[ubuntu-art] SUMMARY: Proposals
Here is a contact sheet of all submissions. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/Summary_18JULY2006 Note that I kept a few of the logo designs out as they are so similar that the variations were not even visible on the contact sheet. Keep the variations such that they are apparent at 260 pixels. NEEDED: We need more variations of actual look rather than colour tweaks currently. * Logon Splashes are coming along nicely. * Logon screens are coming along nicely. * Wallpapers will probably borrow from the Logon, but we could use a few proofs of principle. Also, I require LAYERED images (preferably XCF) so that I can fill in some mocks with your fine work to provide more variations. Amazing work folks, let's keep it up. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/Summary_18JULY2006 PS: If anything has been missed, I apologize. Please send me an email. Of note, I could have sworn that jmak had a textlogo offering, but I could not find it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Colour variations on splash
On Tue, 2006-18-07 at 22:31 -0400, jmak wrote: > Thanks for the comments. Tomorrow, I will change the black to > something else. I am going to make a few color variations. If I might ask, can we postpone the colour variations until a little further down the road? Colour is a minor tweak. We need to get more of the gloss style variations on the board first. This means the top gloss, hills, more busy less busy, etc. Remember the source image: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Archives/6.06/Ubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=gnome-session-splash.png Thanks guys... TJS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] splash
On 7/18/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/18/06, jmak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a couple of splash improvisations. More comes later. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkJmakProposals > > What do you think? > > J. Mak > -- Both very nice :) I would love to see the second one with another tan instead of the black - the 'hilll' is great Rest assured, I will let these 'influence' ;) my next few variations on the GDM :P Thanks for the comments. Tomorrow, I will change the black to something else. I am going to make a few color variations. J. Mak -- http://jozmak.googlepages.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Kubuntu Design
Wow, there is a _lot_ of nice work there The thing that really stands out for me is the Usplash (I assume that's what it is) withthe cool shinny logo like Jmak's one and the SVG clone I made... I can't say purple makes me excstatic :P, but hey, we're still proposing On 7/18/06, Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Today, I worked on a new look and feel for Kubuntu overall: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas (look on the bottom) Viper550 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] splash
On 7/18/06, jmak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Here is a couple of splash improvisations. More comes later. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkJmakProposals What do you think? J. Mak -- Both very nice :) I would love to see the second one with another tan instead of the black - the 'hilll' is great Rest assured, I will let these 'influence' ;) my next few variations on the GDM :P -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] New Kubuntu Design
Today, I worked on a new look and feel for Kubuntu overall: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas (look on the bottom) Viper550 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] splash
Hi, Here is a couple of splash improvisations. More comes later. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkJmakProposals What do you think? J. Mak -- http://jozmak.googlepages.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] new wiki page
Kenneth Wimer wrote: Hi all, Yeah, I am beating my head against the wiki door :-) eventually I will even like it! Here is a page that made with some interesting ideas for edgy... http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas Have fun! Feel free to edit that page and add your own stuff (changing the introduction, of course to add your ideas). Bye, Ken --ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art You know originally when one of the test builds of Dapper had a Purple color scheme, I actually complained on this mailing list about it. I'm currently working on a new look and feel for Ubuntu, and I will provide a screenshot shortly after I get the kinks out of it for showing... Viper550 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Lots of new stuff (wiki'ed!)
