Re: [ubuntu-art] Anyone Remember this idea?
..on or around Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 05:19:04PM -0800, Ken Vermette said: The idea of combining the themes has me curious. Although the theme we could see coming out of it might be less bold or concepty (is that even a word?), I could see something like that being a much more popular theme... I'm going to try a meshing of the two and see what we get. Expect results tomorrow or the day after. I'm also going to make this theme one possible with current technology - without the need for additional libraries. It will only take me a short time to make it, but if it proves more popular than Basic Ideals I'll put my other projects on hiatus to complete the new theme. great stuff Ken. looking forward to it.. julian On Dec 21, 2007 1:10 PM, Álvaro Medina Ballester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wallpaper is amazing, the shades are great, but the shutdown button is not usable and don't fits well with the theme. Mixing this colour scheme with Ken's ideas would be amazing. 2007/12/21, xl cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I tweaked the colors on my theme and slapped the brown wallpaper on it. I also recently discovered the inverted button effect with the clearlooks engine and like them quite a bit. Be sure to click on the full size view: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/SmoothMergedGradients#preview From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:58:11 -0600 Subject: [ubuntu-art] Anyone Remember this idea? I thought is was a good use of brown. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2620273#post2620273 _ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art _ i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Álvaro. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- -Ken Vermette -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- http://julianoliver.com http://selectparks.net emails containing HTML will not be read. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Anyone Remember this idea?
..on or around Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 03:40:31PM -0800, Troy James Sobotka said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 xl cheese wrote: I thought is was a good use of brown. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2620273#post2620273 Seriously folks, look at the details on this: 1) It is completely devoid of any concept or goal. 2) It resorts to the already vacuous and tripey 'swervy curleys'. 3) It is yet _again_ monochromatic and monotonous. yet it got 18 pages of praise by Ubuntu users, for the choice of colour palette especially. it's worth listening to that. it doesn't promise to have a roadmap, it's just a brief experiment posted on a whim by a forum member: a mockup. the AWN-like dock is completely unrealistic of course, as i said in a previous email. nonetheless the overall balance of colour is appealing to many people: reading the comments i get the feeling people are looking for less colour rather than more of it.. julian -- http://julianoliver.com http://selectparks.net emails containing HTML will not be read. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Bringing back old mockups ...
I have one (or a series, actually), too ;) http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/experimental-theme-mockup-5/ What I would change now: - get rid of the HD icons - move to colour scheme with more contrast in hue and brightness -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Art Director
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings all. An art director / designer associate of mine has graciously accepted an invitation for an interview. His name is Andrew Menzies ( http://imdb.com/name/nm0579980/ ). He is formally trained in Architectural design and has extended his experience into art direction / design on feature films. Aside from being a great and knowledgeable guy, I thought that his insights might be able to elevate some of the principles and notions of art / design / etc. in Free Software if they were formalized into a 'Question and Answer' format. It will be certainly a single person vantage, but one that comes with a good deal of experience and training behind the offerings. To this end, I am extending this invitation out to all of the readers on the list (and I do mean _all_). If you have a question of workflow / approach / etc., please feel free to offer it up. Sincerely, TJS -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHbWiWar0EasPEHjQRApn3AJsGWhG097BoP1pWS57YdbIMVrCZWACfSm7b vlKHGcyD7GCP1rq3JCi/Iok= =WNxh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] WORK WITH YOU
Hello i love work whit you in your project in art design i am desigener -- MOHSEN MOMENI 0 9 1 7 31 4 2 3 1 9 آســـمــان مـــال مــن است -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Art Director
Well, here are some wordy and general questions! - Would you say it's better to have a unique visual identity that people my not necessarily like, but would recognize; or have an identity people love, but is not unique and people would not recognize? - Are there exceptions? - If you had to go with one or the other, would strong visual presentation at the cost of performance speed be better than a weak presentation that runs smoothly? Going with the weaker/smoother prsentation will also risk looking outdated, quickly. - If you could do both, and accept that neither would be as polished, would you try to make them as similar as possible, or as unique as possible? - If you design a new, more intuitive user interface: would it be worth alienating users of the old interface to switch to the new one? If you come up with regular innovations, should you add them whenever you get the chance, or allow users to first adjust to previous designs? - If other groups copy your innovation, should you update yours to remain unique? - Common designs specifications are commonly used in programs that are installed on your system. You have a specification that works much better for you and your users needs, but does not match other specifications. Is it better to design your work around the other specifications and risk monotony, or go with your own design specification and risk fragmentation/inconsistency? - Assuming other specifications are more polished because they've had time to refine, how would that affect your decision? - Assuming other specifications aren't as good as what you could produce, would you update their specifications or create your own? - People complain about one of the design decisions running through your work - but it's part of your core visual identity. Assuming if you change the design you completely lose your products years of built-up identity, would the change be worth it? - Depending on whether or not people like/hate your brand (not necessarily the design, but the underlying product), how would that affect your decision? - Another group has a really great new feature/design in their product, and you know your group needs something similar. Should you quickly copy the exact feature as-is, or should you design something new with similar overall functionality? - What if you already had that feature, but your existing version was somehow crippled? - Another group has a product that dominates the market, and you know you need to take their market share to grow. Should you try to make your product similar (so migrating users are more familiar) and risk duplicating any of the other groups mistakes? - What if people love/hate the competitive product? Hope those are good questions. --Ken Vermette On Dec 22, 2007 12:43 PM, Álvaro Medina Ballester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you said that we can make some questions... here are mines (less to more important): 1.