Re: [ubuntu-art] Spreading the word
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 02:24 am, Nicholas wrote: > On 23-Sep-05, at 5:51 AM, Pascal Klein wrote: > > Agreed, however not everyone knows what an SVG is, how to change the > > background gradient and/or colour. I think the safest and most > > userfriendly > > way to go is provide both SVG and pixmap artwork (especially in terms > > of > > wallpapers). > > If you're dealing with an art team, 'no knowing' shouldn't be an issue. Oh, sorry - I meant the common user. :) Cheers -- Cheerio. Pascal Klein Wombat - [http://wombat.nuxified.com] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Spreading the word
On 23-Sep-05, at 5:51 AM, Pascal Klein wrote: Agreed, however not everyone knows what an SVG is, how to change the background gradient and/or colour. I think the safest and most userfriendly way to go is provide both SVG and pixmap artwork (especially in terms of wallpapers). If you're dealing with an art team, 'no knowing' shouldn't be an issue. Nicholas Burman nburmandesign http://www.nburmandesign.com 403.680.1968 An intellectual snob is someone who can listen to the William Tell Overture and not think of The Lone Ranger. Dan Rather (1931 - ) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Spreading the word
> > PS: Another question, would it be possible to "patch" gnome to use > > "layer backgrounds" - thats something I thought of because of the > > calendar, so that everybody could put use their own background, which is > > below a png etc. with a "alpha-masked" calendar!? But thats only a idea > > I had yesterday.. > > The closest thing you get to this is transparent SVG wallpapers. They > allow you to set background colors or gradients behind the image. Note that you can do precisely what the poster above asks for with PNGs. Just create a PNG with an alpha channel, and whatever the user chooses as the background *colour* will be seen through the transparent/translucent areas of the image. There are heaps of examples of this at art.gnome.org. - Jeff -- GNOME Summit: October 8th-10th http://live.gnome.org/Boston2005 Web development with PHP is like injecting pure rust with a high-pressure hose. For pain relief. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Spreading the word
On 9/23/05, Oliver Grawert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'd like to point out that its very important that the licensing forartwork ubuntu can ship must be the cc-sa-2.5 (*) license and that alsocontained third party pictures need to be under a opensource license (in the above case i suspect the glasses are third party stuff and i doubtits freely licensed if it's got a license at all)A lot of stock photography is royalty free if it is part of a project. You just can't disbribute the stock image separately. Of course some stock photos are purchased every time they're used, so the individual artists will need to be diligent about what stock they use.-- Matthew Nuzumwww.bearfruit.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Spreading the word
hi, Am Freitag, den 23.09.2005, 21:51 +1000 schrieb Pascal Klein: > - Teenagers (Go for cool factor. See fx. > http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Ubuntu-UbuntuGlasses_1600x1200.jpg) > - Abstract (like i'd like to point out that its very important that the licensing for artwork ubuntu can ship must be the cc-sa-2.5 (*) license and that also contained third party pictures need to be under a opensource license (in the above case i suspect the glasses are third party stuff and i doubt its freely licensed if it's got a license at all) ciao oli * http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Spreading the word
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:17 pm, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > We need six wallpapers for the calendar. I would really love to see a > calendar where there's a common red thread through all six images. > Ideally users should be looking forward to see the next calendar image. Do these need to be photographs of people, or just anything? > The closest thing you get to this is transparent SVG wallpapers. They > allow you to set background colors or gradients behind the image. I like SVGs for they have a major advantage in that field, however I think pixmap edited and created graphics also have a purpose. Both SVG and PNG/JPEG graphics should ideally be included as part of the Breezy artwork release. > Ideally I'd like every wallpaper (also calendar work) to be a > transparent SVG so that they would go with all GTK themes. Actually this > is exactly why I don't use the current calendar images. They are brown, > but my GTK theme uses blue highlighting... - Looks