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 02:16 +0200, Niklas Weidel wrote: > I've spent a long weekend on my slow laptop, but I have some stuff to > show for it on the wiki, which I've finally gotten to grips with! Feel > free to feedback. > > First of all, I've added a page of my own, where I've now put up two > new very overworked logotypes in a golden/textured/glossy look. > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NiklasWeidel > > Three new wallpaper sketches added to > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/WallpaperProposal > > Six new glossy examples added to > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/GlossProposal > > /weidel Where can I find high-res versions of these wallpapers? I think they would look good on my desktop right about now :) Very nice! God bless, Lukas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] new wiki page
Hi all, Yeah, I am beating my head against the wiki door :-) eventually I will even like it! Here is a page that made with some interesting ideas for edgy... http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas Have fun! Feel free to edit that page and add your own stuff (changing the introduction, of course to add your ideas). Bye, Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] FEEDBACK: Responses
Troy James Sobotka wrote: This is why the proposal phase is important! At Paris it wasn't precisely clear that Mr. Shuttleworth was hoping to resume where "Dapper" direction left off. This is now clearer. Thank you for taking the time to comment, we shall steer accordingly. So folks, take note, the Dapper logon splash is where Mr. Shuttleworth is heading. Who_'s gloss sampling is probably closest. Let's try to steer development that direction. To summarize: * Literal gloss samplings similar to Dapper Logon Splash. * Glossing is illustrative (rather than practical), and should be simple in nature as per the folder gloss sample with Human. * Use Who_'s logo as a general directionality guide. The Dapper Splash was introduced very late in the cycle, because we just weren't hapy with the previous version. The new ideas in there, the glassiness combined with the tan gradient, seemed to work so well that I very much would have liked to update the gnome login screen with similar texture and feel. So, ideally for me, we would use the Dapper Splash as a kind of "anchor point" and aim to have a login, and desktop wallpaper, that fit well with that. Of course, if during the proposal stage someone comes up with a look that is much nicer than that then we should go with that, but for the moment I most like the ideas embodied in there. Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Re: LAST CALL: Art Council Applications 3/3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Troy James Sobotka: > On Tue, 2006-18-07 at 16:58 +0100, Matthew East wrote: >> 1. The Art Council should not be responsible for granting Ubuntu >> membership, because the risk is that the community won't get to know new >> members or hear about good work being done in the art area, and there >> is a risk of less consistency in membership appointments. > > Yep, it was confusion central ;). I don't think there are any > membership related issues at all with the council as far as I > understand it. I think "membership" was relating more to who > is contributing on the team. Not the political membership issues. Ok, we got the confusion sorted out! But I think my point is still there. If you read Mark's original mail, he speaks about giving the Art Council being delegated the ability to grant Ubuntu membership. That was what I was concerned about. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-June/002098.html >> 2. Most decisions should be taken by the whole art team, while decisions >> which are contentious can be taken by the Art Council. I think this is >> important to ensure that everyone in the team plays a role in the >> direction of the team and to ensure that important new contributors who >> do not sit on the Art Council can participate fully. >> > > Right now, I think the AiCs are to drive the looks, and I imagine > the council will probably discourse with the AiCs. Of course, > until the process has proven itself, I don't expect anyone to > trust the form. Trust will come. Sure. I think that some structure for the art team is good, but at the same time I also think that sometimes too much structure can prevent wide collaboration. It's just a question of getting the balance right :) Matt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEvQhYtSaF0w5rBv8RAm3nAJkBy+OUIBUccHmrUc9bKhnvfBsPLgCghmZZ iE4V22ewQXniKepEUDU8nY4= =TBvn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: LAST CALL: Art Council Applications 3/3
On Tue, 2006-18-07 at 16:58 +0100, Matthew East wrote: > 1. The Art Council should not be responsible for granting Ubuntu > membership, because the risk is that the community won't get to know new > members or hear about good work being done in the art area, and there > is a risk of less consistency in membership appointments. Yep, it was confusion central ;). I don't think there are any membership related issues at all with the council as far as I understand it. I think "membership" was relating more to who is contributing on the team. Not the political membership issues. > > 2. Most decisions should be taken by the whole art team, while decisions > which are contentious can be taken by the Art Council. I think this is > important to ensure that everyone in the team plays a role in the > direction of the team and to ensure that important new contributors who > do not sit on the Art Council can participate fully. > Right now, I think the AiCs are to drive the looks, and I imagine the council will probably discourse with the AiCs. Of course, until the process has proven itself, I don't expect anyone to trust the form. Trust will come. > I'm sure that number 2. will not be a problem, because no doubt in > practice the Art Council will listen carefully to the whole team. But I > am concerned about number 1. > > Hope this clarifies what I was on about! Yep. It was a political scientist and a geologist talking about panty hose. Miscommunication. Again, that's only my