Re: orca and firefox
Is this on voxin side or speech dispatcher communication with voxin? I use emacspeak with voxin and got no errors... I suspect that this is coming from speech dispatcher. Any idea if this bug is tracked somewhere? On 19/08/2015 19:04, Rob Whyte wrote: Hi, yes you will find the crashes are due to Voxin. sudo killall -9 speech-dispatcher will get you along your way quickly. Thanks Rob On 20/08/15 06:07, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi. Version 0.8.3 is the current version. I suspect that this problem is related to voxin, although I can not confirm. Can you try to use espeak instead voxin as a test? On 08/19/2015 04:45 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Could you guys confirm the version of speech dispatcher that you are using? Orca stoped talking to me twice in a period of less than a hour and just returned when I killed speech dispatcher and restarted everything. I assume that this is speech dispatcher's fault, as I had the same problem with chromevox when running it with speech dispatcher. On 19/08/2015 16:06, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with instructions on how to build orca from git. On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
+1 This is awesome, thank you. On 19/08/2015 19:52, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 03:14:10AM AEST, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? You can install Orca 3.16.2 for 14.04 from the Ubuntu Accessibility Dev PPA, ppa:ubuntu-accessibility-dev/ppa. To add it and update, do the following: * In a terminal, run sudo apt-add-repository ppa:accessibility-dev/ppa * sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade And you should then get latest stable Orca. This will likely be updated once Orca 3.18 comes out. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
orca and firefox
Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
16.2 or 16.3 I think it is, but you can build the latest development version if you want to test even newer stuff. There are instructions on the orca website isit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Once in a while something important does not work well for a few hours or even a day or two, but I've never had to downgrade to an older build for the things I do using orca from git master in well over a year. That being said, as far as your firefox experience at the moment if you have orca 16 you should be doing fine, and I certainly agree that there is a huge difference in orca with firefox comparing current versions with those from a year and a half ago. Enjoy -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Lucas Radaelli wrote: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 02:14:10PM -0300 Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with instructions on how to build orca from git. On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. -- José Vilmar Estácio de Souza -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
Could you guys confirm the version of speech dispatcher that you are using? Orca stoped talking to me twice in a period of less than a hour and just returned when I killed speech dispatcher and restarted everything. I assume that this is speech dispatcher's fault, as I had the same problem with chromevox when running it with speech dispatcher. On 19/08/2015 16:06, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with instructions on how to build orca from git. On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
yes, it will certainly build You might need to get some at-spi packages from an extra repo, let me check on something and I'll post back. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 04:06:31PM -0300 Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with instructions on how to build orca from git. On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. -- José Vilmar Estácio de Souza -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
Hi. Version 0.8.3 is the current version. I suspect that this problem is related to voxin, although I can not confirm. Can you try to use espeak instead voxin as a test? On 08/19/2015 04:45 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Could you guys confirm the version of speech dispatcher that you are using? Orca stoped talking to me twice in a period of less than a hour and just returned when I killed speech dispatcher and restarted everything. I assume that this is speech dispatcher's fault, as I had the same problem with chromevox when running it with speech dispatcher. On 19/08/2015 16:06, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with instructions on how to build orca from git. On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. -- José Vilmar Estácio de Souza -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Trusty and Orca Users! I'm using orca 3.16 in Trisquel, a derivative of Ubuntu 14.04, though I did not build it; rather, I added the Accessibility Devel ppa to my system, and the latest access stack (including orca) got installed on system upgrade. Having done this, I may be able to build from git. to add repository: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:accessibility-devel then: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade HTH, Dave On 08/19/2015 03:06 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV1NhVAAoJEPDWzxLwi2tABToH/2W7AzJw+RDn/bgmFPfsQMhQ aNjz4HMDqq30zlYRkVsNy4v9J6Ry+jqG8j6DG/R2xhRgVYW1DW256DxveAwulLWn de1f6JWdY5OkQHhZCf/g0nbt981Ia+GWf0D5zbWwPBAfpPQZVAS0/xGZ4aBkXNio Hi+kshpiU5MLLOPXQTCjxKQ8DJg55iVisOcYlJ8eAqfr65icJk+lBI7PofczxtZu oypDstSiQi/7ZYVpMIIyjkuJcnS3TEuXXUotPeQzaCGQ2b2G82Tbuih5G/6uf5fS 9xkCDXvRfXHJHlecL6MRY2v17nOHH6ZaOBj7Czy/kr7DXndeIF6gPxaoD2si1bs= =mTul -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
