Re: question about this list

2009-12-16 Thread Willie Walker
No problem Pia - thanks for the explanation.

I'm curious if speech-dispatcher may be of interest to you.  Since 
you're talking about putting things in the kernel, however, I suspect it 
might be too user level for you.  The reason I ask, however, is that 
we're trying to supplant gnome-speech with speech-dispatcher and we can 
use help shoring up the code.

Will

Pia wrote:
> Hi again Willie,  I just wanted to mention that I would not mind checking 
> out Orca and the Gnome accessibility project either.  I greatly appreciate 
> the work you and Sun have done on it.  Your work is a great asset to the 
> blind community.  I just wanted to clarify this because my last email 
> sounded frustrated, but that frustration is at Ubuntu and certainly not 
> Gnome or Orca.  Your team has been able to do so much more than anyone 
> else has ever done for the blind user on the Linux desktop and I thank 
> you!  I will need to install a different distro however, if I want to help 
> out your project, because the pulse audio in Ubuntu miserably breaks 
> accessibility in Gnome.
> 
> Warm Regards,
> 
> Pia
> 
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Willie Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pia:
>>
>> Do you want to work on Ubuntu specifically or GNOME?  If you want to work on 
>> GNOME, please feel free to join 
>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
>>
>> Help is greatly needed and would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Will
>> GNOME a11y lead
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Pia wrote:
>>
>>> I read the description of this list and it appeared to be a mailing list
>>> for the accessibility development team, but some questions made me think
>>> it looked more like a users list.  Will someone straighten me out?  I am
>>> looking for the development list because I would like to help if it is
>>> wanted, to get a speakup binary package made for Ubuntu.  Some of us use
>>> the server and so don't care about a GUI and would like to see that "just
>>> work" too.  I would be willing to contribute to making that happen if
>>> there is a chance to do so, but no one has answered me.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Pia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
>>
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Re: question about this list

2009-12-15 Thread Pia
Hi again Willie,  I just wanted to mention that I would not mind checking 
out Orca and the Gnome accessibility project either.  I greatly appreciate 
the work you and Sun have done on it.  Your work is a great asset to the 
blind community.  I just wanted to clarify this because my last email 
sounded frustrated, but that frustration is at Ubuntu and certainly not 
Gnome or Orca.  Your team has been able to do so much more than anyone 
else has ever done for the blind user on the Linux desktop and I thank 
you!  I will need to install a different distro however, if I want to help 
out your project, because the pulse audio in Ubuntu miserably breaks 
accessibility in Gnome.

Warm Regards,

Pia

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Willie Walker wrote:

> Hi Pia:
>
> Do you want to work on Ubuntu specifically or GNOME?  If you want to work on 
> GNOME, please feel free to join 
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
>
> Help is greatly needed and would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Will
> GNOME a11y lead
>
> On Dec 13, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Pia wrote:
>
>> I read the description of this list and it appeared to be a mailing list
>> for the accessibility development team, but some questions made me think
>> it looked more like a users list.  Will someone straighten me out?  I am
>> looking for the development list because I would like to help if it is
>> wanted, to get a speakup binary package made for Ubuntu.  Some of us use
>> the server and so don't care about a GUI and would like to see that "just
>> work" too.  I would be willing to contribute to making that happen if
>> there is a chance to do so, but no one has answered me.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Pia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list
>> Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
>
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Re: question about this list

2009-12-15 Thread Pia
Greetings Willie,

Actually, my problem is I want non-graphical servers to be able to 
talk too.  There is currently a speakup patch to do that in the Ubuntu 
repository called speakup-source speakup-tools speakup-doc and espeakup 
The only problem is that no one has taken the time to patch the kernel 
with that patch and make sure it runs.  It is in the repository, but takes 
hacking by the end user / sys admin to get it to work.  What I would like 
is to help or to have the developers make a speakup kernel.  Seeing as how 
it is already part of Ubuntu, I don't see why this would be so difficult. 
Not everyone who is blind uses the GUI and to tell you the truth, the 
command line talks way better than Gnome ever has with Orca.  So, what I 
would like to see and am saying I would like to help with if needed, is to 
get a binary package of a speakup enabled kernel added to Ubuntu.  Since 
the source patch is already part of the distro, I do not understand why 
the accessibility development team has not already done this.  Many blind 
people, myself included, have chosen careers in system administration 
because it is something we can do well.  Sys Admins certainly do not want 
Gnome or any GUI on their mission critical server.  So, this would be a 
great service to the blind community.

Thanks and Kind Regards,

Pia

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Willie Walker wrote:

> Hi Pia:
>
> Do you want to work on Ubuntu specifically or GNOME?  If you want to work on 
> GNOME, please feel free to join 
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
>
> Help is greatly needed and would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Will
> GNOME a11y lead
>
> On Dec 13, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Pia wrote:
>
>> I read the description of this list and it appeared to be a mailing list
>> for the accessibility development team, but some questions made me think
>> it looked more like a users list.  Will someone straighten me out?  I am
>> looking for the development list because I would like to help if it is
>> wanted, to get a speakup binary package made for Ubuntu.  Some of us use
>> the server and so don't care about a GUI and would like to see that "just
>> work" too.  I would be willing to contribute to making that happen if
>> there is a chance to do so, but no one has answered me.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Pia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
>
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Re: question about this list

2009-12-15 Thread Willie Walker
Hi Pia:

Do you want to work on Ubuntu specifically or GNOME?  If you want to 
work on GNOME, please feel free to join 
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list

Help is greatly needed and would be greatly appreciated.

Will
GNOME a11y lead

On Dec 13, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Pia wrote:

> I read the description of this list and it appeared to be a mailing 
> list
> for the accessibility development team, but some questions made me 
> think
> it looked more like a users list.  Will someone straighten me out?  I 
> am
> looking for the development list because I would like to help if it is
> wanted, to get a speakup binary package made for Ubuntu.  Some of us 
> use
> the server and so don't care about a GUI and would like to see that 
> "just
> work" too.  I would be willing to contribute to making that happen if
> there is a chance to do so, but no one has answered me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pia
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list
> Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility


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question about this list

2009-12-13 Thread Pia
I read the description of this list and it appeared to be a mailing list 
for the accessibility development team, but some questions made me think 
it looked more like a users list.  Will someone straighten me out?  I am 
looking for the development list because I would like to help if it is 
wanted, to get a speakup binary package made for Ubuntu.  Some of us use 
the server and so don't care about a GUI and would like to see that "just 
work" too.  I would be willing to contribute to making that happen if 
there is a chance to do so, but no one has answered me.

Thanks,

Pia




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