Re: [ubuntu-art] artwork for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming website

2007-12-29 Thread volvoguy
On Dec 28, 2007 5:16 PM, Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1 - I have long promoted the ditching of the Ubuntu title font
 in everything outside of the word Ubuntu.  Are you against changing
 the 'logo' to a font outside of the Ubuntu title font family?  It
 is a sub-optimal font for anything other than the Ubuntu name.

You'll probably have to take that one up with Canonical / Mark
Shuttleworth himself. They paid for that logo design and unless things
have changed a lot in my absence, logo modification isn't an option.
The Ubuntu title font also really isn't a general use, full featured
typeface. I think Andrew  completed the additional letters (besides
ubuntu) for Ubuntu-related uses (although the license allows other
uses) like adding other text to Ubuntu themed graphics that would fit
with the official logo. (Andrew, correct me if I'm wrong!)

I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble - anyone can create graphic
elements for the UI or otherwise that don't use the typographic logo
or do employ fonts other than the Ubuntu title font, but as far as
getting the actual distro logo changed - I don't think it's gonna
happen.

That's just my $.02 (+/- $.02). :-)
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[ubuntu-art] Just stirring, my desktop

2007-12-29 Thread Jussi Kekkonen
Hi!

Been following your discussion silently now some moments, and wanted to throw 
something new to see, if you may find something you might like from it and 
use it in your brainstorming...
yaddayadda, the actual screenshot of my desktop: 
http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/001.png

Have fun etc.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] artwork for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming website

2007-12-29 Thread Daniel Moore
BeOS? How come some of the window bars are on the left and some are  
on the right of the window? Can the bar things be dragged around?  
Nice starwars font by the way ;-)

On 29/12/2007, at 8:12 PM, volvoguy wrote:

 On Dec 28, 2007 5:16 PM, Troy James Sobotka  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1 - I have long promoted the ditching of the Ubuntu title font
 in everything outside of the word Ubuntu.  Are you against changing
 the 'logo' to a font outside of the Ubuntu title font family?  It
 is a sub-optimal font for anything other than the Ubuntu name.

 You'll probably have to take that one up with Canonical / Mark
 Shuttleworth himself. They paid for that logo design and unless things
 have changed a lot in my absence, logo modification isn't an option.
 The Ubuntu title font also really isn't a general use, full featured
 typeface. I think Andrew  completed the additional letters (besides
 ubuntu) for Ubuntu-related uses (although the license allows other
 uses) like adding other text to Ubuntu themed graphics that would fit
 with the official logo. (Andrew, correct me if I'm wrong!)

 I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble - anyone can create graphic
 elements for the UI or otherwise that don't use the typographic logo
 or do employ fonts other than the Ubuntu title font, but as far as
 getting the actual distro logo changed - I don't think it's gonna
 happen.

 That's just my $.02 (+/- $.02). :-)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] artwork for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming website

2007-12-29 Thread Jussi Kekkonen
Daniel Moore kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika lauantai, 29. joulukuu 2007 
1405.45):
 BeOS? How come some of the window bars are on the left and some are  
 on the right of the window? Can the bar things be dragged around?  
 Nice starwars font by the way ;-)
 

well it's KDE, and yes, they can be dragged, or set to move to empty space 
when overlapped. Font is and readable and make things fun :)
I don't know if I'm the only one but my eyes likes more dark background than 
light, my settings arent for everyone for sure.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] artwork for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming website

2007-12-29 Thread Nicolas Deschildre
On Dec 28, 2007 11:16 PM, Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1 - I have long promoted the ditching of the Ubuntu title font
 in everything outside of the word Ubuntu.  Are you against changing
 the 'logo' to a font outside of the Ubuntu title font family?  It
 is a sub-optimal font for anything other than the Ubuntu name.

As long as the font for the word Ubuntu remains the official one,
I've no problem with font changes.


 2 - I assume you are providing a quick mechanism to link in with
 Launchpad services?  Bugs / Blueprints / etc?  The copy / paste
 links are a very smart inclusion.

Yes, you can link an idea/bug to a LP bug number or/and a spec url
and/or a ubuntuforums.org thread. Then the links are displayed at the
right of the title, as icons.


 3 - Are you going to include categories?  I would imagine a big slush
 is sub-optimal.

Yes, when you submit a idea/bug, you must select a category. We just
have to fill the list with category like games, office,
multimedia, and so on...