weird. Transparent > SVGs would solve this. Agreed, however not everyone knows what an SVG is, how to change the background gradient and/or colour. I think the safest and most userfriendly way to go is provide both SVG and pixmap artwork (especially in terms of wallpapers). > The downside to transparent SVGs is that it's harder to incorporate > photographs. - It's still doable though. I've also run into some trouble > with gradients. Check bug: > https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16025 Photographs are next to impossible to convert into an SVG. Of course potrace does a fine job, but then it is no longer really a photograph. Taking a look at what needs to be done - Shipped: Three or four _really_ different wallpapers. Not just the ubuntu logo in different layouts. Maybe targeting different user groups. Suggested types of wallpapers: - Children (Colours, cute cartoons. As a last resort we could use one from Edubuntu) - Teenagers (Go for cool factor. See fx. http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/Ubuntu-UbuntuGlasses_1600x1200.jpg) - Abstract (like http://art.ubuntu.com/download/backgrounds/ubuntu/3/swirls.svg) - Realistic (a reworked photo or something) Some of those would be quite difficult to make as SVGs. I think we should include a variety of artwork, ranging from realistic (the reworked - if at all - photos), to stuff for the younger users, but also in not only SVG but PNG/JPEGs as well. > Cheers > Mikkel My 2 cents. :o) Have a nice weekend all Pascal Klein -- Cheerio. Pascal Klein Wombat - [http://wombat.nuxified.com] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Spreading the word
On 9/23/05, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ideally I'd like every wallpaper (also calendar work) to be a > transparent SVG so that they would go with all GTK themes. Actually this > is exactly why I don't use the current calendar images. They are brown, > but my GTK theme uses blue highlighting... - Looks weird. Transparent > SVGs would solve this. I agree. :o) I haven't added anything new to my wallpaper page in a while, but I'd be glad to have one/some included in Breezy. If we can get a majority vote that ALL SVG would be good and we just need someone to execute the designs, I can probably handle that before our deadline. I suppose we'd just need to tell the theme people to pick a sensible background color or gradient as the default. Oh... and I should really get my stuff up on art.ubuntu.com huh? :-P I wish pain wasn't such an energy zapper. Grrr -- Aaron Ubuntu SVG Artwork - http://www.volvoguy.net/ubuntu --- Art, like morality, consists of drawing the line somewhere. ~ G.K. Chesterton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Spreading the word
> Perhaps I could do some (or all) calendar artwork / concept. > What do we need? A monthly calendar, two months , a quarter year..? We need six wallpapers for the calendar. I would really love to see a calendar where there's a common red thread through all six images. Ideally users should be looking forward to see the next calendar image. I'd prefer all calendar artwork to be from the same artist to make sure there's a common feel to all the pieces, but this may not be feasible..? I'm also working on some calendar concepts, but I'm afraid that I won't be able to finish it before thursday... I'm on a tight schedule finishing my master thesis also. But by all means don't hesitate! Go create! :-D I just urge people to be verbose. Tell us what you're up to, so we all know which direction we are going. > PS: Another question, would it be possible to "patch" gnome to use > "layer backgrounds" - thats something I thought of because of the > calendar, so that everybody could put use their own background, which is > below a png etc. with a "alpha-masked" calendar!? But thats only a idea > I had yesterday.. The closest thing you get to this is transparent SVG wallpapers. They allow you to set background colors or gradients behind the image. Ideally I'd like every wallpaper (also calendar work) to be a transparent SVG so that they would go with all GTK themes. Actually this is exactly why I don't use the current calendar images. They are brown, but my GTK theme uses blue highlighting... - Looks weird. Transparent SVGs would solve this. The downside to transparent SVGs is that it's harder to incorporate photographs. - It's still doable though. I've also run into some trouble with gradients. Check bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16025 Wow. That was a long rant ;-P Before we embark on a long discussion, keep in mind that the current timeline leaves little room for discussion. Cheers Mikkel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
