Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal : Ubuntu-Art forum.
On 9/3/06, PingunZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The general idea is an artwork forum, replacing launchpad, the wiki and the Mailing List.This just seems like a bad idea.The rest of Ubuntu uses LP the wikis. Integration with the rest of the Ubuntu project/community is a *good* thing. It seems to be working for the art team this release cycle.Speaking purely personally, I find mailing lists far easier to keep track of than forums. Everything arrives in my mail client, I don't have to visit a bunch of different websites to try and keep track of stuff. Brian(Madpilot on IRC elsewhere...) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal : Ubuntu-Art forum.
I check a few different forums on a fairly regular basis, and while I appreciate the structure I find that it makes it very difficult to have an idea of what the whole group is doing and I find it anoying to have to look in so many places. I like the way that I check one place, my inbox, for all the MLs I read - if you find it too much then get a gmail account and set up some labels - combined with conversation grouping this makes gmail _perfect_ for monitoring lots of high volume lists... One of the things at the artwork meeting we had after Dapper was that people found it difficult to check so many different places. Given I think that it is imporssible to eliminate the mailing list, this would just add another place. Thirdly, I don't know how many of the busy ubuntu-masters read this list, but I would guess it makes it easier for those who are extremely busy and only want/need to keep one eye on the team to check a forum and see what they need...Time is a big issue and forums mean cheking lots of subforums for relevant messages - mailing lists mean scanning all the titles... Brian's comments about using wiki/LP like the other projects are good too Note that gnomethemes.org/forum is a good forum on art and theming. Who On 9/3/06, PingunZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An Ubuntu-Art forum. This is a text based on an idea I had when I joined ubuntu-art. I modified it a month later, so that I wouldn't tell any lies :) The general idea is an artwork forum, replacing launchpad, the wiki and the Mailing List. It explains the difficulties for beginners and tries to solve those problems. Enjoy :) a ) Current State. - Register to launchpad. - subscribe to the mailing list. - Join the irc channel. - Register to the wiki. This causes a lot of work to stay updated. You'll have to check your mail, the wiki and launcpad. Eventually even join the irc channel. b) Future State. ( With the forum ) - subscribe to the forum. - Eventually subscribe to threads / forum sections. - Join the irc channel. A forum is easier to join and to stay up-to-date. c) Goods. - Forums are more structured. - Its easier to join, attracts more new artists. - Easier to stay updated. - No more refering to wiki's anymore, just post the image. - Easier to post and find guides. - Discussions and feedback will be easier to track - Only one site to check. - Proposals, mockups are easier to publish. d) Bads. The risk of spam, flaming, .. But that is also possible in the mailing list. Feel free to add some :) e) Forum Layout. Support : Questions about program functions can be found here. Bugs : Current bugs in the artwork can be posted here. Produce : Icons, wallpapers, *DMs, usplash', ... The real produce phase runs here. Howto's and guides : User posted guides about making art or using programs,.. Incoming : Members post mockups, others revise it. Maybe even realise it. Projects : New programs or projects can be introduced here. Calendar : The ubuntu-art Calendar. Artwork Cafe: A place where artists can chill out after a hard day of work. f) Goal The goal of this idea is really simple, attract more artists to join ubuntu-art. And let them work more structured. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Edgy proposal - UbuntuEvolve
Hi All, I have a proposal theme for Egdy Eft. So far it includes GDM, splash screen and wallpaper. I am hoping to add it to the incoming list but before I do I thought I'd ask your opinions. You can see it here: http://huw.ugbox.net/UbuntuEvolve/ Hope you guys like it. Cheers, Huw -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy proposal - UbuntuEvolve
huwshimi wrote: Hi All, I have a proposal theme for Egdy Eft. So far it includes GDM, splash screen and wallpaper. I am hoping to add it to the incoming list but before I do I thought I'd ask your opinions. You can see it here: http://huw.ugbox.net/UbuntuEvolve/ Hope you guys like it. Cheers, Huw That is totally awesome, you are an excellent artist! In my books, 5 stars! Viper550 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal : Ubuntu-Art forum.
Op zo, 03-09-2006 te 22:54 +0200, schreef PingunZ: - Register to launchpad. - subscribe to the mailing list. [...] - Register to the wiki. AFAIK you can use your LP login on the wiki now? This causes a lot of work to stay updated. You'll have to check your mail, the wiki and launcpad. [...] - subscribe to the forum. - Eventually subscribe to threads / forum sections. You can subscribe to wiki pages and launchpad pages, just like you suggest to subscribe to forum threads, so in the end I don't see that much difference? Also, web forums don't keep status information about what you've read already, which actually makes it really difficult to keep up-to-date. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal : Ubuntu-Art forum.