Wow, Who maintains this ppa for accessibility devel? happy hacking. Krishnakant. On Thursday 20 August 2015 12:56 AM, Dave Hunt wrote: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:accessibility-devel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm using orca 3.16 in Trisquel, a derivative of Ubuntu 14.04, though I did not build it; rather, I added the Accessibility Devel ppa to my system, and the latest access stack (including orca) got installed on system upgrade. Having done this, I may be able to build from git. to add repository: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:accessibility-devel then: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade HTH, Dave On 08/19/2015 03:06 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV1NVlAAoJEPDWzxLwi2tA6R8H/iP81cl+nTMlbDSkkRYaIurB aS12ZKbEuVRgAaBVxGVbe9UItrFYLyPp+5sSBj3rxP1uMLFGO7eWetTrDBjpDx5/ etz+SDrG9rch//neuDIcy66lj6HaKEYKzWq/n+Kg8PwahQyDfJnoeBHPngoZ2YdR jYR35OosttxK5y3wLcfCFNMnYq4wMQzHdVlHRBwvjK0ftTcWPIsWKX91c6DHPhnY JF/9aIXgh8URpc2RDLG/ZkRUZL/z7Rl/1cGhuQLGg4eFOq3+qD1c+2UeHNjlyZZQ eod0OktN/JH++GN1AB0oU3yF/DlMBbtWgimJj230JyOjW5MknuVz4YbxpWHsFK4= =RyC3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
hi Any orca version after ... I believe 3.12 is the version that got the gigantic firefox improvements, should work fine. I'd of course recommend you run 3.16.3 which I believe is the latest, but I'm not sure how easy this is to do in ubuntu. There's an accessibility PPA luke, rob and others maintain that has the latest accessibility packages, at-spi, orca, etc but I'm not sure of the command to install it. Thanks Kendell clark On 08/19/2015 12:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
Yeah, thanks for this important resource Luke. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Luke Yelavich wrote: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 08:54:35AM +1000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 07:58:19AM AEST, kk wrote: Wow, Who maintains this ppa for accessibility devel? I do. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 03:14:10AM AEST, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? You can install Orca 3.16.2 for 14.04 from the Ubuntu Accessibility Dev PPA, ppa:ubuntu-accessibility-dev/ppa. To add it and update, do the following: * In a terminal, run sudo apt-add-repository ppa:accessibility-dev/ppa * sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade And you should then get latest stable Orca. This will likely be updated once Orca 3.18 comes out. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 07:58:19AM AEST, kk wrote: Wow, Who maintains this ppa for accessibility devel? I do. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
Mine is 3.17.3 pre Meaning I have a much later version, built from git source. Happy hacking. Krishnakant. On Thursday 20 August 2015 12:39 AM, B. Henry wrote: yes, it will certainly build You might need to get some at-spi packages from an extra repo, let me check on something and I'll post back. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
Hi, yes you will find the crashes are due to Voxin. sudo killall -9 speech-dispatcher will get you along your way quickly. Thanks Rob On 20/08/15 06:07, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi. Version 0.8.3 is the current version. I suspect that this problem is related to voxin, although I can not confirm. Can you try to use espeak instead voxin as a test? On 08/19/2015 04:45 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Could you guys confirm the version of speech dispatcher that you are using? Orca stoped talking to me twice in a period of less than a hour and just returned when I killed speech dispatcher and restarted everything. I assume that this is speech dispatcher's fault, as I had the same problem with chromevox when running it with speech dispatcher. On 19/08/2015 16:06, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with instructions on how to build orca from git. On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] Firefox patch, testing and further work
Hy Jose, Of course Yes, this is easy. You do following command if the vinux/vinux-lucid repository is not containing with your Lucid system: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vinux/vinux-lucid After this, run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade command. With PPA repositoryes the build farm always maked an i386 and a 64bit build with uploaded packages if the debian/control file the architecture field is any. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] Firefox patch, testing and further work
Thanks. As I said in my message, a dumb question HEHEHE. It is installed. As a first observation, if I press h key and the tab key, the link focused is a link before the header. I am not sure if it happens in all pages but can be reproduced at http://schuchert.wikispaces.com/JPA+Tutorial+1+-+Getting+Started On 04/04/2010 10:41 AM, Hammer Attila wrote: Hy Jose, Of course Yes, this is easy. You do following command if the vinux/vinux-lucid repository is not containing with your Lucid system: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vinux/vinux-lucid After this, run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade command. With PPA repositoryes the build farm always maked an i386 and a 64bit build with uploaded packages if the debian/control file the architecture field is any. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
