Re: [ubuntu-art] Anyone Remember this idea?

2007-12-22 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 05:19:04PM -0800, Ken Vermette said:
 The idea of combining the themes has me curious. Although the theme we could
 see coming out of it might be less bold or concepty (is that even a word?),
 I could see something like that being a much more popular theme...
 
 I'm going to try a meshing of the two and see what we get. Expect results
 tomorrow or the day after. I'm also going to make this theme one possible
 with current technology - without the need for additional libraries.
 
 It will only take me a short time to make it, but if it proves more popular
 than Basic Ideals I'll put my other projects on hiatus to complete the new
 theme.

great stuff Ken. looking forward to it..

julian

 
 On Dec 21, 2007 1:10 PM, Álvaro Medina Ballester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  The wallpaper is amazing, the shades are great, but the shutdown button is
  not usable and don't fits well with the theme.
  Mixing this colour scheme with Ken's ideas would be amazing.
 
  2007/12/21, xl cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
   I tweaked the colors on my theme and slapped the brown wallpaper on
   it.  I also recently discovered the inverted button effect with the
   clearlooks engine and like them quite a bit.
  
   Be sure to click on the full size view:
  
   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/SmoothMergedGradients#preview
   
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I thought is was a good use of brown.
   
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2620273#post2620273
   
   
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Anyone Remember this idea?

2007-12-22 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 03:40:31PM -0800, Troy James Sobotka said:
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 xl cheese wrote:
  I thought is was a good use of brown.
  
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2620273#post2620273
 
 
 Seriously folks, look at the details on this:
 
 1) It is completely devoid of any concept or goal.
 2) It resorts to the already vacuous and tripey
'swervy curleys'.
 3) It is yet _again_ monochromatic and monotonous.
 

yet it got 18 pages of praise by Ubuntu users, for the choice of 
colour palette especially. it's worth listening to that.

it doesn't promise to have a roadmap, it's just a brief experiment
posted on a whim by a forum member: a mockup.

the AWN-like dock is completely unrealistic of course, as i said in a
previous email. nonetheless the overall balance of colour is appealing
to many people: reading the comments i get the feeling people are
looking for less colour rather than more of it..

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[ubuntu-art] Bringing back old mockups ...

2007-12-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
I have one (or a series, actually), too ;)
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/experimental-theme-mockup-5/

What I would change now:
- get rid of the HD icons
- move to colour scheme with more contrast in hue and brightness
 
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[ubuntu-art] Art Director

2007-12-22 Thread Troy James Sobotka
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Greetings all.

An art director / designer associate of mine has graciously
accepted an invitation for an interview.  His name is
Andrew Menzies ( http://imdb.com/name/nm0579980/ ).  He
is formally trained in Architectural design and has extended
his experience into art direction / design on feature
films.

Aside from being a great and knowledgeable guy, I thought
that his insights might be able to elevate some of the
principles and notions of art / design / etc. in Free Software
if they were formalized into a 'Question and Answer' format.
It will be certainly a single person vantage, but one that
comes with a good deal of experience and training behind
the offerings.

To this end, I am extending this invitation out to all of
the readers on the list (and I do mean _all_).  If you have
a question of workflow / approach / etc., please feel
free to offer it up.

Sincerely,
TJS
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[ubuntu-art] WORK WITH YOU

2007-12-22 Thread mohsene momenie
Hello

i love work whit you in your project in art design
i am desigener


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art Director

2007-12-22 Thread Ken Vermette
Well, here are some wordy and general questions!

- Would you say it's better to have a unique visual identity that people my
not necessarily like, but would recognize; or have an identity people love,
but is not unique and people would not recognize?
 - Are there exceptions?

 - If you had to go with one or the other, would strong visual presentation
at the cost of performance  speed be better than a weak presentation that
runs smoothly? Going with the weaker/smoother prsentation will also risk
looking outdated, quickly.
 - If you could do both, and accept that neither would be as polished, would
you try to make them as similar as possible, or as unique as possible?

 - If you design a new, more intuitive user interface: would it be worth
alienating users of the old interface to switch to the new one? If you come
up with regular innovations, should you add them whenever you get the
chance, or allow users to first adjust to previous designs?
 - If other groups copy your innovation, should you update yours to remain
unique?

 - Common designs  specifications are commonly used in programs that are
installed on your system. You have a specification that works much better
for you and your users needs, but does not match other specifications. Is it
better to design your work around the other specifications and risk
monotony, or go with your own design specification and risk
fragmentation/inconsistency?
 - Assuming other specifications are more polished because they've had time
to refine, how would that affect your decision?
 - Assuming other specifications aren't as good as what you could produce,
would you update their specifications or create your own?

 - People complain about one of the design decisions running through your
work - but it's part of your core visual identity. Assuming if you change
the design you completely lose your products years of built-up identity,
would the change be worth it?
 - Depending on whether or not people like/hate your brand (not necessarily
the design, but the underlying product), how would that affect your
decision?

 - Another group has a really great new feature/design in their product, and
you know your group needs something similar. Should you quickly copy the
exact feature as-is, or should you design something new with similar overall
functionality?
 - What if you already had that feature, but your existing version was
somehow crippled?

 - Another group has a product that dominates the market, and you know you
need to take their market share to grow. Should you try to make your product
similar (so migrating users are more familiar) and risk duplicating any of
the other groups mistakes?
 - What if people love/hate the competitive product?

