Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 22, Issue 3

2007-04-14 Thread Vincent Weber

Earth tones can work wondefully towards communicating 'earthy' ideals
when implemented in the design structure.  That said, when you fail to
apply those notions, or worse -- as Ubuntu does -- use 'brown' just for
'browns' sake, you end up in a mire of mediocre design.


Ok, good point. But you don't have to screw up that earthy design when you
seek different colors. For example, look at these stones in the commercial
for the Motorola Pebble (here's a small image
http://www.randomculture.com/random_culture/images/peblpond.jpg) You can see
the grey and the deep sea green giving you this raw violence of nature. It
is earty in my opinion. No one has ever done that before.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Colour

2007-04-14 Thread Donn
 I still have
 to meet with the one who wants to keep it.

Just to say, I love the browns and I wish Kubuntu would adopt them too. C'mon, 
Ubuntu is African and Africa is all about tones of brown and the veld.

/d

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Colour

2007-04-14 Thread jmak
On 4/14/07, Donn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I still have
  to meet with the one who wants to keep it.

 Just to say, I love the browns and I wish Kubuntu would adopt them too. C'mon,
 Ubuntu is African and Africa is all about tones of brown and the veld.


There is a confusion here. No one is suggesting that the brown is
ugly. But the target users for ubuntu are not the Africans where this
color enjoys privileged symbolic meaning. Rather Ubuntu aims at the
global audience (dominated by western influences) that operates along
different cultural lines. And this is the audience that needs to be
satisfied. In other words, the choice of a successful color scheme
shouldn't be based on personal preferences but rather on the
expectations of the global users. Don't forget that color is not only
a matter of aesthetics but it is a usability issue as well. There are
plenty of info on the net about the effects of color on human
psychology. Research the subject to see what I mean.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Colour

2007-04-14 Thread Donn

 There is a confusion here. No one is suggesting that the brown is
 ugly.
No worries.

 But the target users for ubuntu are not the Africans where this 
 color enjoys privileged symbolic meaning. Rather Ubuntu aims at the
 global audience (dominated by western influences)
I'm white and western, I just happened to be born in South Africa!
I still like the brown. I think it's a brave and distinctive choice.
:)

If we are gonna go down the cultural perception road then I always argue for 
a locale-based theme such that the locale decides the icons, the colours, the 
fonts, and so on. One size-fits all just don't work.

 Research the subject to see what I mean.
I'm sure it gets deeper than I have the metaphysics for, but I's still likes 
my browns man!

Cheers,
/d

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Colour

2007-04-14 Thread Troy James Sobotka
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jmak wrote:

 Don't forget that color is not only
 a matter of aesthetics but it is a usability issue as well. There are
 plenty of info on the net about the effects of color on human
 psychology. Research the subject to see what I mean.
 

I can't stress this enough, this is, by all empirical research, an urban
myth.

Color Psychology is an attempt to legitimize a field that was once
referred to chromotherapy.  It was used in ancient Egyptian and
Chinese cultures.  In contemporary terms, it is considered by most
psychologists to be completely bunk.

The American Medical Association dismissed it about a decade ago.

Consider the following:
In 1878 Edwin Babbit published The Principles of Light and Color: The
Healing Power of Color. Babbit believed that pulsing coloured lights
shone into the eyes could cure a deficiency in eyesight, correct eye
coordination, and general health problems. We know today that
ultraviolet light can kill bacteria, but Dinshah P Ghadiali4 claimed
that he could cure a patient by shining multi-coloured light upon their
bare skin. Calling it 'Spectro-Chrome Therapy', he said that the basic
elements of the human body - oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen and carbon - all
had a corollary colour; oxygen was blue, hydrogen red, nitrogen green,
and carbon yellow. He said that the human body is responsive to these
four 'colour wave potencies' and to cure disease it was necessary to
administer the lacking colours or reduce the colours that have become
too brilliant. After 30 years of criminal activity, including immoral
relations with a 19-year-old girl who had been his secretary, making
over a million dollars selling the device, 12 criminal counts and five
years probation, a permanent injunction was issued in 1959 against
Ghadiali and Spectro-Chrome, and in 1966, Ghadiali died. Amazingly
enough, the Spectro-Chrome is still available by mail order.

Do you think that colour psychology has much merit when it is listed on
the same page that has astro psychics and UFO spottings?

 Rather Ubuntu aims at the
 global audience (dominated by western influences) that operates along
 different cultural lines.

Again, this is rather Western centric.  Remember, as of two years ago
some of the most lauded designers were popping up in Starbucks and like
coffee shop mentality.  What was the base colour in most of those
schemes?  That's right -- _brown_.  They won a boatload of awards
fueling the organic brown earthy look and feel, and with good reason --
some of that work is _phenomenal_ and had a good deal to do with
Starbuck's success.

Sincerely,
TJS
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Colour

2007-04-14 Thread jmak
 Again, this is rather Western centric.  Remember, as of two years ago
 some of the most lauded designers were popping up in Starbucks and like
 coffee shop mentality.  What was the base colour in most of those
 schemes?  That's right -- _brown_.  They won a boatload of awards
 fueling the organic brown earthy look and feel, and with good reason --
 some of that work is _phenomenal_ and had a good deal to do with
 Starbuck's success.


But you dont live in the starbucks. On the other hand, you spend many
hours every day in front of your computer. The computer is a bit like
home. It is unlikely that you paint your living room say orange, or
black.

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