Re: I have a real show stopper here

2013-10-01 Thread José Vilmar Estácio de Souza

Hi, what version of ubuntu?
I think that in ubuntu 13.10, the shortcut to start orca is somethin 
like super+s, super+ctrl+s or super+alt+s, I am not sure exactly the 
correct combination.



On 10/01/2013 11:03 AM, eric oyen wrote:

Hello everyone.

I have a real show stopper here. I can't seem to get orca to start up from the 
installer dvd. I tried control-s right at boot and nothing. the documentation 
doesn't seem to suggest any other way to do this.

is there another way?

I really would like to have an operational linux machine here.

I have tried Vinux, but there isn't a lot of available software other than a 
few paltry apps and the gnome desktop.

I need this working.

HELP!

eric




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Re: I have a real show stopper here

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Bell
it is ctrl+S after the sound of the drums. If you don't hear the drums 
then it is possible that there is an issue with your audio and orca has 
cheerfully started and is silently talking.
The installer is basically broken at the moment because there are 7 
progress bars at the bottom of the screen which are visually very very 
short because they are being used to be coloured dots.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154345

I will poke some people about that bug, low seems a bit inappropriate 
given how unuseable it makes the installer


Alan.

On 01/10/13 15:03, eric oyen wrote:

Hello everyone.

I have a real show stopper here. I can't seem to get orca to start up from the 
installer dvd. I tried control-s right at boot and nothing. the documentation 
doesn't seem to suggest any other way to do this.

is there another way?

I really would like to have an operational linux machine here.

I have tried Vinux, but there isn't a lot of available software other than a 
few paltry apps and the gnome desktop.

I need this working.

HELP!

eric





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Re: I have a real show stopper here

2013-10-01 Thread Burt Henry





All software that can be installed on Ubuntu can be installed on Vinux.
The softwarecenter is accessible, or easier for many of us is using 
apt-get to install from the command line, i.e.

sudo apt-get install vnstat mutt pcmanfm
just to give a few suggestions of programs I always put on any Linux 
system, OK, if it's cli-only I won't have pcmanfm, but anyway...
Write me off list if you need suggestions for programs for a given task. 
You may also wish to join the Vinux list for more suggestions.



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it is ctrl+S after the sound of the drums. If you don't hear the drums then it 
is possible that there is an issue with your
audio and orca has cheerfully started and is silently talking.
The installer is basically broken at the moment because there are 7 progress 
bars at the bottom of the screen which are
visually very very short because they are being used to be coloured dots.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154345

I will poke some people about that bug, low seems a bit inappropriate given 
how unuseable it makes the installer

Alan.

On 01/10/13 15:03, eric oyen wrote:

Hello everyone.

I have a real show stopper here. I can't seem to get orca to start up from the 
installer dvd. I tried control-s right at boo
t and nothing. the documentation doesn't seem to suggest any other way to do 
this.

is there another way?

I really would like to have an operational linux machine here.

I have tried Vinux, but there isn't a lot of available software other than a 
few paltry apps and the gnome desktop.

I need this working.

HELP!

eric




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Re: I have a real show stopper here

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
What do you mean when you say vinux only has a few poultry applications? 
If you mean at install time, the DVD version will have more applications 
installed than the CD version. Otherwise, you can use the Software 
Center to pretty much install anything you want, the same applications 
you can install on Ubuntu in fact.


Remember too that Vinux uses Unity, so if you're just looking at the 
Launcher, you're only seeing a dozen of the most commonly used 
applications on your system. You can use the Dash to get to the other 
applications installed on your system and even install more 
applications. Use alt+f2 to bring up the Dash. The vinux wiki has 
articles on how to use the Dash and get around the Unity desktop in general.


On 10/01/2013 09:03 AM, eric oyen wrote:

Hello everyone.

I have a real show stopper here. I can't seem to get orca to start up from the 
installer dvd. I tried control-s right at boot and nothing. the documentation 
doesn't seem to suggest any other way to do this.

is there another way?

I really would like to have an operational linux machine here.

I have tried Vinux, but there isn't a lot of available software other than a 
few paltry apps and the gnome desktop.

I need this working.

HELP!

eric




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Re: I have a real show stopper here

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain

What apt.sources file are you talking about?

The /etc/apt/sources.list file as well as the /etc/apt/sources.list.d 
directory contain everything Ubuntu contains plus a few Vinux specific 
repositories.


The Software Center doesn't segfault on my Vinux 4 systems.

On 10/01/2013 01:54 PM, Burt Henry wrote:





All earlier versions are based on no longer supported versions of
Ubuntu, s only a few vinux-specific packages will be updatable or
installable. The exception is some server stuff that will still be
supported in vinux3.0.x.
Some repos that have server related packages may still be active on

vinux3.0.x, but for for full supprt you need Vinux \4.0 that is based on
precise with upgraded packages in some cases and a 3.5 kernel. Much
newer Orca and accessibility stack is coming.




On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 08:32:13AM -0700, eric oyen wrote:

well, given my experience of late, there needs to be a few changes.
The default install of vinux doesn't appear to have much in the
apt.sources file. also, I tried to enter some sources in the software
center dialog only to have it freeze me out before I could press OK
(segfaulted). I may be a version or 2 behind on that distribution as
well.

anyway, I wanted to try Ubuntu for other reasons.

-eric

On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Burt Henry wrote:






All software that can be installed on Ubuntu can be installed on Vinux.
The softwarecenter is accessible, or easier for many of us is using
apt-get to install from the command line, i.e.
sudo apt-get install vnstat mutt pcmanfm
just to give a few suggestions of programs I always put on any Linux
system, OK, if it's cli-only I won't have pcmanfm, but anyway...
Write me off list if you need suggestions for programs for a given
task. You may also wish to join the Vinux list for more suggestions.


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it is ctrl+S after the sound of the drums. If you don't hear the
drums then it is possible that there is an issue with your
audio and orca has cheerfully started and is silently talking.
The installer is basically broken at the moment because there are 7
progress bars at the bottom of the screen which are
visually very very short because they are being used to be coloured
dots.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154345
I will poke some people about that bug, low seems a bit
inappropriate given how unuseable it makes the installer
Alan.
On 01/10/13 15:03, eric oyen wrote:
Hello everyone.
I have a real show stopper here. I can't seem to get orca to start
up from the installer dvd. I tried control-s right at boo
t and nothing. the documentation doesn't seem to suggest any other
way to do this.
is there another way?
I really would like to have an operational linux machine here.
I have tried Vinux, but there isn't a lot of available software
other than a few paltry apps and the gnome desktop.
I need this working.
HELP!
eric

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Re: I have a real show stopper here

2013-10-01 Thread Jude DaShiell
first type alt-f2 then type orca then hit enter.
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013, eric 
oyen wrote:

 Hello everyone.
 
 I have a real show stopper here. I can't seem to get orca to start up from 
 the installer dvd. I tried control-s right at boot and nothing. the 
 documentation doesn't seem to suggest any other way to do this.
 
 is there another way?
 
 I really would like to have an operational linux machine here.
 
 I have tried Vinux, but there isn't a lot of available software other than a 
 few paltry apps and the gnome desktop.
 
 I need this working.
 
 HELP!
 
 eric
 
 
 

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