should end with a call to action. What do we want them
>>>>> to do? ex: "Donate $25 now and help us reach another person."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stormy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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