understanding. Sincerely, TJS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Re: LAST CALL: Art Council Applications 3/3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, * Troy James Sobotka: > On Tue, 2006-18-07 at 09:49 +0100, Matthew East wrote: >> It seems to me that a representative "council" can be a good thing for >> the art team because art decisions can sometimes be difficult to come to >> a consensus on. However it is important to be careful about designating >> the competence of the council: > > I believe Mark Shuttleworth has addressed this. > > * The decision has been made to take a very professional > approach and accept resumes. > * The positions will be selected by the CC. I think that you have slightly misunderstood my point. I wasn't talking about the selection process for the council members, or how professional the members of the council will be. I don't have any doubts about either of those. I was talking about the role of the council; what it would actually do. These things are really important to talk about, and I couldn't find much discussion about it in the archives, and I don't remember it being discussed at any recent Community Council meetings. Put very simply, my view was: 1. The Art Council should not be responsible for granting Ubuntu membership, because the risk is that the community won't get to know new members or hear about good work being done in the art area, and there is a risk of less consistency in membership appointments. 2. Most decisions should be taken by the whole art team, while decisions which are contentious can be taken by the Art Council. I think this is important to ensure that everyone in the team plays a role in the direction of the team and to ensure that important new contributors who do not sit on the Art Council can participate fully. I'm sure that number 2. will not be a problem, because no doubt in practice the Art Council will listen carefully to the whole team. But I am concerned about number 1. Hope this clarifies what I was on about! Matt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEvQUPtSaF0w5rBv8RAvMlAJ9zT8lfCN7wWjAKkA4f4AQSoq1FGgCeM3Sw BerVcK2c/uVlKx8/yXpZlMc= =wyG4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Re: Your output
On 7/17/06, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have limited this message to the folks who are actively contributing to keep the mail down on the main mailing list. Right now, the direction that all of the work is going is tremendous. I would like to give a form of a weekly update with full contact sheets and such, and to this end, if you could please bang out as many variations as you possibly can. Once you have done this, put them on a personal wiki page as a tarball or images or whatever, and I will personally contact sheet them all into a professional looking package. Thank you all for your committed time and effort! PS: If you can, the preferred naming conventions I have chosen are __.png or .jpg For example, wall_weidel_0027.png or logo_jmak_0021.png. I migrated all of my artworks to this new wiki page. So far I have the three logos and created a demo with the original greeter background just to see how the logo looks in a native environment. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkJmakProposals J. Mak -- http://jozmak.googlepages.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] PROPOSALS: Caramel Glass GDM
On Tue, 2006-18-07 at 12:41 +0100, Joao Inacio wrote: > - I think a dark background is nicer than a lighter one, though the > 4th one may be a bit too dark. Tonal issues are easily and quickly dealt with once a guiding direction is chosen. Don't get too fussy about the small details just yet. On Tue, 2006-18-07 at 12:41 +0100, Joao Inacio wrote: > - The position for the logos in first page seems good (and simple) > enough but it's a bit hard to tell without knowing exactly the space > consumed by the controls (text input, buttons...) Composition is another thing that is easily adjusted. Once a direction is chosen, it is very easy to offer compositional variants. On Tue, 2006-18-07 at 12:41 +0100, Joao Inacio wrote: > - The circle of friends - somehow, though i like the lighter version, > the dark one in the first image seems clearer. Also, the one in the > last image looks sharp too. contrast issue? Again, try to see the forest through the trees at this phase. As a general rule: * DON'T worry about resolution / dithering / minutiae * DO try to estimate how the elements will fit into the big picture. * DON'T look at proposals as an either / or situation -- we are completely free to mix and match general concepts and bundle them into a polished final product. Hope this helps a bit... Some terrific work is showing up, keep it up folks! Sincerely, TJS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: LAST CALL: Art Council Applications 3/3
On Tue, 2006-18-07 at 09:49 +0100, Matthew East wrote: > It seems to me that a representative "council" can be a good thing for > the art team because art decisions can sometimes be difficult to come to > a consensus on. However it is important to be careful about designating > the competence of the council: I believe Mark Shuttleworth has addressed this. * The decision has been made to take a very professional approach and accept resumes. * The positions will be selected by the CC. It should go without saying that a good organizational structure, with strong management, is very effective. One would hope that if you 'hire' the proper individuals for roles, that they will perform in a professional manner and apply their skill-base. Hopefully the results will showcase their particular abilities. Generally you hire a chef to cook and design meals, not a welder. On the flip side of the coin is a system laden with micro managing -- bureaucracy based creative endeavours; A system where the welder chooses the menu, a carpenter cooks the entree, and a veterinarian lays out the plate. The bottom line is that community driven efforts thus far yield a rather hodge-podge approach that lacks the distinct professional polish and consistency. By establishing a 'central' artistic council, I believe Mr. Shuttleworth wishes to negotiate this obstacle. I suppose that makes 4 cents. Sincerely, TJS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: [Propose] Caramel Glass GDM
