Re: [ubuntu-art] New member/ Gutsy wallpaper observation.

2007-09-22 Thread Andreas Nilsson
xl cheese wrote:
 I joined because I was not sure if the ubuntu art team was aware of 
 the commotion regarding the gutsy default wallpaper.  The main 
 complaints are:
 -It's too dark
 -Grainy
 -Looks too much like Vista
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=555477
 http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us
Hi!
As a background pictures are so simple to make, I'm afraid you will 
never reach a consensus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_of_the_bikeshed

Parkinson shows how you can go into the board of directors and get 
approval for building a multi-million or even billion dollar atomic 
power plant, but if you want to build a bike shed you will be tangled up 
in endless discussions.

Parkinson explains that this is because an atomic plant is so vast, so 
expensive and so complicated that people cannot grasp it, and rather 
than try, they fall back on the assumption that somebody else checked 
all the details before it got this far. Richard P. Feynmann gives a 
couple of interesting, and very much to the point, examples relating to 
Los Alamos in his books.

A bike shed on the other hand. Anyone can build one of those over a 
weekend, and still have time to watch the game on TV. So no matter how 
well prepared, no matter how reasonable you are with your proposal, 
somebody will seize the chance to show that he is doing his job, that he 
is paying attention, that he is /here/.
(from 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING)

I would prefer to trust Kenneth on his decision.
- Andreas


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New member/ Gutsy wallpaper observation.

2007-09-22 Thread Valentyn Kukushkin
I don't like that wallpaper either. It's way too dark and depressive. Who
made the choice anyway? I thought the community decides which wallpaper will
make its step into final release. Many people submitted their proposal
artwork and they weren't even asked which one they like... The question is:
should I submit any Artwork in the future?! But now it's too late anyway,
September the 20th was the deadline for submitting Artwork.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New member/ Gutsy wallpaper observation.

2007-09-22 Thread Troy James Sobotka
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Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 A bike shed on the other hand. Anyone can build one of those over a 
 weekend, and still have time to watch the game on TV. So no matter how 
 well prepared, no matter how reasonable you are with your proposal, 
 somebody will seize the chance to show that he is doing his job, that he 
 is paying attention, that he is /here/.
 (from 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING)
 

Actually, if you have a clearly outlined audience and design goal, it is
quite easy to take the broad subjective murmurings out of the mixture.

- From that point forwards, you evaluate the work based on whether or not
it is communicating with the audience and delivering on the goal.  Still
estimation, but well away from the It's ugly etc. discussion.

Rather art and design 101.

That said, of the following points:
 -It's too dark
 -Grainy
 -Looks too much like Vista

It's too dark falls into the completely relative world of bikeshedding.

Grainy could possibly be quantified.  I am sure the dithering issue
can be adjusted, although the percentage of zoom on the source image is
probably adversely affecting this.

Looks too much like Vista is probably touching on the larger statement
that it is of the 'sweepy / swoopy / curve' genre, which it most
certainly is seated within.

So of the three, two are relatively useful commentaries.

Sincerely,
TJS
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Gutsy wallpaper observation

2007-09-22 Thread Slogger
 are with your proposal, 
 somebody will seize the chance to show that he is doing his job, that he 
 is paying attention, that he is /here/.
 (from 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING)
 
 I would prefer to trust Kenneth on his decision.
 - Andreas
 
 
 
 
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 I don't like that wallpaper either. It's way too dark and depressive. Who
 made the choice anyway? I thought the community decides which wallpaper will
 make its step into final release. Many people submitted their proposal
 artwork and they weren't even asked which one they like... The question is:
 should I submit any Artwork in the future?! But now it's too late anyway,
 September the 20th was the deadline for submitting Artwork.
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[ubuntu-art] Artwork / packagefreeze exception request

2007-09-22 Thread Jeff Schroeder
In the spirit of eye candy and the Consistent and Easy to Use Login
Screen and Unlock Screensaver[1] specification, I've made a human
gnome-screensaver lock dialog theme.

Currently, this is what the screensaver unlock dialog looks like:
http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/ubuntu/gnome-screensaver-default.png

And with the new human theme for users with and without faces:
http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/ubuntu/01-human-gnome-screensaver.png
http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/ubuntu/02-human-gnome-screensaver.png
http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/ubuntu/03-human-gnome-screensaver.png
http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/ubuntu/04-human-gnome-screensaver.png

You can download it here:
http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/ubuntu/gnome-screensaver-human.tar.bz2

This makes the screensaver unlock use the same images as the gdm login
albeit scaled down. Doing this increases the overall desktop
experience and wow factor of Ubuntu slightly by adding consistency. No
strings are changed that require translation, no package is seriously
modifed, and nothing risky happens. It is a glade file, a dialog
specific gtkrc, and 2 images that need to be added to the
gnome-screensaver package. The glade file is just a modified version
of the current default.

I'm asking for a freeze break for this simply because it is a
non-intrusive change that makes Ubuntu look better. Besides my being
an idiot and missing the artwork / betafreeze, are there any good
reasons to _not_ ship this with gutsy? Perhaps it could be included
after the beta freeze?

Installation:
- Extract the contents of gnome-screensaver-human.tar.bz2 into
/usr/share/gnome-screensaver.
- Run 'gconftool-2 -s --type=string
/apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_dialog_theme human'

Reverting back to the default:
- Run 'gconftool-2 -s --type=string
/apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_dialog_theme default'

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnifiedLoginUnlock
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