Hope those are good questions.
--Ken Vermette

On Dec 22, 2007 12:43 PM, Álvaro Medina Ballester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I think you said that we can make some questions... here are mines (less
 to more important):

 1.- Andrew, do you think that Ubuntu can have a great design with
 brown/orange shades?

 2.- Do you feel that Tango icons are better than a more-realistic icons?

 3.- Should Ubuntu has monocrome icons in notification area?

 4.- This is quite off-topic, sorry. Some gnome developers are thinking
 about changing gnome's visual metaphor, what do you think about gnome's
 desktop metaphor? In wich ways should be changed in your opinion? And what
 do you like about gnome?


 Thank you very much Andrew.

 Cheers.

 2007/12/22, Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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  Greetings all.
 
  An art director / designer associate of mine has graciously
  accepted an invitation for an interview.  His name is
  Andrew Menzies ( http://imdb.com/name/nm0579980/ ).  He
  is formally trained in Architectural design and has extended
  his experience into art direction / design on feature
  films.
 
  Aside from being a great and knowledgeable guy, I thought
  that his insights might be able to elevate some of the
  principles and notions of art / design / etc. in Free Software
  if they were formalized into a 'Question and Answer' format.
  It will be certainly a single person vantage, but one that
  comes with a good deal of experience and training behind
  the offerings.
 
  To this end, I am extending this invitation out to all of
  the readers on the list (and I do mean _all_).  If you have
  a question of workflow / approach / etc., please feel
  free to offer it up.
 
  Sincerely,
  TJS
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Re: [ubuntu-art] my oppinions and a theme idea (mock up)

2007-12-22 Thread AA Boy
This theme needs to be more antialiased in my opinion. It feels rough around
the edges. It could be made into something really good though!

Smartboy

On Dec 23, 2007 12:43 AM, Max Tristen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi people :) i subscribed to the mailing list a week or 2 ago and have
 been following it with alot of interest. i like the direction that the
 Hardline theme is taking, it feels more finished and professional to me.

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Hardline

 tbh I'm not a great lover of the current version of the theme.. it has
 some nice features but they just lacking the finish off which they require.

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals

 its too heavy and it feels like an effort just to look at it.. i don't
 think the colours in the background the buttons works, they're would be
 better to have a main colour theme not to try mixing other colour themes
 with the browns of Ubuntu. i do however like this trend of mixing the top
 bar of windows with the menu bar, that looks very sexy, and that what i
 think we need to do to the Ubuntu theme, we have to make it sexy. its is one
 of the main factors which would persuade people to convert to ubuntu. oh
 another this I'm not too fond of is the amount of curves most of these mock
 ups seem to have. its a bit too much for me! REMEMBER! if you round all your
 corners then you loose your edge!

 I've made a mock up of what i think would look sexy as a default theme.

 i tried to make my own alternative hardy theme wiki page but it wasn't
 happening, so instead you can find mine at..

 http://www.unknowndomain.co.uk/uploader/files/6/hardyheron..jpg

 http://www.unknowndomain.co.uk/uploader/files/6/hardyheron2.jpg

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 i would love to hear you feed back people :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] my oppinions and a theme idea (mock up)

2007-12-22 Thread Ken Vermette
Apart from the jags (which I conceded is because it's a mockup) the theme
has several elements I really like. The blacks are heavy, and don't feel
very Ubuntuish - either switching to brown or another colour might make
things more mainstream. Probably my favorite idea is having dropdowns that
fade out; Although I don't know how that would work out in terms of
usability, it's an effect that I could dig in future themes.

Apart from this theme on a more general observation, many of the latest
mockups I've seen seems to be taking the route of completely semitransparent
windows - it seems to be a pretty popular concept, and it would be an
element unique to Ubuntu/Linux.

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On Dec 22, 2007 4:43 PM, Max Tristen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi people :) i subscribed to the mailing list a week or 2 ago and have
 been following it with alot of interest. i like the direction that the
 Hardline theme is taking, it feels more finished and professional to me.

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Hardline

 tbh I'm not a great lover of the current version of the theme.. it has
 some nice features but they just lacking the finish off which they require.

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals

 its too heavy and it feels like an effort just to look at it.. i don't
 think the colours in the background the buttons works, they're would be
 better to have a main colour theme not to try mixing other colour themes
 with the browns of Ubuntu. i do however like this trend of mixing the top
 bar of windows with the menu bar, that looks very sexy, and that what i
 think we need to do to the Ubuntu theme, we have to make it sexy. its is one
 of the main factors which would persuade people to convert to ubuntu. oh
 another this I'm not too fond of is the amount of curves most of these mock
 ups seem to have. its a bit too much for me! REMEMBER! if you round all your
 corners then you loose your edge!

 I've made a mock up of what i think would look sexy as a default theme.

 i tried to make my own alternative hardy theme wiki page but it wasn't
 happening, so instead you can find mine at..

 http://www.unknowndomain.co.uk/uploader/files/6/hardyheron..jpg

 http://www.unknowndomain.co.uk/uploader/files/6/hardyheron2.jpg

 you can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [ubuntu-art] WORK WITH YOU

2007-12-22 Thread Gabriel Hurley
Hi Moshen,

For information on getting involved, see
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/GetInvolved . If you want to
submit a theme, please read
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/SubmissionGuidelines .

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