  But unfortunately my artistic skills are not as good as my programming
  ones! We will need to work on the following artwork:
  - Two banners, one for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming part, and one for
  the Ubuntu most hated bug tracker.

 4 - Having created that little ISO testing icon image, I don't mind
 trying my hand at the banners, but you forgot to mention destination
 format needs.  Size?  Where will it be integrated in the samples
 you provided?

Thanks for your offer!
The test website has three modules, which act as three (almost)
independant websites. The links are located in the top bar (ISO
tracker, Hardy bugs, Hardy ideas). Right now, the same logo ISO
testing tracker is displayed for each module. We would like to display
one different logo per module, to clearly identify the different
modules.
The logo for the Hardy bugs module (top bar names are not definitive
at all) would display the text Ubuntu most hated bugs, and the one
for the Hardy ideas would display Ubuntu ideas. The text can be
discussed, if you see a better one. Please note that the bug and idea
module will be pointed by the vote-bug.ubuntu.com and
vote-idea.ubuntu.com subdomains.

Concerning the size, the height should remain the same, 64px, and
could be expanded a bit if necessary. For the width, you can go as far
as 690px (to be viewable in 800x600).


  - Some images links. An image link is a image template, in which
  we add some text with GD. Their purpose is to be published on external
  website and forums to promote an idea or a hated bug. See for example
  [3] and [4], with some concept images. What I had in mind ATM was one
  small image link, static, and one bigger, containing the title of the
  idea/bug and the number of votes. But size and number can be
  discussed.

 4 - Can you provide some details on the dynamic nature of the font? In
 particular how big is a worst case scenario in terms of letters?  What
 other information is going to be in there in terms of letters or
 numbers?  I assume you are using Imagemagick as a back end, and as
 such, are there limitations in the font selection?

We are currently using GD, and according to [1], any Freetype 1 and 2
font can be used. The font and size we choose for the dynamic text
parts is up to you!
The worst case scenario for a idea/bug title is 80 letters. The rest
of available information (votes, bug/idea number,..) will have a
close-to-static size. If necessary we can increase the font size as
the title lenght decrease, and I can handle double-line title.

[1] http://fr.php.net/gd


 5 - Is this to be supplied via a Canonical server or a third party
 server location?

A Canonical one.


 Once again, this is a wonderful idea...
 TJS

Thanks, and thanks for your help! We hope it will have the success we expect.

Nicolas



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Just stirring, my desktop

2007-12-29 Thread Can K.
Way too dark from my point of view. Looks...interesting...but doesn't seem
to have any user- or noob-friendlyness.
Personally, I don't like it.


2007/12/29, Jussi Kekkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi!

 Been following your discussion silently now some moments, and wanted to
 throw something new to see, if you may find something you might like from
 it and use it in your brainstorming...
 yaddayadda, the actual screenshot of my desktop:
 http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/001.png

 Have fun etc.

 Tm_T
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Re: [ubuntu-art] artwork for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming website

2007-12-29 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 22:32 +0100, Nicolas Deschildre wrote:

 The QA team and I have been developing the future Ubuntu idea
 brainstorming website, codenamed tokamak (cf blueprint [1]). Another
 separate module will also track the most hated bug by allowing to vote
 for them. The website is beginning to mature, and we have a test
 server here [2].

 So I would be very glad and thankful if someone could help me with that!

Just a collection of sketches for a start:
http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/brainstorm_bugs_sketches_01_si.png

I'd be fine with others taking any of the ideas to run with it.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] artwork for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming website

2007-12-29 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Nicolas Deschildre wrote:
 - Two banners, one for the Ubuntu idea brainstorming part, and one for
 the Ubuntu most hated bug tracker.

Here is a really quick knock off for the 'yet-to-be-named'
idea site.

Sincerely,
TJS
inline: idea-arena.png

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Just stirring, my desktop

2007-12-29 Thread Jussi Kekkonen
Can K. kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika lauantai, 29. joulukuu 2007 1749.11):
 Way too dark from my point of view. Looks...interesting...but doesn't seem
 to have any user- or noob-friendlyness.
 Personally, I don't like it.

Heh, I fully agree with you from others point of view, but as I said, someone 
might find something as spark, not copying but inspiring after seeing something 
new and different perhaps.
My desktop is meant to be good for me and me only :)
Anyway, appreciate your honest resonse.

More fat and sugar to make my engine running -
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