Hmm, not quite as enthousiast as I hoped.Well, it was just an idea :)Maybe it would be better if the forum just replaced the wiki+ML, not launchpad ?Against voters : Don't you like the whole idea or is it just launchpad/other aspects ? Well I still like the idea, whether it becomes a forum with or withoud launchpad itergrated :)Cheers2006/9/4, Jan Claeys [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Op zo, 03-09-2006 te 22:54 +0200, schreef PingunZ: - Register to launchpad. - subscribe to the mailing list.[...] - Register to the wiki.AFAIK you can use your LP login on the wiki now? This causes a lot of work to stay updated. You'll have to check your mail, the wiki and launcpad. [...] - subscribe to the forum. - Eventually subscribe to threads / forum sections.You can subscribe to wiki pages and launchpad pages, just like yousuggest to subscribe to forum threads, so in the end I don't see that much difference?Also, web forums don't keep status information about what you've readalready, which actually makes it really difficult to keep up-to-date.--Jan Claeys--ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy proposal - UbuntuEvolve
Nice, very nice :)It reminds me to fedora in some way but I like it !Cheers2006/9/4, Viper550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: huwshimi wrote: Hi All, I have a proposal theme for Egdy Eft. So far it includes GDM, splash screen and wallpaper. I am hoping to add it to the incoming list but before I do I thought I'd ask your opinions. You can see it here: http://huw.ugbox.net/UbuntuEvolve/ Hope you guys like it. Cheers, Huw That is totally awesome, you are an excellent artist! In my books, 5 stars!Viper550--ubuntu-art mailing listubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal : Ubuntu-Art forum.
On ma, 2006-09-04 at 17:21 +0200, PingunZ wrote: Maybe it would be better if the forum just replaced the wiki+ML, not launchpad ? Please no, a wiki isn't a discussion medium -- which is a good thing for artwork. -- Dennis K. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal : Ubuntu-Art forum.
On Mon, 2006-04-09 at 18:10 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote: On ma, 2006-09-04 at 17:21 +0200, PingunZ wrote: Maybe it would be better if the forum just replaced the wiki+ML, not launchpad ? Please no, a wiki isn't a discussion medium -- which is a good thing for artwork. Agree with Dennis here. Also remember that the Wiki is a mandatory requirement to integrate with Launchpad and Bazaar. Form should follow function. As of now, our functioning does not require expansion of the base set of tools. If we hit critical mass regarding output, expansion will become far more viable. Looking to the future however, as the mailing list archives will show, a CMS is a possibility to streamline the uploading and organization of the team. To this end, imbrandon has been working on getting an area up based on Drupal. I cannot stress this enough -- we _must_ work within the existing structure set forth by the Ubuntu establishment if we are to be at _all_ effective. These factors were considered early on and largely guided the process we have today. Sincerely, TJS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal : Ubuntu-Art forum.
So just leave it as it is ? ML + wiki + launchpad ?Cheers2006/9/4, Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2006-04-09 at 18:10 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote: On ma, 2006-09-04 at 17:21 +0200, PingunZ wrote: Maybe it would be better if the forum just replaced the wiki+ML, not launchpad ? Please no, a wiki isn't a discussion medium -- which is a good thing for artwork.Agree with Dennis here.Also remember that the Wiki is a mandatory requirement tointegrate with Launchpad and Bazaar. Form should follow function.As of now, our functioningdoes not require expansion of the base set of tools.If wehit critical mass regarding output, expansion will becomefar more viable.Looking to the future however, as the mailing list archives will show, a CMS is a possibility to streamline the uploadingand organization of the team.To this end, imbrandonhas been working on getting an area up based on Drupal.I cannot stress this enough -- we _must_ work within the existing structure set forth by the Ubuntu establishmentif we are to be at _all_ effective.These factors wereconsidered early on and largely guided the process we havetoday.Sincerely,TJS --ubuntu-art mailing listubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal : Ubuntu-Art forum.
Op ma, 04-09-2006 te 17:21 +0200, schreef PingunZ: Hmm, not quite as enthousiast as I hoped. Well, it was just an idea :) Maybe it would be better if the forum just replaced the wiki+ML, not launchpad ? Do people know that the mailing list has a web-interface too? http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.artwork (It also has Usenet and RSS interfaces there.) Against voters : Don't you like the whole idea or is it just launchpad/other aspects ? FWIW: I don't consider myself as a member of the Art Team, so I didn't vote, I just gave my opinion... ;-) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [WIKI] Update to GetInvolved
On Mon, 2006-04-09 at 22:24 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: Do people know that the mailing list has a web-interface too? http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.artwork (It also has Usenet and RSS interfaces there.) Thanks to the great tips that Jan has offered here over the past few posts, I updated the wiki page for GetInvolved. Hopefully it will make it that much more easy to keep track of the artwork related developments. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/GetInvolved Thanks again Jan! On a side note, if anyone out there is interested in contributing to the wiki, please feel free to update it where appropriate. If you feel the need for a new page or set of pages, please locate them under Artwork/Incoming and notify the list. Sincerely, TJS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy proposal - UbuntuEvolve
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:28 +1000, huwshimi wrote: Hi All, I have a proposal theme for Egdy Eft. So far it includes GDM, splash screen and wallpaper. I am hoping to add it to the incoming list but before I do I thought I'd ask your opinions. You can see it here: http://huw.ugbox.net/UbuntuEvolve/ Hope you guys like it. Cheers, Huw Do you have links to the cropped splash, full wallpaper, and GDM theme? I'd like to use them on my dapper box. God bless, Luke -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