PS: Sorry, I had to have a second look ;)I think the 3rd one is clearly better than the second, because I can't really have shadow around this glass plate.It gives the impression that the scene is not properly lighted or the glass is not polished. In the 3rd (and 6th), the light is refracted in the glass background's edges. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: [Propose] Caramel Glass GDM
Wow.I like the second and the last (6th) one the best, although I'm having a hard time trying to decide if the second or the third one is better.The dark one is too dark for me.The shadow on the fifth looks a bit strange. I am expecting an object to cast the shadow, so this confuses the brain a bit. What makes me chose the second over the first is the 3d effect of this glass-plate background as well as the colors of the logo and font. In the first they somehow seem not to fit their surroundings, being too reddish. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: [Propose] Caramel Glass GDM
On 7/18/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have just added 5 more compositional alternatives - hope they can give people some ideas On 7/17/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This style is based loosely on the Dapper Splash, It uses a glossy > Ubuntu logo that still needs a fair bit of perfection, but I think the > gimping (I.E using some filters) of the glassy logo has helped > somewhat > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/GDMProposal > > What do you people all think? > > I know it seems quite 'polished' for a proposal, but I really didn't > trust my ability to render any glassy effects on paper - you will see > when I submit some sketches I did on the bus that pen and paper and I > don't work well together :P > Note: for some reason, the image quality on the logos on the first image seems to be higher, even though it's lower res. Here's my thoughts: - I think a dark background is nicer than a lighter one, though the 4th one may be a bit too dark. - The position for the logos in first page seems good (and simple) enough but it's a bit hard to tell without knowing exactly the space consumed by the controls (text input, buttons...) - The logo letters look better than since i last saw them - very nice touch (i love the "b" and "t" letters). - The circle of friends - somehow, though i like the lighter version, the dark one in the first image seems clearer. Also, the one in the last image looks sharp too. contrast issue? Disclaimer: I'm by no means an art expert, just a user with a small percentage of common sense - take my commons with a grain of salt -- João Inácio http://www.jcinacio.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Gloss Props!
Yaaah, nice. Can you lighten up the gloss (on the top) and the glow (bottom) a bit? On the splash screen, the "ubuntu" looks nearly monochrome. Which would be very pitiful if it staid that way ;)Generally, the colors are working very well for me. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu logo
Awesome work!The darker one (v1) seems to look better to me, while the others look rather flat. But that might be due to the missing strong gradients in the shapes' stroke lines. Is this intentional? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Re: LAST CALL: Art Council Applications 3/3
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Hi there,
* Troy James Sobotka:
{snip}
> The Art Council will become an extremely important
> are of the Ubuntu project, so I would encourage everyone
> and anyone who has interest to apply.
{snip}
> PS: A brief set of questions and answers can be found
> here:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-July/002422.html
I saw this on the above link and wanted to raise something.
* What will a member of the "Art Council" be
responsible for?
- Recognition of substantial contributors with
membership in Ubuntu.
I have to say that I think the idea of an "Art Council" for decision
making about art in the distribution is quite a good idea (assuming that
the team finds it difficult to come to a consensus on some questions),
but I have a couple of concerns. I should say that I'm not a member of
the art team, but rather just an Ubuntu contributor who has an interest
in the community in general. So what I say is not necessarily based on
an understanding of the art team, but rather experience with the Ubuntu
community in general.
I think that delegating the task of approving "Ubuntu membership" to a
particular team is something that we should approach with caution. I
think that in the case of core developers, delegating is a good idea
because sometimes people end up waiting for too long before being
approved. However when it comes to individual teams, I think we should
be very careful about this. It seems to me that there are two potential
issues. The first and most important is that the community is getting
larger now, and it is really important to ensure that different groups
within the community know what contributions are going on in different
areas. Having the Community Council approve Ubuntu members means that
there is a central place that everyone can go in order to listen to what
contributions are being made, and I think this binds the community
together and helps ensure that everybody who is interested in the
community knows the people who are new and who are doing good work. The
second thing is consistency - the more delegation that goes on for
Ubuntu membership, the more difficult it is to ensure that the same
standards apply to everyone.
It seems to me that a representative "council" can be a good thing for
the art team because art decisions can sometimes be difficult to come to
a consensus on. However it is important to be careful about designating
the competence of the council: I think that the role of the council
should be limited to what is necessary - where the team struggles to
come to a consensus on an issue, that is a good place for the council to
help. Where the team can take decisions as a whole, it should do so. And
for concepts like Ubuntu membership which affect the wider community,
the Community Council should continue to deal with that.
(my 2 cents)
Matt
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