- Andrew, do you think that Ubuntu can have a great design with brown/orange shades? 2.- Do you feel that Tango icons are better than a more-realistic icons? 3.- Should Ubuntu has monocrome icons in notification area? 4.- This is quite off-topic, sorry. Some gnome developers are thinking about changing gnome's visual metaphor, what do you think about gnome's desktop metaphor? In wich ways should be changed in your opinion? And what do you like about gnome? Thank you very much Andrew. Cheers. 2007/12/22, Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings all. An art director / designer associate of mine has graciously accepted an invitation for an interview. His name is Andrew Menzies ( http://imdb.com/name/nm0579980/ ). He is formally trained in Architectural design and has extended his experience into art direction / design on feature films. Aside from being a great and knowledgeable guy, I thought that his insights might be able to elevate some of the principles and notions of art / design / etc. in Free Software if they were formalized into a 'Question and Answer' format. It will be certainly a single person vantage, but one that comes with a good deal of experience and training behind the offerings. To this end, I am extending this invitation out to all of the readers on the list (and I do mean _all_). If you have a question of workflow / approach / etc., please feel free to offer it up. Sincerely, TJS -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHbWiWar0EasPEHjQRApn3AJsGWhG097BoP1pWS57YdbIMVrCZWACfSm7b vlKHGcyD7GCP1rq3JCi/Iok= =WNxh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Álvaro. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- -Ken Vermette -- ubuntu-art mailing list
Re: [ubuntu-art] my oppinions and a theme idea (mock up)
This theme needs to be more antialiased in my opinion. It feels rough around the edges. It could be made into something really good though! Smartboy On Dec 23, 2007 12:43 AM, Max Tristen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi people :) i subscribed to the mailing list a week or 2 ago and have been following it with alot of interest. i like the direction that the Hardline theme is taking, it feels more finished and professional to me. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Hardline tbh I'm not a great lover of the current version of the theme.. it has some nice features but they just lacking the finish off which they require. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals its too heavy and it feels like an effort just to look at it.. i don't think the colours in the background the buttons works, they're would be better to have a main colour theme not to try mixing other colour themes with the browns of Ubuntu. i do however like this trend of mixing the top bar of windows with the menu bar, that looks very sexy, and that what i think we need to do to the Ubuntu theme, we have to make it sexy. its is one of the main factors which would persuade people to convert to ubuntu. oh another this I'm not too fond of is the amount of curves most of these mock ups seem to have. its a bit too much for me! REMEMBER! if you round all your corners then you loose your edge! I've made a mock up of what i think would look sexy as a default theme. i tried to make my own alternative hardy theme wiki page but it wasn't happening, so instead you can find mine at.. http://www.unknowndomain.co.uk/uploader/files/6/hardyheron..jpg http://www.unknowndomain.co.uk/uploader/files/6/hardyheron2.jpg you can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] i would love to hear you feed back people :) -- Everything in one place. All new Windows Live!http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] my oppinions and a theme idea (mock up)
Apart from the jags (which I conceded is because it's a mockup) the theme has several elements I really like. The blacks are heavy, and don't feel very Ubuntuish - either switching to brown or another colour might make things more mainstream. Probably my favorite idea is having dropdowns that fade out; Although I don't know how that would work out in terms of usability, it's an effect that I could dig in future themes. Apart from this theme on a more general observation, many of the latest mockups I've seen seems to be taking the route of completely semitransparent windows - it seems to be a pretty popular concept, and it would be an element unique to Ubuntu/Linux. -- Ken Vermette On Dec 22, 2007 4:43 PM, Max Tristen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi people :) i subscribed to the mailing list a week or 2 ago and have been following it with alot of interest. i like the direction that the Hardline theme is taking, it feels more finished and professional to me. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Hardline tbh I'm not a great lover of the current version of the theme.. it has some nice features but they just lacking the finish off which they require. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals its too heavy and it feels like an effort just to look at it.. i don't think the colours in the background the buttons works, they're would be better to have a main colour theme not to try mixing other colour themes with the browns of Ubuntu. i do however like this trend of mixing the top bar of windows with the menu bar, that looks very sexy, and that what i think we need to do to the Ubuntu theme, we have to make it sexy. its is one of the main factors which would persuade people to convert to ubuntu. oh another this I'm not too fond of is the amount of curves most of these mock ups seem to have. its a bit too much for me! REMEMBER! if you round all your corners then you loose your edge! I've made a mock up of what i think would look sexy as a default theme. i tried to make my own alternative hardy theme wiki page but it wasn't happening, so instead you can find mine at.. http://www.unknowndomain.co.uk/uploader/files/6/hardyheron..jpg http://www.unknowndomain.co.uk/uploader/files/6/hardyheron2.jpg you can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] i would love to hear you feed back people :) -- Everything in one place. All new Windows Live!http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- -Ken Vermette -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] WORK WITH YOU
Hi Moshen, For information on getting involved, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/GetInvolved . If you want to submit a theme, please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/SubmissionGuidelines . Gabriel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art