Re: [orca-list] What happened with Orca in Oneiric
Uncheck the box that says show orca window and you should be good to go along with all other preferences you set. The orca window really is properly the orca setup dialog. On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Guy Schlosser wrote: OK, now the system that was running so beautifully after the upgrade is now in a setup loop. Every time I boot up, after doing nothing but shutting it down after writing this early morning's E-mail, I press alt+f2, type orca and press enter, I get Welcome to orca setup. Then I have to play 20 questions all over again. Any ideas? What happened between shutting the system down, and restarting eight hours later? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy On 9/25/2011 3:18 AM, Guy Schlosser wrote: I just finished installing Oneiric on my laptop as an upgrade from a fresh Natty. I am happy to report that all is working with Orca and other applications. I'm observing the same as previously reported, pressing alt+f1 yields nothing, and the alt+f2 box (i.e. dash) also is not accessible. This could be largely due to the bug that currently has a fix committed though, so I am looking forward to that fix being released, for hopeful launcher accessibility. I would also love to test Alejandro's proposed PPA for dash and quicklist accessibility. This brings me to my next question. How do I narrow down what is missing from my other desktop system and preventing accessibility? For example, how do I know if accessibility modules are loaded, and proper key is set to correct value? I installed all updates on that system as well, and still hear nothing read in any application, including Orca's own preferences dialogue. Do I just need to reformat and fresh install with live CD, since it and my laptop are working beautifully? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and off to bed, Guy P.S. This E-mail was written concerning Unity 3d. I have not tried Unity 2d on Laptop yet. ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp Jude jdash...@shellworld.net I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side. ~ Bill Hicks -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] What happened with Orca in Oneiric
Hey there Jude and thanks for the tip. That's actually what I did that caused the whole loop I think. The orca window was getting in the way, so I went into preferences, and unchecked the box. All was good for the rest of the session until I shutdown for the night. When I powered up eight hours later, and every other time I started up my laptop, I got welcome to orca setup., as if orca is trying to say, you don't want to show my window, screw you. I would love to go back in and re-check it, but I can't get past the orca setup 20 questions. I did notice that Orca 3.2 was released yesterday, so maybe I'll try to update and see if I can break the setup barrior. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and good job to everyone, Guy On 09/27/2011 12:55 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Uncheck the box that says show orca window and you should be good to go along with all other preferences you set. The orca window really is properly the orca setup dialog. On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Guy Schlosser wrote: OK, now the system that was running so beautifully after the upgrade is now in a setup loop. Every time I boot up, after doing nothing but shutting it down after writing this early morning's E-mail, I press alt+f2, type orca and press enter, I get Welcome to orca setup. Then I have to play 20 questions all over again. Any ideas? What happened between shutting the system down, and restarting eight hours later? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy On 9/25/2011 3:18 AM, Guy Schlosser wrote: I just finished installing Oneiric on my laptop as an upgrade from a fresh Natty. I am happy to report that all is working with Orca and other applications. I'm observing the same as previously reported, pressing alt+f1 yields nothing, and the alt+f2 box (i.e. dash) also is not accessible. This could be largely due to the bug that currently has a fix committed though, so I am looking forward to that fix being released, for hopeful launcher accessibility. I would also love to test Alejandro's proposed PPA for dash and quicklist accessibility. This brings me to my next question. How do I narrow down what is missing from my other desktop system and preventing accessibility? For example, how do I know if accessibility modules are loaded, and proper key is set to correct value? I installed all updates on that system as well, and still hear nothing read in any application, including Orca's own preferences dialogue. Do I just need to reformat and fresh install with live CD, since it and my laptop are working beautifully? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and off to bed, Guy P.S. This E-mail was written concerning Unity 3d. I have not tried Unity 2d on Laptop yet. ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp Judejdash...@shellworld.net I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side. ~ Bill Hicks -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: What happened with Orca in Oneiric
I just finished installing Oneiric on my laptop as an upgrade from a fresh Natty. I am happy to report that all is working with Orca and other applications. I'm observing the same as previously reported, pressing alt+f1 yields nothing, and the alt+f2 box (i.e. dash) also is not accessible. This could be largely due to the bug that currently has a fix committed though, so I am looking forward to that fix being released, for hopeful launcher accessibility. I would also love to test Alejandro's proposed PPA for dash and quicklist accessibility. This brings me to my next question. How do I narrow down what is missing from my other desktop system and preventing accessibility? For example, how do I know if accessibility modules are loaded, and proper key is set to correct value? I installed all updates on that system as well, and still hear nothing read in any application, including Orca's own preferences dialogue. Do I just need to reformat and fresh install with live CD, since it and my laptop are working beautifully? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and off to bed, Guy P.S. This E-mail was written concerning Unity 3d. I have not tried Unity 2d on Laptop yet. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: What happened with Orca in Oneiric
