Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Theme

2007-04-30 Thread Simon Hough
I think this is a wonderful idea, if executed right it may be a good
way of getting the community artwork back into the main spot light
of a release..

I'll definitely be giving this one alot of thought:)

Simon
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 23:43 +0800, nothlit wrote:
 I read the proposal of a community theme that all of us can contribute
 to,
 ( https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2007-April/003858.html ) and I 
 think its a good idea. It'll be great to see what the community can do on our 
 own, with our own concepts, etc. The goal is to create a complete community 
 theme, that we can at least get into universe, and perhaps as an alternative. 
 The plan is to target Gutsy, but we could target the next LTS release 
 instead. Remember, that such an encompassing project can be broken up into 
 small manageable bits, that we could all contribute to, little by little. 
 Lets see how this evolves as we go on :) 
 
 I've created a wiki page--where we can start defining our direction,
 and contributing concepts, etc.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CommunityTheme
 
 We need people to express interest to get this going, so please,
 express your thoughts and contribute to the wiki!
 
 As an aside: My favorite earthy tone is that of rich red clay/mud.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Theme

2007-04-30 Thread Ravi Shanker
This is in response to the 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CommunityTheme

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I was too looking this to happen. I didn't know there are less people in
the artwork community.
Anyway, before we proceed, we need to put some time discussing about the
current available theme on Gnome and other OS, what they represent, how
they are good, and also which of them are better than other and why.
This would probably lead us to know human feeling and reactions about
the themes. We should not ignore what currently is available, they lead
to better judgement and production.


Right now Ubuntu looks very general, Fedora is working on better than
best, but no steps taken to break the limit on Ubuntu.

DOnt forget to work on mouse cursor theme too, look at MacOSx mouse thme
and also Redhat BlueCurve mouse theme, they are beautiful.

One thing I would like to say (please dont flame :))
Tango is a good icon theme, but when I look at it, why doesnt it attract
much, I came to the point that it totally lacks sharpness. In my
designing time (though i am not a good and professional designer), I
learn that sharpness gets more attraction, sharp edges are better with
auto contrast they produce. Even a dull color but in sharp mode creates
better visualisation than colorful less sharp objects. Try it working
(take a pic blur the region around a small portion and then look at it
in fullscreen, your eyes automtically attaches to sharp objects and
regions).

Current MacOSX and Vista has some sharpness in theme, (though vista
lacks it in Folder views).

So, the keywords in neXt theme production should be: 
*Color
*Contrast
*Sharp
*Clean
*Real Space Objects (3d Feel)

When we look at desktop, it should be in real sense. A desktop table,
with light at a point, papers and objects on the table, shadows due to
light above, minute details in the object to make it little more
realistic, better contrast to figure the defference among objects and
environment, sharp edges and corners.
Look at the real desktop, and you can imagine it. Now, what about clean.
My perception is that, a clean desktop and theme is more used (and used
for more time than others in hands of those theme changing humans) than
over modern and bright, glossy and very colorful themes(where color
seems to pour out anytime).
Real space objects are those which gives the sense of universal light,
depth, space and 3d. It can be created using the consistent shadows,
shines, perspective draws etc.

Let me know what you think. We should also fix time over IRC to meet at
#ubuntu-art

:)
cheers (I need to run now, need study, tomorrow is my exam)

On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 23:43 +0800, nothlit wrote:
 I read the proposal of a community theme that all of us can contribute
 to,
 ( https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2007-April/003858.html ) and I 
 think its a good idea. It'll be great to see what the community can do on our 
 own, with our own concepts, etc. The goal is to create a complete community 
 theme, that we can at least get into universe, and perhaps as an alternative. 
 The plan is to target Gutsy, but we could target the next LTS release 
 instead. Remember, that such an encompassing project can be broken up into 
 small manageable bits, that we could all contribute to, little by little. 
 Lets see how this evolves as we go on :) 
 
 I've created a wiki page--where we can start defining our direction,
 and contributing concepts, etc.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/CommunityTheme
 
 We need people to express interest to get this going, so please,
 express your thoughts and contribute to the wiki!
 
 As an aside: My favorite earthy tone is that of rich red clay/mud.


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[ubuntu-art] Current Community Theme and a Good Read

2007-04-30 Thread Troy James Sobotka
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I just wanted to say that it is a pleasant experience to see interest
popping up at the thought of a community theme.


On a side note, here is a very good read to anyone interested in art
and design from a person who is one of the top in their field.

If Mr. Shuttleworth could find the time to read this it might be
some wonderful food for thought:

http://www.design-emotion.com/2006/04/30/getting-emotional-with-paul-bennett/

A _very_ relevant quotation:
[In relation to the standout design of Starbucks and Apple]
 Secondly, do not be frightened of design ? what both these companies share 
 is an innate sense of using design as a tool for really communicating their 
 values at every possible stage of the consumers ?journey?? through their
 brand ? the stores, the ads, the packaging, the product, are all designed
 with equal care and attention.

Sincerely,
TJS



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Current Community Theme and a Good Read

2007-04-30 Thread Simon Hough

Another point to maybe mention, since it has been leaked that Dell will be
using Ubuntu on new PC`s sold
will there still be the same community involvement? Or will lit purely be a
Conical effort?  I don't want
to see everyone working exceptionally hard and then it not making the cut
even though the final
product will have an exceptional look and feel.

Simon


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I just wanted to say that it is a pleasant experience to see interest
popping up at the thought of a community theme.


On a side note, here is a very good read to anyone interested in art
and design from a person who is one of the top in their field.

If Mr. Shuttleworth could find the time to read this it might be
some wonderful food for thought:


http://www.design-emotion.com/2006/04/30/getting-emotional-with-paul-bennett/

A _very_ relevant quotation:
[In relation to the standout design of Starbucks and Apple]
 Secondly, do not be frightened of design ? what both these companies
share
 is an innate sense of using design as a tool for really communicating
their
 values at every possible stage of the consumers ?journey?? through their
 brand ? the stores, the ads, the packaging, the product, are all
designed
 with equal care and attention.

Sincerely,
TJS



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Current Community Theme and a Good Read

2007-04-30 Thread Troy James Sobotka
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Simon Hough wrote:
 Another point to maybe mention, since it has been leaked that Dell will
 be using Ubuntu on new PC`s sold
 will there still be the same community involvement?

What is discussed in this thread is a community theme.  There has been
little community development through the rather... uh... impressive
history of Ubuntu art and design, so I wouldn't see why that would
change now.  Further, it isn't really a concern.

 I don't want
 to see everyone working exceptionally hard and then it not making the
 cut even though the final
 product will have an exceptional look and feel.

It's the nature of the beast.  If it is satisfactory, I am pretty sure
we can get it into the repositories.

That said, at this juncture, no one has worked exceptionally hard on things.

Worry about getting something out.  Stallman has worked _exceptionally_
hard to get Free Software into the world, and you don't hear him crying
foul.  Finally, 'exceptional' is a bit of a stretch possibly.  How about
we get _something_ done by the community as a whole?

Sincerely,
TJS
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