Re: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 43, Issue 23

2009-07-01 Thread Richard Horobin
I support Petra Ritter's suggestion of beeping when ready.  A person who's
interested in accessibility issues will probably have a sound-producing
component attached.  If the beep helps, then that's a help, isn't it?

Richard Horobin.
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Re: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 43, Issue 23

2009-07-01 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi.  Your asumption is wrong.  The problem of systems not having internal 
speakers any more is a change
in main stream production.  In the past, a computer case included an internal 
speaker.  That is no longer true.  That fact
was never advertised, so there isn't any way to know in advance if a new system 
will have a speaker or not.  Usually, the answer is no.
Installing one will require sighted help since you will need to know where to 
plug it into the mother board.  Since you need sighted help,
why not just let them read your screen for a few seconds to let you get 
accessibility started.  This is more likely since
almost anyone with sight can read a screen, but it takes some knowledge to know 
where to plug a speaker on a circuit board.

  Kenny
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 06:30:01PM +1000, Richard Horobin wrote:
 I support Petra Ritter's suggestion of beeping when ready.  A person who's
 interested in accessibility issues will probably have a sound-producing
 component attached.  If the beep helps, then that's a help, isn't it?
 
 Richard Horobin.

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Re: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 43, Issue 23

2009-07-01 Thread Hugh Sasse


On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Kenny Hitt wrote:

 Hi.  Your asumption is wrong.  The problem of systems not having internal 
 speakers any more is a change
 in main stream production.  In the past, a computer case included an internal 
 speaker.  That is no longer true.  That fact
 was never advertised, so there isn't any way to know in advance if a new 
 system will have a speaker or not.  Usually, the answer is no.
 Installing one will require sighted help since you will need to know where to 
 plug it into the mother board.  Since you need sighted help,
 why not just let them read your screen for a few seconds to let you get 
 accessibility started.  This is more likely since

Because they will only have to setup your system to use the
(external?) speakers as the default once, rather than evey time you
want accessibility started?

 almost anyone with sight can read a screen, but it takes some knowledge to 
 know where to plug a speaker on a circuit board.
 
   Kenny

Hugh
 On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 06:30:01PM +1000, Richard Horobin wrote:
  I support Petra Ritter's suggestion of beeping when ready.  A person who's
  interested in accessibility issues will probably have a sound-producing
  component attached.  If the beep helps, then that's a help, isn't it?
  
  Richard Horobin.
 
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