OK, now the system that was running so beautifully after the upgrade is now in a setup loop. Every time I boot up, after doing nothing but shutting it down after writing this early morning's E-mail, I press alt+f2, type orca and press enter, I get Welcome to orca setup. Then I have to play 20 questions all over again. Any ideas? What happened between shutting the system down, and restarting eight hours later? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy On 9/25/2011 3:18 AM, Guy Schlosser wrote: I just finished installing Oneiric on my laptop as an upgrade from a fresh Natty. I am happy to report that all is working with Orca and other applications. I'm observing the same as previously reported, pressing alt+f1 yields nothing, and the alt+f2 box (i.e. dash) also is not accessible. This could be largely due to the bug that currently has a fix committed though, so I am looking forward to that fix being released, for hopeful launcher accessibility. I would also love to test Alejandro's proposed PPA for dash and quicklist accessibility. This brings me to my next question. How do I narrow down what is missing from my other desktop system and preventing accessibility? For example, how do I know if accessibility modules are loaded, and proper key is set to correct value? I installed all updates on that system as well, and still hear nothing read in any application, including Orca's own preferences dialogue. Do I just need to reformat and fresh install with live CD, since it and my laptop are working beautifully? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and off to bed, Guy P.S. This E-mail was written concerning Unity 3d. I have not tried Unity 2d on Laptop yet. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: What happened with Orca in Oneiric
Hy, Sorry the wrong alarm, possible my installed system are corrupted. Beta2 works fine, I verifyed. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: What happened with Orca in Oneiric
Yes, I have not been patient and i have tried to install Yesterdays daily build and i did not able to hear Orca after installation and when triing to run Orca from one of The virtual consoles, ihave got error message related to The fact, that some environment variable not set. But in live mode everythink worked fine, installer also, there was only complex issue for solving, that even when installation have been finished and installer did not do nothink complex, tasks which are comsuming extra of system resources, Espeak have spoken to me very cutterefed, it looks to me, that some threads of installers are blocking Pulseaudio or other subprocess of speech-dispatcher. Because of complexity of programmers relation ships between Python application Ubiquity and Orca, which is also written in Python, It seems to me, that The best would be to add new simple code to The Python Ubiquity installer, which will be able to generate some beep when every 1 procento will be increase in The installers proggress bar, and that it will be very safe to block at-spi calls by Orca while installing The system. Because manipulation with Orca flat rewieving algorithms while installing have been caused me The crash of installer even in previous official release of Ubuntu, i did not used Vinux remaster. Because it is very complex to create other modiffication of Espeak, which would be compatible with Gnomespeech library, so Ubuntu would contain Two Espeak. One would be nonvisible, compatible with Gnomespeech services, i mean by The word invisible, that this release of Espeak would be totally invisible by The debian packaging management system and second Espeak would be The version specially modified to be compatible with speech-dispatcher and Pulseaudio. I will experiment with Installer of previous release when Gnomespeech services will be used instead of speech-dispatcher. But bšefore constructing may be nonsenses, i will try The Beta2 build, which is now awailable. I will also Try to play with The Gnopernicus source code while using older Ubuntu release, it would be interesting to repair The bug which is causing Gnopernicus crash while Espeak is speaking and user is pressing next key, which is causing Gnopernicus to send other string to The Gnomespeech services. I AM afraid, that The future of The solution, which will prevent screen readers from randomly crashing while using complex Python applications will be The new Screen reader written completely in C language. This is only my phylosophical thinkink, i love Orca and i do not have nothink apposite it's ammazing algorithms, but i AM only triing to find The solution. Thank You very much, MR Yelavich for Yours complex programmers work related to The accessibility with Orca. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
What happened with Orca in Oneiric
Hy, Yesterday early afternoon I installed all updates my testing Oneiric system from archive.ubuntu.com with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade command. After upgrade installation when I try launch Orca with orca --replace command, I see following error in terminal: root@hammera-laptop:/# orca --replace /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gobject/constants.py:24: Warning: g_boxed_type_register_static: assertion `g_type_from_name (name) == 0' failed import gobject._gobject /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:40: Warning: specified class size for type `PyGtkGenericCellRenderer' is smaller than the parent type's `GtkCellRenderer' class size from gtk import _gtk /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:40: Warning: g_type_get_qdata: assertion `node != NULL' failed from gtk import _gtk Segmentation fault root@hammera-laptop:/# Anybody experienced similar problem? Unfortunately I unable to send this problem with apport or apport-cli application, because no pending crash reports. Current daily live CD chroot filesystem is producing similar issues. Now I try downloading the prewious daily live CD. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
